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post #271 of 2499 Old 02-20-2006, 05:43 AM
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hey guys, I have a question, which of these 2 centers:

Athena C1 Black 2Way Center Speaker ($275)
or
Athena ASC 1.2 Center Speaker Channel $140 (Regular price $180)

would you add to this setup:

Athena Audition B1.2 for left and right
Athena .5's for surroung left and right
DAYTON 12" SUB-120 150 WATT POWERED SUBWOOFER

Thanks..
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hey guys, I have a question, which of these 2 centers:

Athena C1 Black 2Way Center Speaker ($275)
or
Athena ASC 1.2 Center Speaker Channel $140 (Regular price $180)

would you add to this setup:

Athena Audition B1.2 for left and right
Athena .5's for surroung left and right
DAYTON 12" SUB-120 150 WATT POWERED SUBWOOFER

Thanks..


if you can get the original C1, do it with the quickness. the C1.2 is practically the same speakers, just 2nd generation. actually, i think the C1 is a bit heavier, which may or may not be a good thing.

so stop reading and go grab it!

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The $275 one? so its better... but the same speakers as you say? hehe im confused..
I mean, ok so its heavier, but is the original better? is there problems with this 2nd generation?

cause it is $100 we are talking about, which could be useful somewhere else if its basically the same speakers
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Why would you pay $275 for a C1? I just sold a used one for $90 shipped and you can find them pop up on Ebay for a similar price from time to time.

The C1.2 doesn't weigh as much as the original C1, because Athena reduced cabinet size to save on materials and shipping costs.

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I don't think you guys are all talking about the same center speaker. The C1 for $275 is not the original AS-C1. The $275 C1 is from the SCT series. Completely different speaker. It has a woofer, tweeter and passive radiator.

SCT C1 and here

AS-C1

AS-C1.2

The best match for the OP's setup would be the AS-C1.2 since his bookshelves are also the .2 version. The AS-C1 would also be fine if you get it cheaply.

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Please recommend an Athena 5.1 set-up in the $500 -700 range to check out. It would be used with an Onkyo 503 (75w) receiver. I'd like to compare it with cambridge soundworks and Pok 6800-6900. thanks..
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I don't think you guys are all talking about the same center speaker. The C1 for $275 is not the original AS-C1. The $275 C1 is from the SCT series. Completely different speaker. It has a woofer, tweeter and passive radiator.

SCT C1 and here

AS-C1

AS-C1.2

The best match for the OP's setup would be the AS-C1.2 since his bookshelves are also the .2 version. The AS-C1 would also be fine if you get it cheaply.

OIC! So if im gonna use the B1.2s for front left and right and .5´s for sorrounds the matching center would be the $180 AS-C1.2 (to go with the B1.2s)... right?

*EDIT*

Actually since the B1.2s are cheaper than the .5s... I think buy 4 B1.2s instead (use them for surround also), that would be better right? (Price and sound wise) or is it overkill?

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I recently bought the Denon AVR-3805 for setup in a new home presently under construcion. I am considering the Athena AS-IW6 in-wall mounted speakers for surrounds. Can anyone recommend these, and if not, what would you recommend? Also, these speakers are 100W and the reciever is 110. Any concerns there? Anyone with experience with in-wall mounted speakers got any advice? How about Athena for a good stealthy in-wall center?
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If you have room, 4 AS-B1.2's and the AS-C1.2 center would be great. Go for it. All 5 speakers use the same 5.25 inch woofer and 1 inch tweeter.

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Hello,

I have a few athena spekaer questions for you experts=)

I am going to be moving into a house where the living room is 14x16.

Currently I have a Pioneer VSX-815 7.1 system. When I orginally bought my receiver, I was just looking for a basic speaker set to get me going until I replaced it. I currently have a cheap Sony 7.1 speaker system that costed $200 total and it came with a sub woofer.

Now I am looking at starting to upgrade my speakers and I am looking at the Audition Series 2 speaker set.

While reading through the post, I see that the C1 doesnt seem to be able to keep up with the F2.2's and that people were using the B1.2/B2.2 for their center speaker. I am also seeing people talk about the R1's speakers and how good they are.

Would this be a good setup?:

1 B2.2 for my center
2 F2.2 for my front speakers
2 B2.2 for my side speakers
2 R1 speakers for my rear

Now being that the R1 speakers are a bi-pole design, are they wired up differently then normal speakers? (Showing my speaker n00bism=). Also, should I still go with the R1's are should I just go with the B2.2's for my rears?

The reason I am looking at the 2.2's for my speakers is because if I am spending the money, I would rather just spend the extra $200-$300 for the best speakers because I dont plan on upgrading again. I am kind of kicking myself still for only getting the VSX-815 instead of the VSX-1015=( Although I am only going to have a 14x16 room and most likely wont be moving into a large room for quite some time.

