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post #361 of 2499 Old 03-07-2006, 09:11 AM
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Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions.

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What about the Mirage S8? I am weary of an 8 sub being sufficient, but you are recommending the HSU 8 too (who sells it as a B-stock?). Anyone have thoughts on this one? I can get it for about $200 shipped. $200 to $250 is my sweet spot.
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I've been happy with the Athena AS-P6000. It's no SVS or Velodyne, but for the $250 price of a factory refurb, it's a pretty good deal.

I would second this, I think the 6000 is an underrated sub. Of course, this has nothing to do with the fact I own one...

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the Mirage S12 is back in stock at vanns...

now I dont know if I should get this one with free shipping $399 or the SVS PB10 for $475 shipped.

Which would go better with Athena┬┤s B1.2s all around and a C1.2?
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I cannot really fit another F2 in my setup. I have fixed screen on my wall and I'd have to remount it, and I really don't want to do that. I'm planning on a complete speaker upgrade in the next year or two so I'll just keep things they way they are for now.

I don't mean to say that the C1 is aweful, it's just that I've finally noticed that it does struggle to keep dialogue clear in intense action scenes. For instance, I was watching part of Master and Commander the other night and noticed that the diaglog sounded kind of muddled durring the ship battles. And again, it's not bad, it's just not as good as it could be. I've been largely happy with my Athena setup, hard to beat for the $$, especially the F2's.


Have you tried a B1 or B2 as a center? You should if you can. just for fun

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Can someone that has the Point 5 speakers mounted on the wall with the supplied wall mount please post a picture?

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Have you tried a B1 or B2 as a center? You should if you can. just for fun

I don't really want to put any more money into my Athena setup. I'm looking to change speakers or receivers next and I'd like to conserve funds till then.
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Aporter, I was looking for the same thing before I bought my set.

I just got them today and haven't mounted yet, but there are a few member galleries that have pictures of mounted point5's.

If you go to the member gallery section and search there for athena you'll see a few point five systems.

A couple with good shots from various angles

Mr. Domino
http://gallery.avsforum.com/showgall...ppuser=7442354

Blaclk
http://gallery.avsforum.com/showgall...0&ppuser=28709

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Today I ordered Point 5 MII and SVS 10 sub. I eagerly await and still have not decided on a receiver.

I want to spend around $ 300.00 on the receiver, will let you know how it sounds once it is all set up.

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Today I ordered Point 5 MII and SVS 10 sub. I eagerly await and still have not decided on a receiver.

I want to spend around $ 300.00 on the receiver, will let you know how it sounds once it is all set up.

90% movies; 10% Xbox 360

I love my Yamaha receiver. I don't remember the exact model offhand, but it was around $350.
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Today I ordered Point 5 MII and SVS 10 sub. I eagerly await and still have not decided on a receiver.

I want to spend around $ 300.00 on the receiver, will let you know how it sounds once it is all set up.

90% movies; 10% Xbox 360

I have the Onkyo TX-SR503 Receiver and I love it. Can be had for around $250 or less from JR.com. Sounds great with .5 MkII system I have. I also have the 12" Dayton Sub.
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Panasonic SA-XR50 is great with my Athena F2s, C1, R1s, and SVS 25CS-31
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Well, I am now a proud Athena owner. My B1s arrived today, hooked them up to the Panny XR55 I bought yesterday, and I'm amazed at the quality of these things. Even without a sub (for the time being) they're fantastic. Thanks to everyone on this forum (I never would've known about these things if it weren't for these boards)
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i really like my yamaha, too. htr-5860, around $300. there are tons of them on ebay now. i tested the onkyo hotwls mentioned and liked it for movies. i went with the yamaha because it had pre-amp outs, which i connected to a yamaha m-35 i got on ebay for around $50. i was going to get two B1.2s, a C1.2 and two s.5 for surrounds, but this yamaha rig can kick it pretty hard, so i think i'm getting the B1.2s all around instead. i hope they can take the punishment.
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well this weekend my yamaha 5860 had the two front channels go out...i am not saying this is a bad receiver i like it but wish i had gotten more then a couple months out of it before having to live 3-6 weeks without it....this has pretty good features for the price i may have just gotten a bad egg.......if i had to do it again i would have to consider HK, but for same features may run you a lil more
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You just got a bad egg Clipfan, that's too bad. Yamaha makes solid receivers. I've had mine for 3 years and it's never had any troubles. My next receiver will be a Harman/Kardon though...
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I have the Onkyo TX-SR503 Receiver and I love it. Can be had for around $250 or less from JR.com. Sounds great with .5 MkII system I have. I also have the 12" Dayton Sub.

$200 refurbished from Onkyo. For registering on their site you get $10 off and they often have promotions, so it can be had for $190 or less. Mine came in perfect condition, and has the normal warranty.

http://www.shoponkyo.com/detail.cfm?...il=1&ext_war=1
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$200 refurbished from Onkyo. For registering on their site you get $10 off and they often have promotions, so it can be had for $190 or less. Mine came in perfect condition, and has the normal warranty.

http://www.shoponkyo.com/detail.cfm?...il=1&ext_war=1

Just checked the JR.com site, they have the NEW silver version (black is out of stock) for $224 shipped (unless you live in NY). I'm not a big refurb buyer especially when it's only $25-35 more.

