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Does anyone know how much of a difference in sound between the studio 20 and the signature s2. Was thinking for a stereo application in a smaller room. Just wanted to know whether it's worth it or not and how much of a difference and what the benefits of buying a s2 for this purpose. Thanks
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If you're looking for pure SPL power, take a look at the CraigSUBs from CHT:

http://www.chasehometheater.com/inde...id=53&TreeId=2

A pair of VS-18.1 subs put out an astonishing amount of power for a fraction of the cost of a Paradigm sub, even blow away the best offerings from SVS (for the money).

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...-2-review.html

I'm looking for both sound quality as well as SPL. I want clean clear tight punchy musical bass, but also want a sub capable of high SPL (more then what my PW 2200 can do at the least). But high SPL without the sound quality is useless to me. I don't want one without the other. If it sounds good, I want to crank it. If it sounds like sloppy, boomy slop, then I'd want to turn it off lmao. High SPL and the sound I'm looking for is the recipe for expensive subs. I'm sure the SUB 25 is loud enough, and I'm sure it sounds good enough, but if there's something that performs equally for less money, I'm 100% down. I want to look more into that SubM HP but the site is down. I'm looking for a spec sheet to learn more about it. I looked at the link someone provided here and I couldn't find what I was looking for. Just want some pics, spec sheet, then some reviews/tests and comparisons.
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Kermit, I know you asked Venom, but I'm bored so I'll offer my opinion, which is is those are both excellent value subs, I'd personally lean to the SVS on spec. For a couple of hundred more you'd get a bit better accuracy and extension going to a Rythmik, which is where I'd personally go if I were buying today. And yes you'll get an appreciable benefit with any of them.

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Thanks for that Venomous.

Now that I've upgraded my speakers to digms (took me a week to figure out what this word referred to) I'm thinking of upgrading the subwoofer. And since that's the current hot topic, I'll jump right in.

I have an 8 year old Def Tech ProSub 100 TL (250 watts RMS, 10" driver). I always thought it was decent but now that I'm listening critically I can tell its boomy. I'd like more punch and tight bass. In line with the budget I'm considering Emotive X-Ref 12 or SVS SB12-NSD. Movies are first priority, with music a new close second.

Would those subs sound like a night and day difference compared to what I have now? I'm hoping the answer is yes. My room is 16 x 12, and opens into a kitchen about the same size.

I can go up a little in price, but if the sound difference with either of these moderately priced subs would be significant to what i have now then I think I'd be happy. My current sub is the only one I've ever had so I'm really a novice regarding this. I know these subs aren't in the same league as whet you've been discussing, but maybe they'd blow the doors off of what I have now.

I had the Emotive's and while great for most music, they lack something. Get a couple of Rythmic sealed subs. They are tight, clear, detailed and fill in the S8 (100's) very well.
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Tough to beat 14hz extension with ruler flat FR;

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F15HP_specs.html

Want more SPL for movies? Get two.. still cheaper than one Sub25.

Nowhere near as pretty though.

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Thanks for that Venomous.

Now that I've upgraded my speakers to digms (took me a week to figure out what this word referred to) I'm thinking of upgrading the subwoofer. And since that's the current hot topic, I'll jump right in.

I have an 8 year old Def Tech ProSub 100 TL (250 watts RMS, 10" driver). I always thought it was decent but now that I'm listening critically I can tell its boomy. I'd like more punch and tight bass. In line with the budget I'm considering Emotive X-Ref 12 or SVS SB12-NSD. Movies are first priority, with music a new close second.

Would those subs sound like a night and day difference compared to what I have now? I'm hoping the answer is yes. My room is 16 x 12, and opens into a kitchen about the same size.

I can go up a little in price, but if the sound difference with either of these moderately priced subs would be significant to what i have now then I think I'd be happy. My current sub is the only one I've ever had so I'm really a novice regarding this. I know these subs aren't in the same league as whet you've been discussing, but maybe they'd blow the doors off of what I have now.

If buying today with the 50/50 theater/music duty, I would definitely go the route of rythmik. I had a budget and my hsu's were the perfect fit for what I was looking for. If there was one item I regret buying, it's my Yamaha. The Denon 4311 would of been a better fit for me. At least I ended up with paradigms and that was especially important having the best speakers for my listening taste.
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Does anyone know how much of a difference in sound between the studio 20 and the signature s2. Was thinking for a stereo application in a smaller room. Just wanted to know whether it's worth it or not and how much of a difference and what the benefits of buying a s2 for this purpose. Thanks

Comes down to what type of music you listen to and listening to the beryllium tweeters sing. It's quite noticeable, but your wallet makes the end decision. If you don't plan on using a sub, I would lean toward the S2s.
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Kermit, I know you asked Venom, but I'm bored so I'll offer my opinion, which is is those are both excellent value subs, I'd personally lean to the SVS on spec. For a couple of hundred more you'd get a bit better accuracy and extension going to a Rythmik, which is where I'd personally go if I were buying today. And yes you'll get an appreciable benefit with any of them.

