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I don't know. I was watching How to Train Your Dragon in 3D when I noticed it for the first time. I've had the Esprit BP towers and CC450 for 21 years and they still sound nice. Only had the Sigs for 3 years.
Would this be something that is covered under warranty? Even if not, the sigs have a 5 year warranty and Paradigm just recently stopped selling them. Maybe what 2 years ago is that? What were they planning on doing for real warranty claims within the 5 year warranty? Telling customers that they can not repair the warrantied speakers?

I got mine sometime in 2014 and I am still under warranty. But I barely use my stuff.
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What were they planning on doing for real warranty claims within the 5 year warranty? Telling customers that they can not repair the warrantied speakers?
Nope, they're obligated to repair them under the warranty period in spite of being discontinued.

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What were they planning on doing for real warranty claims within the 5 year warranty? Telling customers that they can not repair the warrantied speakers?
Likely they have a parts stashed to cover warranty repairs, they just won't sell them.

Other than that, upgraded drivers are an option.

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I'm a beginner so these questions my be simple for the more experienced people.

I'm configuring a 5.1 setup in a new home with in-wall LCR. I have to mount the C above the TV. The ceilings are 9ft. The floor is hardwood and the seating area is 11ft from the wall. The viewing area is one corner of an open concept space. The C will be 6.5ft above the floor. This is roughly 15deg above the listener.

The Paradigm H55-LCR has been suggested for L/C/R and the H55-R for the rear surrounds.

I'm concerned that because the center H55-LCR can't be aimed at the listener the center channel performance will be poor.

I have little experience with this issues so I have not way to judge this. The only aimable speaker I could find is the SpeakerCraft AIM series but I van't find any reviews of them. Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated. Please and thanks!
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Requesting Recommendation on Center

Currently have a 2-Channel setup, Studio 60v5. Looking to add a center, options that fit into my space seem to be.
  1. Used CC-490.
  2. Used CC-590.
  3. New 45C.
Thanks in advanced for your input and recommendations.
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Would this be something that is covered under warranty? Even if not, the sigs have a 5 year warranty and Paradigm just recently stopped selling them. Maybe what 2 years ago is that? What were they planning on doing for real warranty claims within the 5 year warranty? Telling customers that they can not repair the warrantied speakers?
My contact at Paradigm says they are being repaired under warranty.

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Nope, they're obligated to repair them under the warranty period in spite of being discontinued.
Seems that way

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Likely they have a parts stash to cover warranty repairs, they just won't sell them.

Other than that, upgraded drivers are an option.
My hope was that they have spare drivers, but that's not what they're saying. They will have to "re-cone" the speaker. I seriously hope that works. When you say "upgraded" drivers, do you mean new speakers (they didn't mention anything about upgraded drivers)? Geez I hope it doesn't come to that. For me, these speakers were very expensive.
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Currently have a 2-Channel setup, Studio 60v5. Looking to add a center, options that fit into my space seem to be.
  1. Used CC-490.
  2. Used CC-590.
  3. New 45C.
Thanks in advanced for your input and recommendations.
The Prestige are a good step up from the studios, but if you don't plan on upgrading the others to prestige as well, I'd go used CC-590 or 490. Another Studio 60V5 as center would be best, but most people can't or won't make it work.
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They will have to "re-cone" the speaker. I seriously hope that works. When you say "upgraded" drivers, do you mean new speakers (they didn't mention anything about upgraded drivers)?
Usually recone would include new surrounds and voice coils. Basically everything but the frame and magnet.

If they have everything except the frame and magnet then that's effectively a spare driver, as long as the frame and magnet are intact. Wouldn't help with something like fire melting the frame, or other physical damage to those few parts.

By upgraded driver​ I mean newer design of the same size. It'd fit in your existing cabinet.

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Usually recone would include new surrounds and voice coils. Basically everything but the frame and magnet.

If they have everything except the frame and magnet then that's effectively a spare driver, as long as the frame and magnet are intact. Wouldn't help with something like fire melting the frame, or other physical damage to those few parts.

By upgraded driver​ I mean newer design of the same size. It'd fit in your existing cabinet.
Thanks for the information.

It's strange because I would watch many movies or surround discs that would sound fine, and then one scene of a movie would create a horrible upper end sound (like T2 Trainspotting, club scene where everyone is singing Queen's Radio Ga Ga).

Hopefully they'll take care of it, 4-6 weeks though. UGH.
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Currently have a 2-Channel setup, Studio 60v5. Looking to add a center, options that fit into my space seem to be.
  1. Used CC-490.
  2. Used CC-590.
  3. New 45C.
Thanks in advanced for your input and recommendations.
I have a 590 with my 60's and am pleased. If I had a 690, I'd be ecstatic.
You mention space, so I'm thinking the 55C isn't an option.
The 45 and 590/490 have aluminum in common, so should match fairly well. Not enough difference that my ears would be able to tell anyway.

Let us know what you decide and good luck!
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The Prestige are a good step up from the studios, but if you don't plan on upgrading the others to prestige as well, I'd go used CC-590 or 490. Another Studio 60V5 as center would be best, but most people can't or won't make it work.
Thanks. Upgrading from the 60's are not in my immediate future. Used 590 v4 or v5 seem hard to come by, I would prefer that over the 490. That's why I asked prestige also.

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I have a 590 with my 60's and am pleased. If I had a 690, I'd be ecstatic.
You mention space, so I'm thinking the 55C isn't an option.
The 45 and 590/490 have aluminum in common, so should match fairly well. Not enough difference that my ears would be able to tell anyway.

Let us know what you decide and good luck!
I'm going to remeasure for the 55c (not at home this weekend) If I remember it is around 30" in width. Just short for the 55c. But when I measured I was measuring for the 690, which are not an option with my space.
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I have not heard the new Prestige line, but personally I'm not sure they are necessarily better than the Studios. Newer doesn't always mean better. I do love the finish of the Prestige, but I love the contoured cabinets of the Studios. My immediate concern of the Prestige is that the top of the line 95F only has a 2.5-way crossover and not a full blown 3-way crossover of the Studios. I hope as Paradigm revises the Prestige line they address the plain boxy cabinets and crossovers.
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I have not heard the new Prestige line, but personally I'm not sure they are necessarily better than the Studios. Newer doesn't always mean better. I do love the finish of the Prestige, but I love the contoured cabinets of the Studios. My immediate concern of the Prestige is that the top of the line 95F only has a 2.5-way crossover and not a full blown 3-way crossover of the Studios. I hope as Paradigm revises the Prestige line they address the plain boxy cabinets and crossovers.
The Prestige 15B bookshelf speakers are a little less bright, clearer, have better detail and better bass than the old Studio 10V5's. As for how the larger tower models compare to each other, I don't know.
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I have not heard the new Prestige line, but personally I'm not sure they are necessarily better than the Studios. Newer doesn't always mean better. I do love the finish of the Prestige, but I love the contoured cabinets of the Studios. My immediate concern of the Prestige is that the top of the line 95F only has a 2.5-way crossover and not a full blown 3-way crossover of the Studios. I hope as Paradigm revises the Prestige line they address the plain boxy cabinets and crossovers.
I seriously would not worry about 2-way, 2.5-way, 3-way, etc. - there are merits to all of the designs. All of the towers in the line are 2.5-way. Why the concern?

The Prestige line is all of the above.

And of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I love the boxy cabinets!
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