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post #1081 of 2499 Old 08-18-2006, 12:21 PM
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My Choices are...

HK AVR 430-Z, Onkyo SR 603, Pioneer VSX-1016TXV, or last but not least, the Panasonic SA-XR57

Jim, you can easily find the HK 435-Z on Harman Kardon's ebay site for under $400. It's got a better chipset than the 430 and does room EQ and acoustic cablibration. Also try One Call because they were running a special under $400 for brand new units. Web price is more but if you called it was under $400.

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Their are alot of C1's going on ebay right now for $50 + $30 shipping. These are new in box if you want to use that for a reference. I've also seen some new F1s recently there but didn't check the price. They F1.2s sell for $199 + sh per pair new retail, if you can verify they are in fact in perfect condition I'd have no problem paying $125 - $150 including shipping.

I'd get stands for the B1's on the rear, more placement options and height adjustment that way and you can get good stands for around $30. If you do try to mount them remember they are rear ported so you'll have to allow some space from the wall.


Jakeman, was wondering if you meant the F1.2's were $199 per pair on Ebay or somewhere else? Thanks, Scott
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If you can find the F1.2 for $199/pr you should buy them. Usually they go for $199 ea.

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Jim, you can easily find the HK 435-Z on Harman Kardon's ebay site for under $400. It's got a better chipset than the 430 and does room EQ and acoustic cablibration. Also try One Call because they were running a special under $400 for brand new units. Web price is more but if you called it was under $400.

Hey Afrogt, Thanks fo the info, I think someone can get a real good deal if their timing is right.

Would it be a bad move to just buy fronts and then add the rears, center and sub???

I am thinking of getting the HK 435 and a pair of F2.2s then add on from there.
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Wouldn't be a bad move at all. The f2.2 will sound good with your receiver. The just upgrade whenever you have the time or money. Those floorstanders will do a good job of filling the room.

I think someone wrote that Athena is coming out with a bigger center channel in the fall. It might be even a better match with the F2.2, so holding off on centers and rears might be beneficial to you.

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Wouldn't be a bad move at all. The f2.2 will sound good with your receiver. The just upgrade whenever you have the time or money. Those floorstanders will do a good job of filling the room.

I think someone wrote that Athena is coming out with a bigger center channel in the fall. It might be even a better match with the F2.2, so holding off on centers and rears might be beneficial to you.

I am glad to hear the F2.2 will do the job while I get the rest of the equipment. I have heard that the center was a little lacking (I think it was the athens I have read about so many different brands) it may actually be a blessing for me to hold off.

I listened to a set of Paradigms Monitor 5 and I was really impressed but they were $200 more dollars than the Atenas for the fronts.

Do they sound much better than the Athenas?

Although from what I read the Paradigms Monitor 5s are in a different class, I am hoping the Atenas will sound at least close.

Thanks again
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You are "Da Man", Thank you very much, this should answer some questions and give me a larger knowledge base on the Athenas...

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Wow, I was impressed by those reviews, I will not second guess this purchase anymore.

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bchboy im in the same situation as you

buy a pair of F2.2 from audio advisor with free shipping

or 4xb1.2s with a c1.2 for near the same price..

however the primus 360s are still intriguing and cost a full $80 less from authorized electronics..
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bchboy im in the same situation as you

buy a pair of F2.2 from audio advisor with free shipping

or 4xb1.2s with a c1.2 for near the same price..

however the primus 360s are still intriguing and cost a full $80 less from authorized electronics..

Thanks Gotchaforce, I read the review from stereophile on the 360s and to me the reveiw was good but it didn't seem to be as glowing as the F2.2s. It could be because of a different author or just my perception of the read but I am sticking with the F2.2s because they look cooler to me and then I will add on as money permits.

Now.... I'm torn making the decision of which receiver between $200-$400 that I will be happy with and wont outgrow... I will be using an XBox360, PC, DVD, and probably other stuff as I figure things out. I also love great sounding music so I have thrown the Maranz 4600 in the mix...

Thanks in advance for any advice and knowledge you all may share.
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what ive gathered is primus 360s deliver a lot of bass and overral great sound, however the highs and midrange of the f2.2 is way way better, and i also think the f2.2 look a lot better than the 360s, which look pretty ugly to me.
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Would the F1's be that much of a step up from B1's when I've already got an H100 handling the bass? The guy is asking $225 for the pair, or $300 with the C1 although I think I can talk him down a little. Should I go for it and sell my 5 month old .5's?
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I am not sure if the F1s are much better than the B1s but I probably would not pass up that deal. I would try to chew him down a little and sell your .5s, but I dont know all that much about this stuff yet.

Or you can let me get the F1 set if you pass

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F1's are definitely better than B1 for two channel music. I have both in my setup and the F1's sound fuller and of course have more bass. B1's are rears now.

Figure B1's plus stands would cost about $175 so getting the F1 for $225 is pretty good. Even better if you can get him to knock $25 off the price.