I totally agree here. Rythmiks have a great reputation and offer stellar performance. I wouldn't hesitate buying a pair of them down the road.
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Does anyone know how much of a difference in sound between the studio 20 and the signature s2. Was thinking for a stereo application in a smaller room. Just wanted to know whether it's worth it or not and how much of a difference and what the benefits of buying a s2 for this purpose. Thanks

In most cases I'd say it depends, but I'm of the opinion that what the Sigs offer with the Be tweeters on their own is worth the price difference.
In small room/nearfield listening where you position your speakers to sound headphone-like, the extra "air" and articulation of the Be tweeters might be even more desirable, depending on the quality of your supporting gear of course. (So I guess there is a "depends" after all lol! )
The newest 20's would be no slouch and are now closer to what the Sig v.1's used to be... so pretty damn good.
Even the difference between the Sig v.1's and Sig v.2/3's in the top end is a worthy step up IMO.

Oh, and of course you can get those tweets at a lower price point in the S1's. But I don't know what you'd give up in extension and imaging.. in your application it might not be much.


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Thank guys for the advice, its just something I been thinking about. I'm afraid to go into the store and listen to the s2's as I already have quite a few of the studio's. Right now I have the 100's, 60's, 2 sets of 20's, 1 set of 10's and 1 set of surrounds a 690 and 2 sub 12's all v5 in rosenut. Don't want it to snowball into me switching completely to the sig's as I could not afford that. Just thought a set of s2's might be nice for a stereo setup. Anyway I might go have a listen but wanted to thank you guys for your advice as I have not heard the sig's. Thanks!!
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You sound like you're not far from being the next star of "Hoarders"... the speaker episode... lol!

Stay away from the store or it'll be "Intervention" next...

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Thank guys for the advice, its just something I been thinking about. I'm afraid to go into the store and listen to the s2's as I already have quite a few of the studio's. Right now I have the 100's, 60's, 2 sets of 20's, 1 set of 10's and 1 set of surrounds a 690 and 2 sub 12's all v5 in rosenut. Don't want it to snowball into me switching completely to the sig's as I could not afford that. Just thought a set of s2's might be nice for a stereo setup. Anyway I might go have a listen but wanted to thank you guys for your advice as I have not heard the sig's. Thanks!!

I thought I just wanted a new front 3.......now 4 adp390s later, and I have a brand new 7.1 setup. It's a slippery slope. You will want the better speakers in the system you listen to the most. If that the surround setup, don't listen until you can afford them all (less resale of your v5 studios).
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In most cases I'd say it depends, but I'm of the opinion that what the Sigs offer with the Be tweeters on their own is worth the price difference.
In small room/nearfield listening where you position your speakers to sound headphone-like, the extra "air" and articulation of the Be tweeters might be even more desirable, depending on the quality of your supporting gear of course. (So I guess there is a "depends" after all lol! )
The newest 20's would be no slouch and are now closer to what the Sig v.1's used to be... so pretty damn good.
Even the difference between the Sig v.1's and Sig v.2/3's in the top end is a worthy step up IMO.

Oh, and of course you can get those tweets at a lower price point in the S1's. But I don't know what you'd give up in extension and imaging.. in your application it might not be much.


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Compared my s20s to s10s and there's not a whole lot of difference. So S1s may just serve their purpose for his 2.0 setup.
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As far as the Arcam goes, I love it, combined with the 60s I hear so much detail and so much soundstage that I can just sit back and get lost in the music, beauty.


Yes, don't you love it! Recently I haven't had time, or the house to myself long enough to enjoy this. The last time I did, I had all the lights out so it was pitch black, and listened to the Pink Floyd album "The Wall," and got completely sucked in. I felt like I was at a demonic broadway play towards the end. Good sound and good music is a portal where you can go on a journey to other worlds. I know, I sound corny as hell lmao.