Any advice would be wonderful!
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Hello,

I have a few athena spekaer questions for you experts=)

I am going to be moving into a house where the living room is 14x16.

Currently I have a Pioneer VSX-815 7.1 system. When I orginally bought my receiver, I was just looking for a basic speaker set to get me going until I replaced it. I currently have a cheap Sony 7.1 speaker system that costed $200 total and it came with a sub woofer.

Now I am looking at starting to upgrade my speakers and I am looking at the Audition Series 2 speaker set.

While reading through the post, I see that the C1 doesnt seem to be able to keep up with the F2.2's and that people were using the B1.2/B2.2 for their center speaker. I am also seeing people talk about the R1's speakers and how good they are.

Would this be a good setup?:

1 B2.2 for my center
2 F2.2 for my front speakers
2 B2.2 for my side speakers
2 R1 speakers for my rear

Now being that the R1 speakers are a bi-pole design, are they wired up differently then normal speakers? (Showing my speaker n00bism=). Also, should I still go with the R1's are should I just go with the B2.2's for my rears?

The reason I am looking at the 2.2's for my speakers is because if I am spending the money, I would rather just spend the extra $200-$300 for the best speakers because I dont plan on upgrading again. I am kind of kicking myself still for only getting the VSX-815 instead of the VSX-1015=( Although I am only going to have a 14x16 room and most likely wont be moving into a large room for quite some time.

Any advice would be wonderful!

I am by no means an expert and know what I know thanks to the others at this wonderful site. But I'll try to answer some of the questions...

The R1s will be wirerd the same as any other speakers meaning you can use banana plugs or spades or bare wire if you please.

Some have complained about the C1 not keeping up with the F2s. Many however find the C1 to be a very good speaker, but the B2 will definetely go better. So if you don't have a space or $ constraint, certainly go with the B2 as a center.

Experiment using the R1s for the sides or rears. Some prefer the bipoles on the side and the more direct bookshelves on the rear. A few have used R1s for both siide and rear. Any of the setups would sound great. It's a matter of preference really. The bipoles are more diffuse and apparently the sound can't be pinpointed as easilly. Also it depends on if your primary use is multichannel music or movies. Most would recommend bookshelves for multi-ch music. Again, it's a matter of preference.

I have a very similar setup, except I didn't purchase an extra pair of rears or bookshelves for 7.1...I'm still wiring it up...Thee AS-F2s sound greatt paired with the HK 235, but hopefully in the next week I'll have my basement thheater all setup.

Also, one last thing - get a good sub. I got tthe Athena P6000 and it's great. But if I had the $ I'd go with an SVS.

Good luck with your setup.
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I recently purchased the Athena .5 Mark II system and I love it. Thanks to everyone on here that suggested them.

I have a Onkyo 503 7.1 but I am currently only using the 5.1.

I have found a couple S.5 speakers for $29 each.

I am not necessarily wanting to hook-up the 7.1 right now, but should I get them anyway due to the low price? Is this a low price? Aren't they discontinuing this line, and if so, will these be hard to find later?
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Athenas buzzing:
Is it normal for speakers to make some what of a hum or buzzing noise when nothing is being sent through the receiver? I saw some posts, I and it reduced it greatly by running the cable wire through my surge protector first then to vcr and adjusting some of the cables so they weren't so close to each and now it hardly nocticable (I had to get up close to hear it in the first place). It isn't something that I should worry about, right?.

Oh and the 4000 is amazing, I have to keep it near one but man, it sure is awesome.
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I am considering the Athena AS-IW6 in-wall mounted speakers for surrounds. Can anyone recommend these, and if not, what would you recommend? Also, these speakers are 100W and the reciever is 110. Any concerns there? Anyone with experience with in-wall mounted speakers got any advice? How about Athena for a good stealthy in-wall center?

I am kind of surprised to get a limited response on this. I figured there would be tons of people out there with Athena in-wall speakers. Maybe they arent very good?
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AS-F2 (fronts)
AS-C1 (center)
AS-R1s (surround)
S.5 (surround back)

Panasonic SA-XR50 (receiver)
SVS 25-31CS (subwoofer)

99.5% movies/tv.

I like the system but find dialogue muddy on the AS-C1. If I compensate by turning volume up, everything else is too loud. Should I run it hot a few db?

Also, the lowest panasonic crossover is 100hz. Should I set all my speakers to 'small' and crossover at 100hz?

