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post #2491 of 2518 Old 03-31-2014, 05:27 PM
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Hi folks,

I'm looking for a pair of Athena WS-100, black preferred. Lemme know if you're interested!
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Picked up a pair of AS-F1's today for $38 at a local auction.  While the cabinets are slightly scuffed, the speakers themselves sound darned good for what they are.  Not quite comparable to my main setup---Paradigm Studio 60's running off an NAD T757---but for a set going into my workroom, they're more than adequate.

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Athena Audition series 5.0 for $225 or Infinity 7.0 system for $400?

 

Athenas:http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ele/4489677088.html

Infinitys: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ele/4496532939.html

 

I currently believe the Infinitys to be the better deal but the Athenas look way better and if they are a good deal and speakers then i would like to consider them. Hoping to check them both out next saturday then decide

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Crossover question

I'm currently running a 5.0 system with a pair of AS-B2s as my fronts, an AS-C1, and a pair of AS-B1s as my surrounds. No sub.

My question is: How should I set my crossovers given my setup and the speakers' capabilities? And I know I'm missing out on low end without a sub, but in our current living space (and with a baby), booming bass just isn't an option.

A second question (and this is something I've wondered about for years): If I set my speakers to large, do crossovers even apply? For instance, if you set your mains to large, then from what I've read there is no bass management and the speakers get the full frequency range. But then if I add a sub, does the sub also get low end? Wouldn't that mean I'm getting twice the bass?

Thanks in advance for any light you can shine on these questions.
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I'm currently running a 5.0 system with a pair of AS-B2s as my fronts, an AS-C1, and a pair of AS-B1s as my surrounds. No sub.

My question is: How should I set my crossovers given my setup and the speakers' capabilities? And I know I'm missing out on low end without a sub, but in our current living space (and with a baby), booming bass just isn't an option.

A second question (and this is something I've wondered about for years): If I set my speakers to large, do crossovers even apply? For instance, if you set your mains to large, then from what I've read there is no bass management and the speakers get the full frequency range. But then if I add a sub, does the sub also get low end? Wouldn't that mean I'm getting twice the bass?

Thanks in advance for any light you can shine on these questions.
Without a sub you set them to large which means they get the full range just like you mentioned. When you get a sub then you can set the crossover on the speakers to direct information below that to the sub and above to the speaker.
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Thanks for the reply. Out of curiosity, what would happen if I were to set the speakers as small with a crossover of 80 Hz and no sub attached? My original thinking was that that might be a way to get improved performance out of the speakers because it would essentially remove the frequencies too low to be handled by them. By setting all the speakers as large, I thought I might end up with some distortion at higher volume levels due to their inability to handle the full frequency range. Again, I'm a novice and I'm just guessing.
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Thanks for the reply. Out of curiosity, what would happen if I were to set the speakers as small with a crossover of 80 Hz and no sub attached? My original thinking was that that might be a way to get improved performance out of the speakers because it would essentially remove the frequencies too low to be handled by them. By setting all the speakers as large, I thought I might end up with some distortion at higher volume levels due to their inability to handle the full frequency range. Again, I'm a novice and I'm just guessing.
Yep, your theory is correct so you just have to try both ways and see what sounds best. Lose the low freq by using a crossover will put less stress on the speaker and play with lower distortion. Or get lower frequency response and higher distortion running full range. \

Without a sub I'd run them full range regardless of the specs.
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Sorry to bump an old thread but I have a question for athena owners ...

I've had a full athena setup for years but I recently upgraded to a new receiver with audyssey multieq XT and I wanted to see if anyone else is seeing what I'm seeing. I have a pair of as-f2s as my mains, a as-c1 as my center, & as-b2s as my surrounds and audyssey is setting both the mains and surrounds as full range which is fine (I go and manually adjust them back to small with an 80hz crossover) but it's setting the as-c1 center crossover at 150hz which is quite high in my opinion for this speaker. I wasn't sure if it was something with my setup or room or if anyone else was seeing higher crossovers with the same speaker. I think it was originally rated as 60hz-20khz +/-3db but I'm not sure how accurate that really is and I don't have a mic to measure the speaker myself.

anyone?
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It probably has to do with the placement of the speaker. Where do you have it? The C1 is the weak link in this line. I replaced mine with another B2 years ago and it is much better.
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It probably has to do with the placement of the speaker. Where do you have it? The C1 is the weak link in this line. I replaced mine with another B2 years ago and it is much better.
It's on the top of my TV stand directly below my television. I have ran audyssey many times and one time it set it to a 90hz crossover, I'm thinking maybe it has to do with the height of my tripod when I run the calibration. I would love to replace it with a B2 but I don't see any for sale on eBay or anything, there are some B1s on ebay but I doubt that would be much different than my C1 (should be the same tweeter and woofer as my current center but just 1 woofer vs 2 in the C1).
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The problem is the dispersion pattern of the tweeter on the C1, the B1 would sound better over a wider area. But that won't help your crossover. Like you said, moving the mic a couple inches will give different results for bass and could just be a null or floor bounce from the center so keep experimenting.
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The problem is the dispersion pattern of the tweeter on the C1, the B1 would sound better over a wider area. But that won't help your crossover. Like you said, moving the mic a couple inches will give different results for bass and could just be a null or floor bounce from the center so keep experimenting.
I would also have to lay the b1 or b2 on its side which I'm sure would cause other problems too. The only reason I asked here was to see if maybe the c1 didn't really have much output below 100hz or something. Rest assured, I'm not done tinkering yet
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Right, on its side you'd have the same issues as the C1. I cross my center B2 at 100hz because it still can't keep up at high volume. But I also have dual subs flanking both sides of the center so I don't have bass localization problems.
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I upgraded to the Marantz with Audyssey 32 and it did the same thing to me with the original center speaker. original all Athena. This is a 7.1 Athena F2 setup. My Onkyo set to 80Z small when I had it and ran Audyssey.
By the way I normally run with a DMC center because as stated above the center always sounded week to me too.
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I've recently started noticing some distortion/fuzziness in my front right AS-B2 speaker. My front left B2 sounds clear as a bell, but the right not so much. I tried tightening the connections but it didn't seem to help. Any suggestions as to what might be the cause/solution or do 10-year old speakers just naturally start to fail?