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Just checked the JR.com site, they have the NEW silver version (black is out of stock) for $224 shipped (unless you live in NY). I'm not a big refurb buyer especially when it's only $25-35 more.

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Fair enough. But when Onkyo has one of their 10 or 20% off deals the refurbs look very appealing.
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After getting a wild hair to "upgrade" from my F1's, I started auditioning speakers in the $800-$1000/pr range from as many manufacturers as I can find in my area (including Klipsch, JBL, KEF, B&W, and Def Tech.) Nothing I heard in this price range impressed me as being at all better than my F1's, and even some much more expensive ones did not seem that much better!
Instead of "budget" speakers, Athena makes real-deal audiophile speakers that sell for a budget price. I will be keeping the F1's for quite a while yet after this experience.
Awesome job Gord and Carmine!
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Try some internet direct companies, like Ascend Acoustics. I have AS-F2s and have been thinking about upgrading to Ascend Acoustics CMT-340s
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Try some internet direct companies, like Ascend Acoustics. I have AS-F2s and have been thinking about upgrading to Ascend Acoustics CMT-340s

If you get those, I assume you will be using a sub with them. Your F2's have way more bass.
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Try some internet direct companies, like Ascend Acoustics. I have AS-F2s and have been thinking about upgrading to Ascend Acoustics CMT-340s

"If you get those, I assume you will be using a sub with them. Your F2's have way more bass." PULLIAMM

I'm considering the same move to Ascends Grayson. I'm hesitating though becuase I've just recently been messing with speaker placement and I think I just figured out a much better placement for my F2's. They really came alive. I pulled them off the front wall as best I could and toed them in to fire right at my listening position and the soundstage really opened up. I like the improvement a lot. Enough that I think I'm going to get a new receiver instead of speakers for now. This way I can use the Krell 150 watt x2 channel amp I have to power the F2's and then they'll really sing . I have not done a back to back, so I cannot say for sure, but I have been getting the feeling that a move to Ascend 170's or 340's might only be a marginal improvement in sound quality from the Athena's. So I think for now I'd be better off getting a new receiver with EQ'ing abilities and 7 channels for the future. I'm pretty sure I'll go with Ascends some day though...

PULLIAMM: Yes the F2's can reach deeper bass than the 340's but if you have a sub this is moot. My F2's are crossed at 80 Hz, at that cutoff the 340's would perform excellently and most likely better than the F2's from what I hear. I just don't know how much better...
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That's what I thought, that the Ascends would have to be better than the Athena's but I kept hearing from others that it was not a dramatic upgrade. So I've been holding back on the speaker upgrade...
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That's what I thought, that the Ascends would have to be better than the Athena's but I kept hearing from others that it was not a dramatic upgrade. So I've been holding back on the speaker upgrade...

I have mentioned this before in another thread, but if Ascend would make a speaker with a -3db point of 40hz (instead of 48hz) I would consider it. I have never been able to get satisfactory results with a sub in my 2-channel system. (The sub in my HT system, which is identical, works great. Could be the room or just having more speakers going at once.)
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I just got my F2.2's, C1.2, and R1.2's last night. I'm running them with an HK 635. Once the backorders are filled and shipped I will have a SVS PB12+/2 subwoofer.

My question is what are the best crossover frequencies to set these four speakers to?

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I just got my F2.2's, C1.2, and R1.2's last night. I'm running them with an HK 635. Once the backorders are filled and shipped I will have a SVS PB12+/2 subwoofer.

My question is what are the best crossover frequencies to set these four speakers to?

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If your receiver allows you to set the crossover frequencies separately, you should set each one to about 5 or 10hz above it's rated low frequency limit. Otherwise, you should use the setting for the one with the least bass (not sure whether that is the C1 or the R1.)
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I got that advice from the Ascend Forum, so I would have thought those guys know what they are talking about... but you know what they say about assumptions...
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Well, I'll see how it goes either way with B1.2 and C1.2 as center.

Just ordered:

2) B1.2 (2 pair)
1) C1.2
2) Point 5's
1) P6000 sub
1) Hsu STF-1 sub

So, I'll be using B1.2 as L/R, checking which I like better for center between C1.2 and B1.2, using Point 5's as surrounds and comparing the Athena P6000 sub vs. the Hsu STF-1.

Geesh... what a guy won't do for his friends....

BTW - will test with the Panasonic XR-55 I use in my bedroom. If I feel really froggy, may try them out with my main setup Anthem AVM 20 and Yamaha M-series amps....

All the Athenas came today, Pioneer 1015 receiver due tomorrow, HSU sub due in on Monday.

For some reason I think this afternoon at work is going to pass very slowly.....

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Hi folks,

I have a HK 235 driving athena micra 6 and am considering to upgrade initially the front speakers to AS-F2. Does anyone know a good offer in GTA Canada for this speaker set? Future Shop's regular price is C$799.

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I have a HK 235 driving athena micra 6 and am considering to upgrade initially the front speakers to AS-F2. Does anyone know a good offer in GTA Canada for this speaker set? Future Shop's regular price is C$799.

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Can you order from Audio Advisor in Canada? If so, they have the F2's for $400 (American).
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