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post #34021 of 34038 Old 09-24-2016, 05:05 PM
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As an owner of the SE series bookshelf and center
Channel speakers I can vouch that they were definitely
Superior to the Monitor line. I noticed an immediate improvement.
Replaced Mini-monitor(v5) and cc-190(v6).
Put the Above speakers up for sale on Craigslist the next morning.
I own the SE center and the Studio 10 V5, and I temporally set up a 3.0 system with my Anthem MRX 300 to hear how well the SE Center can keep up with the Studios. To my surprise they matched perfectly, but not only that, the sound quality from the SE Center was way too close, almost identical if not exactly to the Studios. I honestly couldn't hear any real world gap in terms of sound quality between the SE Center and the Studio 10 V5 after demoing several movies.

Was the SE ever intended to sound inferior to the Studio Series in a noticeable gap?
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Has anyone heard the new Persona speakers yet? The Black Personas look like they have black woofers. How does Paradigm make them without affecting sound quality.
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Has anyone heard the new Persona speakers yet? The Black Personas look like they have black woofers. How does Paradigm make them without affecting sound quality.
Anodizing.
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I own the SE center and the Studio 10 V5, and I temporally set up a 3.0 system with my Anthem MRX 300 to hear how well the SE Center can keep up with the Studios. To my surprise they matched perfectly, but not only that, the sound quality from the SE Center was way too close, almost identical if not exactly to the Studios. I honestly couldn't hear any real world gap in terms of sound quality between the SE Center and the Studio 10 V5 after demoing several movies.

Was the SE ever intended to sound inferior to the Studio Series in a noticeable gap?
I also did something similar. Originally used the SE bookshelves
And the SE center in a 3.1 bedroom set up. I had a pair of
Studio 40's (v4) and decided to go 5.1 in the bedroom. My
Experience with the front soundstage was identical to yours.

My opinion of the SE series is very high. I feel that they offered
An outstanding value and performance for the price. When they
Were discontinued they became an even bigger value.
There are still floor standing models (black only) and the SE
Center on eBay. The price for the floors is $700 plus shipping.
IMHO it would be very hard to beat that value.
(I haven't even heard the floorstanders, I base my opinion
On the center and bookshelf speakers I own)

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Has anyone heard the new Persona speakers yet? The Black Personas look like they have black woofers. How does Paradigm make them without affecting sound quality.
Anodizing.
The Black Persona speakers should sound the same as the other colors, right? I prefer the look of the black speakers but would get another color if it affected sound quality.
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Has anyone heard the new Persona speakers yet? The Black Personas look like they have black woofers. How does Paradigm make them without affecting sound quality.
Anodizing.
I guess Paradigm already successfully applied this black anodizing with the Tribute midrange and the Inspiration mid/woofer.
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Anodizing adds micrograms, if anything. It may not even be measurable. It's more a chemical/electrolytic reaction than a deposit of material. I can't imagine it would affect sound in any way, or you would see KEF offering blue, black, copper and clear anodize of the Uni-Q driver on their LS50 and Reference "Foundation Edition" and other speakers.

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I also did something similar. Originally used the SE bookshelves
And the SE center in a 3.1 bedroom set up. I had a pair of
Studio 40's (v4) and decided to go 5.1 in the bedroom. My
Experience with the front soundstage was identical to yours.

My opinion of the SE series is very high. I feel that they offered
An outstanding value and performance for the price. When they
Were discontinued they became an even bigger value.
There are still floor standing models (black only) and the SE
Center on eBay. The price for the floors is $700 plus shipping.
IMHO it would be very hard to beat that value.
(I haven't even heard the floorstanders, I base my opinion
On the center and bookshelf speakers I own)
If they had the Rosenut finish for the towers, I would have bought them long ago. The black finish wouldn't go with the decor in my living room. The SE center is amazing, and just destroys almost anything in the $1000 range.

It's crazy that you can get the Signatures on ebay now. I wonder if that Signature C1 is any good? I so wish I had the money to buy the Sig's S6.
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OK paradigm gents. Fixing to pick up a pair of mini monitor 1v7 for about 500 bucks and the matching center for 320. I will be using this setup only for cinema no music. Any reason i shouldn't pull the trigger? I was leaning hard towards Ascend bookshelf but I can't demo them. I know everybody here is a little bias.
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I saw a Craigslist ad in my town for the Studio 60 v5 towers. He's asking $475 for the pair. Thoughts?

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I saw a Craigslist ad in my town for the Studio 60 v5 towers. He's asking $475 for the pair. Thoughts?


That seems like a steal to me if they're in good condition.
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I saw a Craigslist ad in my town for the Studio 60 v5 towers. He's asking $475 for the pair. Thoughts?
I agree with Gates. As long as they're functioning properly and aren't too banged up, that's a great price.

Why is there NO perfect equipment, only compromises?
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Yeah, the guy seems alright, but he has them in storage and there's no way I can test the speakers. That's what worries me.

Pictures should they are in good shape, but I would like to inspect the drivers.

But for the price... oh my.

Thanks for the input, guys.

EDIT: If I do get the v5s, they would replace my FL/FR (Studio 60s v4) and I'd move those to surround duties.

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pair of Monitors 9's v2 for 300 CAN... is this a good deal? worth picking up?
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pair of Monitors 9's v2 for 300 CAN... is this a good deal? worth picking up?
As those with more experience than I have said above, all things being as advertised it sounds like a pretty good deal, but could be better as those might be more than 15-years old. I have purchased on the 2ndry market Original Monitor 7s and v2s and they sounded good at about the same age and price/pair. Appearances have been varied, and I was lucky that that was the only issue I have had.

I am looking around again to either upgrade my family room 3.1 Atom set up, or completely revamp my main theater (4x Monitor 7s) with better. I still have a fondness for Paradigm, but looking at new or trade I'll be shopping for different brands.

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As those with more experience than I have said above, all things being as advertised it sounds like a pretty good deal, but could be better as those might be more than 15-years old. I have purchased on the 2ndry market Original Monitor 7s and v2s and they sounded good at about the same age and price/pair. Appearances have been varied, and I was lucky that that was the only issue I have had.

I am looking around again to either upgrade my family room 3.1 Atom set up, or completely revamp my main theater (4x Monitor 7s) with better. I still have a fondness for Paradigm, but looking at new or trade I'll be shopping for different brands.

Mike
I agree... I could not afford new paradigms... but I'm always keeping my eyes open for used. market is small around here though.
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pair of Monitors 9's v2 for 300 CAN... is this a good deal? worth picking up?
$250-$300 for a pair in minty-mint condition is a good deal, IMO.
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Picked up the Studio 60s v5 yesterday for $460/pair. Cosmetically, I'd rate them a somewhat generous 7/10. Some scuffs, scratches, one hole in the grill, missing pegs and a bit dusty. That worried me. However, the guy showed up with his wife, was understanding if I didn't want the speakers based on their condition but assured me they are working 100%. I snagged them.

Took them home, cleaned them up a bit and put them as my FL/FR. Moved my Studio 60s v4 to surround duty. The older JBLs will be front heights.

Played some music and watched a few scenes from Star Trek (2009). Very pleased with the change. The v5s seem to have a more open soundstage and actually more sensitivity. Very pleased. Won't comment on bass because placement isn't optimal yet and I didn't have time to recalibrate my system.

Over the weekend I'll rerun Audyssey with the new set up but, oh boy, does it pay off to go the used speaker route. For my whole setup, I believe I paid around 20% of MSRP.
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