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The overkill solution is safe, I guess that's why so many people here post overkill solutions that are much more gear and money than necessary. But it's useless as advice.

Randall.White, you don't need to spend $1,000 on a receiver for the Absolute Towers in a 2 channel setup used for music. And BTW, depending on how loud someone listens, 40-50W can be plenty. Few people routinely use even that much power.

And are the towers what she needs?

You might check the NHT clearance/b stock page. Also give them a call.

Ok I guess I can understand the reasoning here.  Yes, in the case that Randall intends to use his NHT towers for 2 channel stereo only, I guess a decent 2 channel audio receiver would do the trick.  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00F0H88SY/ref=nosim/8687227-rg1861-00-20?s=merchant&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER


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How large is the room, and how loud does she listen? Any respectable AVR will work fine for 90% of people.

14x24 (roughly) we have a pool table in the middle of the room. It's mainly for music when we have people over. The room where our HT setup is, is too far away to hear. That's why I'm looking "budget friendly" cause it'll be used 1x a week at most.

Right now I have a Aiwa CD player from when I was a kid in that room, so ANYTHING should be a huge upgrade from that. We are using my speakers from my previous HT setup.
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The overkill solution is safe, I guess that's why so many people here post overkill solutions that are much more gear and money than necessary. But it's useless as advice.

Randall.White, you don't need to spend $1,000 on a receiver for the Absolute Towers in a 2 channel setup used for music. And BTW, depending on how loud someone listens, 40-50W can be plenty. Few people routinely use even that much power.

And are the towers what she needs?

You might check the NHT clearance/b stock page. Also give them a call.

When I bought my Three's I was told by Chris to go with the Absolute Towers over them because they have more extension (I think is what he said?). I'm totally happy with the Three's and my wife loves the sound. This room is kinda a party room, so I don't want to spend 3-500 per speaker and put them on stands and have someone knock them over. That's my reasoning for going with towers.

On my 3313ci we listen around -30 for music. Not sure if that helps determine how much power we'd need. That's all 5 speakers going.
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Hi Randall, not sure what your budget is for the receiver but since you stated that you'd mostly be playing music from your idevices, I would recommend you get a receiver with the AirPlay feature.
I have a couple of Denons (4311 & 3311) that work (sound) great for NHT's. Being able to play and control your music wirelessly with your idevices is really cool and work great. I'm sure your wife will love it too..
Most of the newer (and older) Denons have airplay built in and there are free apps (Denon Remote) you can use to control not just music but many of the features of your receiver.

I have a Denon 3313ci used with our Classic Three's and that's what she loves. I was looking at some lower level receivers by Denon and came across that Marantz one. I really don't want to spend 1k on a receiver for that room.

I was trying to get my Airplay going on my current Denon, do you need it to be wired to internet?
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Hi Randall,
As for Airplay, yes your receiver and idevices need to be on the sanme internet network to work.
If you don't have Ethernet going into your Denon, there are wireless bridge solutions that I've heard others have had success with. But your receiver and iPhone/iPad must be connected to the same network.
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I would probably just go for like a Denon AVR-X1000. It sounds like you use the area more for background music, in which case this has everything you need. Audyssey MultEQ XT, bass management, network connectivity, and should you ever want to expand to 5.1 you are set.

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I would probably just go for like a Denon AVR-X1000. It sounds like you use the area more for background music, in which case this has everything you need. Audyssey MultEQ XT, bass management, network connectivity, and should you ever want to expand to 5.1 you are set.

Yes, that's a perfect way to describe it. Thanks, I'll check out that receiver.
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Never have used zone 2 or 3 before on my receiver, could I do that and just buy an amp? or will buying a receiver have it sound better?

edit: I couldn't use a subwoofer with this idea ^^^ so looks like receiver it is....
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IMO amps can be expensive for the power output you pay for. Correct me if I'm wrong but most multi channel AVRs have a pretty high power output for two channels driven. So, even a Pioneer VSX-823/824 would be able to adequately drive two tower speakers.

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Never owned any home Pioneer gear. Alot of car headunits and what not. I'll look into them too.
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Quick question about the Fours. If bi-amped using a receiver, do the Fours' internal crossover still function? Meaning do the highs get filtered out for the sub and the lows filtered out for the mids?

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Quick question about the Fours. If bi-amped using a receiver, do the Fours' internal crossover still function? Meaning do the highs get filtered out for the sub and the lows filtered out for the mids?

Yes.
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Thank you!

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I've had bad experiences with Onkyo receivers (had 3, all 3 have stopped working in under a year). After that I bought my 3313ci and it's been great, coming up on one year of use. Should I stick with a lower Denon (E300 or similar) or go with a Pioneer? Same price range around $300 or so.