That's why I want the cleanest, clearest sound possible, and that's why I was willing to dish out the 4 grand for the SUB 25. I didn't know/think a cheaper sub could perform the same.
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I'm looking for both sound quality as well as SPL. I want clean clear tight punchy musical bass, but also want a sub capable of high SPL (more then what my PW 2200 can do at the least). But high SPL without the sound quality is useless to me. I don't want one without the other. If it sounds good, I want to crank it. If it sounds like sloppy, boomy slop, then I'd want to turn it off lmao. High SPL and the sound I'm looking for is the recipe for expensive subs. I'm sure the SUB 25 is loud enough, and I'm sure it sounds good enough, but if there's something that performs equally for less money, I'm 100% down. I want to look more into that SubM HP but the site is down. I'm looking for a spec sheet to learn more about it. I looked at the link someone provided here and I couldn't find what I was looking for. Just want some pics, spec sheet, then some reviews/tests and comparisons.

Check the review I linked. It should answer any questions you might have about the CraigSUBs.

Plenty musical. Most subs can be both musical AND powerful, but only if you feed them an obscene amount of power. Which is what the amp for the CraigSUBs does.

Not trying to talk you out of Paradigm (especially in this thread), but you did seem to be entertaining alternatives...
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Thanks for that Venomous.

Now that I've upgraded my speakers to digms (took me a week to figure out what this word referred to) I'm thinking of upgrading the subwoofer. And since that's the current hot topic, I'll jump right in.

I have an 8 year old Def Tech ProSub 100 TL (250 watts RMS, 10" driver). I always thought it was decent but now that I'm listening critically I can tell its boomy. I'd like more punch and tight bass. In line with the budget I'm considering Emotive X-Ref 12 or SVS SB12-NSD. Movies are first priority, with music a new close second.

Would those subs sound like a night and day difference compared to what I have now? I'm hoping the answer is yes. My room is 16 x 12, and opens into a kitchen about the same size.

I can go up a little in price, but if the sound difference with either of these moderately priced subs would be significant to what i have now then I think I'd be happy. My current sub is the only one I've ever had so I'm really a novice regarding this. I know these subs aren't in the same league as whet you've been discussing, but maybe they'd blow the doors off of what I have now.

Yes. Night and day. And I'd pass on the Emo... definitely go with the SVS PB12-NSD, between those two.
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Thank you gents for the confirmation that the difference will be especially noticeable, and for the heads-up on the Rythmiks. I had never hear of them and now they are at the top of my short list, with only the SVS still remaining.

Armed with this new knowledge I plunged once more unto the breach, and mentioned to the wife that the only thing lacking in our system was a top-shelf subwoofer. I explained how movies and music would be significantly enhanced with the addition of a Paradigm Sub-25. When she balked at the price I told her that fortunately Rythmics makes a sub at a fraction of the cost that offers much of the performance.

Tactics, tactics, tactics.

The negotiations have begun. I fear the final cost will be more than just the price of a subwoofer.
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Check the review I linked. It should answer any questions you might have about the CraigSUBs.

Plenty musical. Most subs can be both musical AND powerful, but only if you feed them an obscene amount of power. Which is what the amp for the CraigSUBs does.

Not trying to talk you out of Paradigm (especially in this thread), but you did seem to be entertaining alternatives...

Just read everything through fully. I like the idea of passive. Would I be able to power these puppies with a crown XTi 4000? lol

I wish there was a way to audition/hear one of these subs before making a purchase. I'm interested in the SubM HP also, but you can't even order them since the website is down. If I like the way the SubM HP's sound, and they are half the price of the SUB 25, I'll take 2 lol. I'm sure SPL wouldn't be a problem with 2 of those. Does anybody know what the in room extension is on the SubM HP? I can't wait for seaton's website to be back up so I can look at their spec sheet
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Just read everything through fully. I like the idea of passive. Would I be able to power these puppies with a crown XTi 4000? lol

I wish there was a way to audition/hear one of these subs before making a purchase. I'm interested in the SubM HP also, but you can't even order them since the website is down. If I like the way the SubM HP's sound, and they are half the price of the SUB 25, I'll take 2 lol. I'm sure SPL wouldn't be a problem with 2 of those. Does anybody know what the in room extension is on the SubM HP? I can't wait for seaton's website to be back up so I can look at their spec sheet

Go to the forum I linked yesterday. All the info is there, as well as contact info for the owner/designer. He can point you in the direction of a demo, send you data sheets for the 2012 model, and sell you an item.

I look forward to hearing everyone considering new subs results. All this talk is making me curious...... Epik Empire-. Not quite as sexy lacking big motors, and a big amp, but I like the idea of unit, surface area, and fast response. Not to mention it can get down below 15hz. Oh and it's only $800. Current sub, meet craigslist ; )
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Go to the forum I linked yesterday. All the info is there, as well as contact info for the owner/designer. He can point you in the direction of a demo, send you data sheets for the 2012 model, and sell you an item.

