I think I got lucky today finding a single set of Point Fives on Amazon. I am currently running a Onkyo HT-R500 with whatever speakers it came with as a HTIB, except the driver in the 8" sub was popped, so I replaced it with a Dayton 12" SUB-120 several months ago. I didn't need the Point Fives but couldn't pass them up after hearing so many good things about them back when I researched subs here, so they're on the way for $252 shipped. Thanks for the reading material. I hope this new setup is a nice improvement. This Onkyo HTIB has been my first surround venture, and I bought it used for $200.