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my pb10 should be showing up tomorrow...WOOT!

I currently have an old Aiwa system I purchased back in 1994. I wish I could get everything setup with my new Athena setup, but my house isn't built yet. C`est la vie. I guess I'll have to play with my HK635 and MKII to see how they sound un-mounted.

Think I'll blow the Aiwa speakers if I use them as the L/R mains?


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Silly question: I need to set both the rear and front Athena Point 5's I just bought onto speaker stands. (Live in apartment, can't go through the walls). Anyway, I need some inexpensive stands to prop them up on? Suggestions? I heard awhile back that Dayton has some cheapos I could use. Thanks.
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Walmart $20 a pair mfg. Atlantic

Alternatively you can use Wiremold's CordMate Kit which can be had for $10 per kit at home depot for your surrounds
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My SVS PCi20-39 arrived. Holy crap is that thing huge. Almost as tall as the F2.2, which themselves are pretty dang big. I'll post some pics once the new couch arrives and I get the surrounds mounted.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot this:
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Hi everyone,

I finally took the plunge and bought a set of Athena point 5 speakers. I now wish to purchase a receiver and have narrowed it down to the Onkyo TX-SR504 and the Pioneer VSX-816-K. Does anyone have an opinion on which one would be the better match for the Point 5s? Thanks for your help!

I actually ordered my Mirage S12 and Onkyo 504 this morning before work. I will also be using the .5's . I can let you know in a week or so how it sounds. I was also debating between this two receivers. I liked the look of the Onkyo better and on top of that, it has a few more features than the 816. One more thing the Onkyo can be had for about $50 less before shipping than the Pioneer. That helped my decision a little. They seem to be very comparable, so that's why I ended up going for the Onkyo. Check Vanns.
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Fronts: B1.2
Center: C1.2

I'm trying to figure out what to use as surrounds. Does anyone have experience with both S.5 and B1.2?

Does anyone know of a good wall mount for the B1.2 in case I decide to get that. Thanks!
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Knowing zilch about home audio when I came to this site originally to look into a cheap $300 HTIB, and after reading through these forums for a few days I think I've finally decided on what I want.

This is all to upgrade an old Philips HTIB I picked up from Walmart about 6 years ago for about $90.

Obviously Athena caught my attention as being affordable, scalable, and seemingly some of the best 'bang for the buck' I could find. I'm still on a budget but I think upgrading in this manner should be quite simple and effective.

Athena Point5 System MK II Surround Speakers System to start
Athena ASP4000 10 Inch 400 Watt Subwoofer adding shortly after or same time
Pioneer VSX816K 7.1 Channel Surround Sound Receiver a few weeks later
Athena AS-B1 Bookshelf Speakers even later as replacement for fronts
Athena AS-C1 Center Channel Speaker also later as replacements for center

Seems like a bunch of people have something close to this setup and are quite happy with it.
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Fronts: B1.2
Center: C1.2

I'm trying to figure out what to use as surrounds. Does anyone have experience with both S.5 and B1.2?

Does anyone know of a good wall mount for the B1.2 in case I decide to get that. Thanks!


I use B1.2s for the fronts and S.5s for the sides and rears and it's worked out fine. I had planned on getting a C1.2, but the C.5 has been good enough for now. As for the wall mounts for B1.2s, I use stands, but this is from earlier in this thread

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7234813
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I have been enjoying my Athena Micras paired with a Onkyo 502. Awesome sound system for the money.

My only complaint would be the slightly weak center channel. Occasionally the dialogue seems to be a little strained and hollow sounding at higher volumes. As well I can sometimes notice some slight crackling to the high end on all my front speakers (havent been able to narrow the cause. replaced amp, cables, etc)

Anyway, I am looking to upgrade with some more powerful athenas but I am wondering what models I should be looking at. The center definitely needs to go so I was thinking I would get the AS-C1.2, but wouldn't that overpower my front satellites? If that is the case, I will need to replace the fronts with some bookshelves like the B2.2s. The micra sub should be fine though since its all small room. (?)

Any suggestions would be helpful.

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Quick question, using a pair of Athena F2.2's for stero music. No plans to upgrade much in the near future. With the assumption this will only be used for music, which AVR would you suggest? ($500ish USD) Keep in mind I am not concerned in the least about how the receiver works for movies, tv, etc. Just stero music.