I look forward to hearing everyone considering new subs results. All this talk is making me curious...... Epik Empire-. Not quite as sexy lacking big motors, and a big amp, but I like the idea of unit, surface area, and fast response. Not to mention it can get down below 15hz. Oh and it's only $800. Current sub, meet craigslist ; )

Just spent about an hour reading the seaton forums. I didn't find too much spec wise on the SubM HP except is has a 2400 watt amplifier, but I did read a bunch on a mythical Submersive XL which is supposed to have dual 18" drivers in a sealed enclosure and a 6000 watt amp. I don't think it exists yet, but the forum topic started talking about it in 2007. Now in 2012, it still doesn't exist. I wonder if this colossal behemoth will ever be created lol
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I've been looking around for a smallish pair of bookshelf speakers for a bedroom system.

Originally considering something like the Energy RC-Mini or the Paradigm Micro Monitor.

But, I think I have enough space to step up to the Paradigm Atom, and these would likely be more versatile for me in the long run.


So, I might be able to pick up a nice pair of used V4 Atoms; or my local dealer has a few pairs of V6s left which they are clearing out.

What sonic difference would there be between the 2 versions, if any?

My guess is that the V6s would likely cost me double (or slightly more) what I can get the used V4s for. Obviously the V6s would have full warranty - but sonically, is the extra price worth it?

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When she balked at the price I told her that fortunately Rythmics makes a sub at a fraction of the cost that offers much of the performance.

Tactics, tactics, tactics.

The negotiations have begun. I fear the final cost will be more than just the price of a subwoofer.

See... who say's men only think with one thing!

This is WAF correction at it's finest lol!

One thing for sure, there aren't many women that like BIG subs, so there's a serious market for small & powerful subs, and no doubt for subs that look as good as the Sub25.

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Okay, now I've been doing a whole bunch of reading on the "Terraform XL." Are these things for sale yet? Does anybody have them or have heard them? I'm very curious about them but everything I've been reading is indicative that they don't exist yet.
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Just build an IB sub and be done with it!

http://ibsubwoofers.proboards.com/index.cgi

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Just unboxed the Monitor 11 V6 (Wenge). They sound incredible (especially for $800 with warranty); however, the cabinet finish leaves something to be desired. The wenge looks like early 90's particle board covered in wallpaper quality waynes coating. My outgoing Performance series Phantom's have a higher quality finish (black ash). Oh well, I didn't buy them for looking at, bought them to listen to, and what an incredible improvement. They sound incredible in my large room. I deactivated the remaining speakers, and will run 2.0/2.1 until the matching speakers arrive on Monday/Tuesday.

Here's a couple pics. Will take better care (and clean up) when the rest of the speakers arrive.


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They are lookin' good to me lol. The v6's are the monitors with the really high efficiency right?


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They don't seem to look bad at all.myour wood floors took me back to my last house, which btw, i don't miss th acoustic nightmare! Lol
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That sucks that I have no stores near me that sell Paradigm speakers. I hear that they are the be all end all brand too. I need to find a suitable replacement then. What would you guys suggest? PSB? B&W?
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That sucks that I have no stores near me that sell Paradigm speakers. I hear that they are the be all end all brand too. I need to find a suitable replacement then. What would you guys suggest? PSB? B&W?

Really, no Paradigm stores in New Jersey? Seems odd.
PSB would be my second choice, and might be as good or better value in the lower price points. Similar R&D resources as Paradigm and same trickle down technology approach.

Current Gear: Anthem AVM60, D-Sonic 3500/7, Oppo UDP-203, PS Audio Nuwave Phono Pre, Technics SL1210 w/ Denon DL103, Dune Duo 4K, LG Oled55e6, Paradigm Sig. S6 & C3 v.3's, Monitor ADP's, Velodyne SPLR1200.
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That sucks that I have no stores near me that sell Paradigm speakers. I hear that they are the be all end all brand too. I need to find a suitable replacement then. What would you guys suggest? PSB? B&W?

Honestly I wanted the B&W 803 Diamond. I just couldn't afford them over the Pardigm S6. The S6 was pretty much half the price as the 803D. The lady couldn't handle the strange look and the dealer didn't offer a good deal on them. In the large theater demo room they were the best I listened to, maybe on par with the Focal 1038Be. At almost 2x the cost it's up to you.
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