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I think I got lucky today finding a single set of Point Fives on Amazon. I am currently running a Onkyo HT-R500 with whatever speakers it came with as a HTIB, except the driver in the 8" sub was popped, so I replaced it with a Dayton 12" SUB-120 several months ago. I didn't need the Point Fives but couldn't pass them up after hearing so many good things about them back when I researched subs here, so they're on the way for $252 shipped. Thanks for the reading material. I hope this new setup is a nice improvement. This Onkyo HTIB has been my first surround venture, and I bought it used for $200.
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Hi everybody,

I've had my AS B2 front speakers on top of bookshelves since I bought them, but after a bit of living room reorganization, I am now interested in either putting them on their own shelves on opposite sides of the room or wall mounting them.

Can anyone suggest the pros and cons of putting speakers on shelves vs. wall mounting?

Can anyone suggest specific shelving products or wall mounts that can be used with AS B2s?

This is the first time I've ever done any home theater "construction," so any and all feedback would be welcomed.
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Hi everybody,

I've had my AS B2 front speakers on top of bookshelves since I bought them, but after a bit of living room reorganization, I am now interested in either putting them on their own shelves on opposite sides of the room or wall mounting them.

Can anyone suggest the pros and cons of putting speakers on shelves vs. wall mounting?

Can anyone suggest specific shelving products or wall mounts that can be used with AS B2s?

This is the first time I've ever done any home theater "construction," so any and all feedback would be welcomed.

If you can find room to put them on stands instead, they would sound significantly better.
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Howdy all -- new to this board -- first post.

I just installed an Athena Micra system that is being driven by a Panasonic XR 55SA.

As I type this I am listening to George Winston's "Venice Dreamer" and I have a hard time believing that this is the same recording that I have listened to hundreds of times over the years !!

I am not fluent in the jargon the you folks use to describe the attributes of speakers -- so I must rely on my own----

WOW ! FABULOUS ! INCREDIBLE ! AWESOME !
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Aaargh! My eyes!
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Howdy all -- new to this board -- first post.

I just installed an Athena Micra system that is being driven by a Panasonic XR 55SA.

As I type this I am listening to George Winston's "Venice Dreamer" and I have a hard time believing that this is the same recording that I have listened to hundreds of times over the years !!

I am not fluent in the jargon the you folks use to describe the attributes of speakers -- so I must rely on my own----

I am waiting for these speakers (back ordered). What were you using before? Do they really produce that well?

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If you can find room to put them on stands instead, they would sound significantly better.

I can probably guess, but why do you say that? Are stands universally preferred to mounts or shelves?

I'm still looking into shelves and/or mounts for a pair of Athena AS B2s, but I guess I should open up my search to include stands as well. Any suggestions?
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Are stands universally preferred to mounts or shelves?

Yes. Nearly all "bookshelf" speakers sound better on stands. I don't know all the theory, but it has to do with having some empty space on all sides. (Some call it "breathing room".)
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Yes. Nearly all "bookshelf" speakers sound better on stands. I don't know all the theory, but it has to do with having some empty space on all sides. (Some call it "breathing room".)

I was told by Athena themselves that some bass comes out the back because they are rear ported, and if there is no room or it's crammed too tightly, you'll likely lose some of said bass...

Expert in training ;)
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I am waiting for these speakers (back ordered). What were you using before? Do they really produce that well?

Jim

this is my first system -- the only thing I have experienced that can even remotely compare these to is a Logitech Z560 computer speaker system .

I have a Sony 50" A10 and had been using just the speakers in the set.

I have these mounted in the corners of an 18' X 18' room about 8' off of the floor with center channel directly below the display and the subwoofer about 3' to the side of the set. YES , they do produce crystal clear and powerful sound.

p.s. you mentioned that your set is on backorder. If you are buying them from BestBuy you may recieve them a lot sooner than you think. When I ordered (August 4) I got an e-mail saying that they were going to be shipped on August 21-- I recieved them on August 15 !
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Hi folks;

Sorry for the noob question. I'm upgrading my Onkyo 780 HTIB, I was looking for a reasonably priced satellite system. I ordered the Athena Micras, but wonder if anyone has ever compared them to CC's Insignia TSS-450 or the Harman Kardon HKTS 14s?
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$275 for an C1 and 2 F1's, 3 years old in excellent condition. My B1's will go to the rear and my 5 month old .5's sell for hopefully $150 which will mean the front and center speaker upgrade will hopefully cost around $125.

He needs to know very soon. Should I do it?
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Personally I think it is a good deal. If I were you, I would audition them in his house to get an idea of what they are capable of and if they are not hooked up I would ask him if you could listen to them before you decide.

The price seems pretty good because I cant find F1s much cheaper than F2s so it would be like getting a free center and after selling your .5s you wont have invested much at all.

if you pass and your within driving distance from central Ga. I would be interested.

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sorry bchboy, but the seller and I are located in the Los Angeles area. He seems to really want to get rid of them, but I don't think he'll want to ship those big speakers.
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