HK AVR-240 comes to mind. Other suggestions?
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Knowing zilch about home audio when I came to this site originally to look into a cheap $300 HTIB, and after reading through these forums for a few days I think I've finally decided on what I want.

This is all to upgrade an old Philips HTIB I picked up from Walmart about 6 years ago for about $90.

Obviously Athena caught my attention as being affordable, scalable, and seemingly some of the best 'bang for the buck' I could find. I'm still on a budget but I think upgrading in this manner should be quite simple and effective.

Athena Point5 System MK II Surround Speakers System to start
Athena ASP4000 10 Inch 400 Watt Subwoofer adding shortly after or same time
Pioneer VSX816K 7.1 Channel Surround Sound Receiver a few weeks later
Athena AS-B1 Bookshelf Speakers even later as replacement for fronts
Athena AS-C1 Center Channel Speaker also later as replacements for center

Seems like a bunch of people have something close to this setup and are quite happy with it.

Have you checked the Onkyo TX-SR504? They are pretty even as far as features and you can get the 504 about $50 cheaper with free s/h right now. Might wanna check it out.
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That HK is a nice receiver, also the Pioneer 1016 is due out soon and people love it paired with athena. You might still be able to get a great deal on the 1015 if they are any around. might want to check that out. I've got the Pioneer 516 in a budget system with the point5s and love the setup. You won't go wrong with eather the HK or the Pioneer. Onkyo also has excellent receivers. The only thing I would say negitive is while Yamaha receievers are nice some consider them to produce to bright of a sound when mixed with athena. My personal 1st choice would be the Pioneer 1015 or 1016 if you can find the 1015 or want to wait a till the 1016 is released, it should be soon. 2nd would be the 240 but both are great and it's really just preference.
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I had read that the 1015 is great for movies, but not quite so hot for music. Where as the 240 is great for music, but not so good for movies. Can anyone confirm or deny?
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Wow..went through the entire thread...good stuff in here...here is my setup

HK240
Athena point 5
p-4000 sub


I was looking for stands for the front and rear speakers....did not want to spend $200 on the athena ones...so I was thinking about the omnimount bf-31b...anyone have any experience with these...thanks
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Has anyone here compared the F2.2 with Polk RTi8? Verdict?

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Anyone compared the Point 5 & p-4000 with a Paradigm Cinema 90 & PDR8 set-up? I have the Paradigm set-up, and wondered if the Athenas were any better (fuller) sounding. I am thinking of upgrading my Cinema CC center with a Cinema 110C center, but I could buy the Point 5's for not much more money.
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Has anyone here compared the F2.2 with Polk RTi8? Verdict?

I have compared the Athena F1 and the Polk Monitor 50 and found them to sound very similar except for bass response, where the Athena is the obvious winner. The RTi series is a step up from the Monitor series, and the RTi8 is within 5hz of matching the F2.2's bass, so the RTi8 may well be the better speaker.
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I had read that the 1015 is great for movies, but not quite so hot for music. Where as the 240 is great for music, but not so good for movies. Can anyone confirm or deny?


I recently sold my Pioneer 1014TX and purchased an HK 435 and the difference to me in music playback was substantial. I was never really happy with the way my system played ceedees and vinyl, though I was very happy with movies. My issue was always that the Pioneer sounded thin, shut in and too laid back. When I put the 435 into the loop everything sounded fuller, more solid and tangible. Movie soundtracks with the 1014TX had a ton of dynamic range which the HK cannnot quite match but I do a lot of music listening in this system so the tradeoff is well worth it for me, though it's not as if the HK sounds poor with movies. My setup is in a basement theater with Athena F1 fronts, R1 sides, B1 surrounds and P400 sub. Both setups were calibrated with their respective auto setups and then verified with AVIA. Overall if you have a movie only system the Pioneer/Athena is very clear and dynamic though sensitive ears may find the combo slightly bright. If you do a fair amount of music playback then I believe there are better options. One thing I can say though is that my Pioneer never had a single issue or glitch in the 13 months I owned it.

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Thank you for your reponse(s)! I was browsing an open box table at Futureshop tonight and came across an HK3380 for a great price, going to try it out and may return it in the 30 day period if I think I'll have a strong urge to go 5.1 any time soon. I think for the moment with how cheap it was, I shouldnt have a problem hanging on to it for a couple years before worrying about an upgrade. (If it sounds good)
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What are the differences between the old audition series and the new .2 line of speakers. I noticed you can get the old ones much cheaper than the new ones. The new ones seems to look a little better, but do they sound any different?
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Has anyone ceiling mounted the B1.2 or R1.2 as back surround speakers (7.1)?
If so, what mounts were used and how well did the speakers work with this mounting?