I've been thinking about upgrading to Ascend speakers.
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I just got my asb2.2 and c2.2 setup, and the b2's are great. I unfortunately had to buy these speakers without listening to them because there was no where near me with them, but the deal i wound up getting was amazing. The b2's really sound great. I heard (read) rumblings about the c2 sounding kind of nasally before i bought it, and it does It might not have broken in yet, and I didnt believe in that until I noticed both my new Mirage s12 and my b2's both sound way better all of a sudden... I've got an onkyo sr702 running everything with the speakers set to small and crossover at 80. Any comments/suggestions about how to improve the nasal sound? i've searched around, and running a b2 isn't an option for a center for me. ..thanks guys, great forum
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AS-F2 (fronts)
AS-C1 (center)
AS-R1s (surround)
S.5 (surround back)

Panasonic SA-XR50 (receiver)
SVS 25-31CS (subwoofer)

99.5% movies/tv.

I like the system but find dialogue muddy on the AS-C1. If I compensate by turning volume up, everything else is too loud. Should I run it hot a few db?

Also, the lowest panasonic crossover is 100hz. Should I set all my speakers to 'small' and crossover at 100hz?

I've been thinking about upgrading to Ascend speakers.

I have a Panny SA-HE75 receiver and I have it set at 100hz and all speakers set to small. I then have my AS-P6000's Xover set at highest level.
As far as the center, I run it at a +3db setting.
I have played around with an almost infinate number of settings, but find that is by far the best.

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is it okay to place a 32" flat screen lcd on top of the athena AS-C1? I am trying to accomodate for the size of the center, but I am having a tough time. The tv and the center channel need to go into a corner unit, and I cannot think of any other options other than that. If anyone else has any suggestions, please let me know. also, I have not purchased the tv yet, and the other option I was thinking of was to get a dlp tv and put the center on top of it with one of those tv mounts. my worry with that is I think the speaker will be way too high. If I put it underneath, it will be much closer to ear level. also, I could maybe put it underneath the tv, but build a simple box type shlef for the speaker on the base of the tv stand, and then place the tv on top of that (I would do this if it is not okay to place the tv directly on top of the center speaker).
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Where can I get the best use out of the S.5 speakers that come with the Point 5 MK II: surround back or surround?

Thanks!
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Best Buy has no clue!

I go into the store today and eye the same box of AS-B1 bookshelves that have been sitting up in the rafters for at least 1 year. The big Athena clearance sale took place over a year ago and the last pricing was $79/pr for the B1's. So I ask the sales rep how much they are, thinking it might be even lower by now. He looks them up and they're not in the computer. He then types in something else and they come up. He shows me something on the computer that says "deleted" which means they no longer carry them as a current product. I tell the guy they had cleared them out over a year ago for $79. He tells me the computer listed them at $146.

I once again tell him the final clearance price was $79 and he says well the current price is $146. I'm obviously not paying that much for a discontinued model. He ask me if I'd like him to climb the scaffold and get them down. I say sure if the price is $79. He says nope they're $146.

No thank you, I'll look elsewhere. What's the point of charging full price for a discontinued model when you can't unload them anyway?

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Why didnt you askfor a manager?
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I will on a different day when its slower. Its right down the street from my work. I'll probably go back tomorrow. The salesguy I had today usually works in the Magnolia Home Theater room.

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I have a Panny SA-HE75 receiver and I have it set at 100hz and all speakers set to small. I then have my AS-P6000's Xover set at highest level.
As far as the center, I run it at a +3db setting.
I have played around with an almost infinate number of settings, but find that is by far the best.

Colin

Thanks! I changed all mine to 'small' and it does seem to sound better. I was thinking that it was a waste to have the AS-F2s and have them set to 'small'.
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So are S.5 speakers for $29 each a good/great deal?
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So are S.5 speakers for $29 each a good/great deal?


Yes that's a good deal.
I am looking for a pair of black ones and can't find them anywhere.
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Yes that's a good deal.
I am looking for a pair of black ones and can't find them anywhere.

Black, I thought they only came in black with silver fronts.
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Black, I thought they only came in black with silver fronts.


nope, at one time you could get cherry/black, black/black, and silver/black.

the set only comes in silver/black.
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nope, at one time you could get cherry/black, black/black, and silver/black.

the set only comes in silver/black.

Ah got it. I picked up 2 more s.5s tonight at my Best Buy for $27 each. They were marked down to $29.99 and I had them take 10% off for being opened. Now I have the speakers to complete my 7.1 system.
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Ah got it. I picked up 2 more s.5s tonight at my Best Buy for $27 each. They were marked down to $29.99 and I had them take 10% off for being opened. Now I have the speakers to complete my 7.1 system.



nice buy.......has anyone compared micra and .5 sound? is there really much difference or is it minimal?
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