Only real must haves are,
* iPhone/iPod connection or USB
* Banana plug speaker connection
* Decent power for (2) speakers

Don't care for apps, just want nice sound. Plus I think my 17 year old Aiwa is on it's last leg. Looking to get everything by this Friday if possible.
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Why not just go with the Denon, since you're already familiar and pleased with them?
It should suit your needs, power wise. I would, however, get the least expensive one with the best version of Audyssey that you're willing to pay for, even if that means buying a previous model year ie: 1912-3, 2112-3, 2312-3 etc. preferably from an auth dealer, with warranty.
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Why not just go with the Denon, since you're already familiar and pleased with them?
It should suit your needs, power wise. I would, however, get the least expensive one with the best version of Audyssey that you're willing to pay for, even if that means buying a previous model year ie: 1912-3, 2112-3, 2312-3 etc. preferably from an auth dealer, with warranty.

Is Audyssey really important with 2 channel listening?
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Is Audyssey really important with 2 channel listening?

Only you can decide that. It's a tool, not a magic wand. Will you run a sub with this rig? If yes, then I'd say you might have a good chance at liking what Audyssey can do. I've never run speakers set to large (no sub) with Audyssey, so can't speak to any experience with it. What is your experience with Audyssey on your other set up?

I run Threes with an EX sub and really like what Audyssey does in my room (2.1), but my room is problematic. I think Audyssey Dynamic EQ makes the biggest difference for me for music. But that's just my preference. YMMV.

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Only you can decide that. It's a tool, not a magic wand. Will you run a sub with this rig? If yes, then I'd say you might have a good chance at liking what Audyssey can do. I've never run speakers set to large (no sub) with Audyssey, so can't speak to any experience with it. What is your experience with Audyssey on your other set up?

I run Threes with an EX sub and really like what Audyssey does in my room (2.1), but my room is problematic. I think Audyssey Dynamic EQ makes the biggest difference for me for music. But that's just my preference. YMMV.

Yeah the plan is to run (2) Absolute Towers and one of my EX subs in there.
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Just a heads up, NHT is having a trade-in sale! Trade in your NHT speakers, or even any speaker, and get a discount on a new purchase. I am going to inquire about stepping up from my Super Zero 2.0 to the Absolute Zero.

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I wish they would make towers in between the absolute and four. I would like a floor standing three with dual 6 1/2" woofers in a sealed tower. For some reason I just don't like stands and I don't need the added expense of built in subs if using a separate sub.

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Just a heads up, NHT is having a trade-in sale! Trade in your NHT speakers, or even any speaker, and get a discount on a new purchase. I am going to inquire about stepping up from my Super Zero 2.0 to the Absolute Zero.

Just thought you might want to know that I sell all NHT speakers for that same sale price year-round, and you don't have to send in your speakers. Free shipping too. :-)
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Just thought you might want to know that I sell all NHT speakers for that same sale price year-round, and you don't have to send in your speakers. Free shipping too. :-)

Thanks for the heads up Dawn! I am trying to decide if I want to make the jump to the Absolute Zero's, if I do I will definitely message you!

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Is there a site or somewhere to see what subwoofer you should choose to go with your speakers? On SVS's website they have a option to put in what speakers you have and they pick the top 3 subs for you to choose from. When I put in what speakers I have it says the 3 most expensive subs they offer.
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Is there a site or somewhere to see what subwoofer you should choose to go with your speakers? On SVS's website they have a option to put in what speakers you have and they pick the top 3 subs for you to choose from. When I put in what speakers I have it says the 3 most expensive subs they offer.

I remember using the SVS website too.  Other than that I think the guys here would offer you the best advice.  What's your room size and acoustic characteristics?  


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Is there a site or somewhere to see what subwoofer you should choose to go with your speakers? On SVS's website they have a option to put in what speakers you have and they pick the top 3 subs for you to choose from. When I put in what speakers I have it says the 3 most expensive subs they offer.

I would worry more about choosing a sub based on your room and listening habits, rather than the speakers you own. Is this sub for the game room? And what would be your budget?

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I remember using the SVS website too.  Other than that I think the guys here would offer you the best advice.  What's your room size and acoustic characteristics?  

14x24 with 7-9' sloped ceiling.

Not much in that room other than my pool table and flat screen. I've been packing one sub over there for weekends but it's becoming a pain and I don't want to accidentally damage it.
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I would worry more about choosing a sub based on your room and listening habits, rather than the speakers you own. Is this sub for the game room? And what would be your budget?

Well that's my dilemma either put the Outlaw sub(s) in there and buy something that'll fit in with the Classic Three's better or buy a lower quality sub and put it in the game room.

Listening habits, right now it's just for parties and when we have company. Or when we are cleaning the house or getting ready we'll play music in there.

With the one Outlaw sub in there we can turn it up pretty loud without disturbing our neighbors (bought a house in a older-aged/nicer area) so keeping neighbors happy is important.
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I would probably go with something for the game room, it's a good sized room, so I guess figure out a budget and go from there. Something like a PB-2000 or XV15 would work well in that space, but if you want something more modest, a PB-1000 would still be a fine choice.

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I'm very pleased with the xv15. If my room was smaller and we'll carpeted (better acoustic characteristics) I'd likely have gone with a PB-1000 or 2000. But the 2000 costs the same. So I may have just stuck with the xv15.

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The room right now is carpeted but were lookinj into putting hardwood down.
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