Our listening position is 12' from the back wall - too far back for effective wall mounted use of the R1.2, I think.

Fronts B2.2s
Center C1.2
Surrounds B1.2s
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What are the differences between the old audition series and the new .2 line of speakers. I noticed you can get the old ones much cheaper than the new ones. The new ones seems to look a little better, but do they sound any different?

The original audition series had thicker cabinents, 3/4 or 1" not sure which. The .2 series has 1/2" cabinents. Othewise they are the same speaker. I've heard alot of people say they prefer the original series due to the thicker cabinents and being heavier producing better base I've never had any experience with the original series though.
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Different magnets on the series 2 vs. the orignals as well.
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I just placed an order for a set of point 5's. I wanted a fuller sound than my current Paradigm Cinema v.1 & CC is giving me, and the point 5's seem to have much better specs. (60-20K hz compared to 120-20Khz). At $200 it's worth trying. Will keep my PDR8 sub for now, but likely get the ASP-4000 if I like the point 5's. Thanks to everyone here for suchj positive Point 5 feedback.
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Just hooked myself with a new Panny XR57 and (potentially backwards) now planning the speakers. I've had my eyes recently on the Point 5's as they are right in the price range to still get a decent sub, but I've read some mixed reviews above with the Point 5's being too bright when paired with the previous XR55.

This leads to two questions...

1) Has anyone yet paired the Point 5's with an XR57 and noticed any reasonable difference over the XR55. I'm not expecting any difference, but who knows...

2) Would it be appropriate to substitute the mains with B1.2's, while keeping the C.5 and S.5 surrounds? I actually could make at least one of the extra S.5's work as a 6.1 speaker, and B1.2s are pretty cheap right now. Are the B1.2's still well-matched to the C.5, while removing some of the brightness out of the front soundstage?
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Just hooked myself with a new Panny XR57 and (potentially backwards) now planning the speakers. I've had my eyes recently on the Point 5's as they are right in the price range to still get a decent sub, but I've read some mixed reviews above with the Point 5's being too bright when paired with the previous XR55.

This leads to two questions...

1) Has anyone yet paired the Point 5's with an XR57 and noticed any reasonable difference over the XR55. I'm not expecting any difference, but who knows...

2) Would it be appropriate to substitute the mains with B1.2's, while keeping the C.5 and S.5 surrounds? I actually could make at least one of the extra S.5's work as a 6.1 speaker, and B1.2s are pretty cheap right now. Are the B1.2's still well-matched to the C.5, while removing some of the brightness out of the front soundstage?


I'm using an XR55 with B1.2s in the front, a C.5, and S.5s on the side and rear. I don't think they're too bright, but maybe that's just me. I had intended on replacing the C.5 with a C1.2, but I'm no longer going to that since the C.5 works just fine with the B1.2s.
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Just orderd a "Demo" AS-P4000 from Audio Advisor. They say it's "like new" just a returned unit. Anyone had good/bad luck with buying "Demo's"? Was a still less than the normal "$149" after shipping was added. Was going with Amazon (free shipping), but they are back-ordered until August.
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Please give me a demo update when you receive yours. I was thinking of pulling the trigger on a demo but just went ahead and get the brand new speakers for $70 more. i would love to know how it goes.
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I recently picked up a Pio 1015TX, and will be receiving 2 F2.2's and a C1.2 tomorrow from Audoadvisor. I'm a complete audio noob who purchased everything based on what I've read here and what fit in my budget. I'm moving up from a relatively wimpy RCA HTIB that I've had for 3 1/2 years, so I'll let you guys know how everything turn out.
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I'm using an XR55 with B1.2s in the front, a C.5, and S.5s on the side and rear. I don't think they're too bright, but maybe that's just me. I had intended on replacing the C.5 with a C1.2, but I'm no longer going to that since the C.5 works just fine with the B1.2s.

cherry ghost - what sub do you run with that setup? I've heard that Point 5's all around pretty much demand a sub to supplement them, but do the B1.2's help fill out the low end a bit better? I'm definitely leaning towards your exact setup, but want to push off the sub purchase for just a bit to get something worthwhile. Anything recommended in the ~$300 range?
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