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I've recently started noticing some distortion/fuzziness in my front right AS-B2 speaker. My front left B2 sounds clear as a bell, but the right not so much. I tried tightening the connections but it didn't seem to help. Any suggestions as to what might be the cause/solution or do 10-year old speakers just naturally start to fail?
Did you try swapping speakers around and see if it follows the speaker? Maybe it isbthe receiver output failing.

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Did you try swapping speakers around and see if it follows the speaker? Maybe it isbthe receiver output failing.

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Good idea. I hadn't thought of that. (I kind of hope it is the output failing as it will give me an excuse to replace my ancient, outmoded receiver).
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Thanks for the tip. It looks like it's not the speaker but my front right channel that's producing distortion. I know this isn't the right forum or thread for such questions, but does anybody have an previous experience with a "failing" output? Are there any easy possible fixes or is it time to buy a new receiver?
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Thanks for the tip. It looks like it's not the speaker but my front right channel that's producing distortion. I know this isn't the right forum or thread for such questions, but does anybody have an previous experience with a "failing" output? Are there any easy possible fixes or is it time to buy a new receiver?
I had it happen on an Onkyo a couple years back, I opted or a new receiver.
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I'm thinking of getting two F1 for fronts to replace the polk RTI8 for only 75 CDN. Would this be a downgrade?
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I'm thinking of getting two F1 for fronts to replace the polk RTI8 for only 75 CDN. Would this be a downgrade?
I'm probably not the best one to answer this (but that's never stopped me before ) since it's been a long time since I've heard Athena's and it was the Point 5's. But they have the same tweeter as the F1's so...

In general, I would consider the RTi's just a tick above the Athena's (in performance and hierarchy, not value) but the Polks should be quite a bit brighter then the F1's. The F1's might put out a bit more bass with the larger driver and the RTi8's I had a few years ago didn't put out all that much low end for a tower speaker to my ears and room acoustics. So, maybe a little deeper bass and a little less brightness? So, even though they should sound quite differently, over-all, maybe a push? $75 isn't too much to find out.

The matching Athena center doesn't seem to be very popular on these forums so keep that in mind. The Polk CSi6 and CSi3 are fairly highly regarded for vocal clarity.

Let us know what you decide!
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I think the larger F2 would be a better comparison to the RTi8. I think build quality is better on the Rti8 also as they use real wood veneer vs mdf and vinyl on the Athena speakers.

I used two have two full sets of Athena speakers including F1, C1 and B2 and B1. You'll get quite a bit of bass out of the F1, it has a pretty bright tweeter too maybe not quite as bright as the Polk.

What don't you like about your Polks? Of course for $75 CDN there' s not much risk in just trying them out. You could probably resell for the same price or use them as surround speakers.

Go for it.

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I think the larger F2 would be a better comparison to the RTi8. I think build quality is better on the Rti8 also as they use real wood veneer vs mdf and vinyl on the Athena speakers.

I used two have two full sets of Athena speakers including F1, C1 and B2 and B1. You'll get quite a bit of bass out of the F1, it has a pretty bright tweeter too maybe not quite as bright as the Polk.

What don't you like about your Polks? Of course for $75 CDN there' s not much risk in just trying them out. You could probably resell for the same price or use them as surround speakers.

Go for it.
I feel to athena will have a better clarity ...in mids and maybe voice

i have the rc10 but i am using the RTI8 cause they fill the room more and have better bass depth . However when I put the RTI8 my brother made a comment that was funny : why is the sound blocked...i think it cause the mids and highs are not so clear (tried to eq a little but didnt make them equal to the RC10 for clearness) . Overall they sound fuller , was hoping the athena had the same bass and better clarity .

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I think you'll get better bass from the Athena. That 8" woofer goes deep.

Well worth a $75/pr purchase.

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C1 mount over a 70 inch TV

Someone here pointed me to a great little mount/shelf that worked great on my old Mits 65 DLP, but I have a Vizio M70 delivering Friday and am now in the same boat I was in when I got that TV in 2010!

Most of the mounts that create a shelf that sits on top of the TV aren't rated for much weight, are narrow and as the C1 is 18 lbs and my new TV is much lighter and skinnier than the Mits DLP it's - problematic.

I'm currently looking at TV shelves that mount to the wall behind. Is this my best option, am I missing anything obvious? I have omnimounts for my Athena surrounds but I don't think that'll works with the C1 .

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I'm currently looking at TV shelves that mount to the wall behind. Is this my best option, am I missing anything obvious?
This was the solution I had when I went from a DLP to an LED TV. Just got a couple of shelf braces and a wood shelf. Worked fine.

Can you mount the speaker below the TV? That would probably be the only other option.

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