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Hi All,

Just need a little advise for the experts on the forum.
I am interested in buying the following setup:

2 x Polk Audio LSi M 705 (Front)
1 x Polk Audio LSi M 706c (Centre)
2 x Polk Audio LSi M 703 OR Polk Audio LSi M 702 f/x (rear)
1 x Polk Audio DSW PRO 660wi (Sub)

Firstly, do I need to get the Sub as I have been told that the M705 have got sub in them.
Secondly for rear should I go with surround or bookshelf?

Lastly what Amp should I use. I am reluctant to use a separate amp for the M705 and the remaining speakers.

People using the DSW Sub, any idea if it can operate on 240V instead of 110V?

Thanks in advance.
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Hello Malikaus!

First of all, it is false that the lsim705 have subs in them. Maybe the person who told you that has mistaken them for the LSI, which had powered side firing subwoofers built in.

Firstly, what the LSIM705 have is 2 cassini oval shaped woofers... They are woofers , not sub woofers, and while they seemingly have decent bass output, you'll need a subwoofer or two to hit the bottom octaves. Especially if you are a movie buff, you can't go without dedicated subs.

Secondly, that Polk sub is easily beatable for price/ratio quality. Polk audio subs aren't awful, but you can eaaaaaaasily maximize your bang for the buck on subs going somewhere else. I'd suggest some Internet direct subwoofer companies like SVS, Power sound audio, HSU research, Rythmik or Reaction Audio. The Polk sub you have chosen is not in the same league than the LSIM which are superb speakers.

Thirdly, if you have a powerful receiver, it should be ok. But a lot of LSIM users prefer to supply them with better power, and add a power amp to the mix. They are kind of hungry speakers, and not the most efficient at 88db/1m. Again, a power amp would be the ideal sitaution , while a powerful receiver is far from the worst case.

Fourth, it depends if your prefer directional surrounds versus "atmospherical" surrounds. The LISM703 will give you more focused, but more localizable effects, while the LSIM702 F/X will give you a better envelopping experience. Pick your poison. But keep in mind that the LSIM702s are OUTRAGEOUSLY overpriced. If you still want to go the surround FX way, you could get some Polk Audio FXI A4 AND another set of LSIM 703 ( making it 7.1 at least ) for the same price and obtain way more home cinema quality...

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Hi All,

Just need a little advise for the experts on the forum.
I am interested in buying the following setup:

2 x Polk Audio LSi M 705 (Front)
1 x Polk Audio LSi M 706c (Centre)
2 x Polk Audio LSi M 703 OR Polk Audio LSi M 702 f/x (rear)
1 x Polk Audio DSW PRO 660wi (Sub)

Firstly, do I need to get the Sub as I have been told that the M705 have got sub in them.
Secondly for rear should I go with surround or bookshelf?

Lastly what Amp should I use. I am reluctant to use a separate amp for the M705 and the remaining speakers.

People using the DSW Sub, any idea if it can operate on 240V instead of 110V?

Thanks in advance.
What receiver are you using?
What percentage of HT vs Music do you listen to?
How big is your room and is it open or a closed room?
Most people here will persuade you to go with a different sub I would think.
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Hi All,

Just need a little advise for the experts on the forum.
I am interested in buying the following setup:

2 x Polk Audio LSi M 705 (Front)
1 x Polk Audio LSi M 706c (Centre)
2 x Polk Audio LSi M 703 OR Polk Audio LSi M 702 f/x (rear)
1 x Polk Audio DSW PRO 660wi (Sub)

Firstly, do I need to get the Sub as I have been told that the M705 have got sub in them.
Secondly for rear should I go with surround or bookshelf?

Lastly what Amp should I use. I am reluctant to use a separate amp for the M705 and the remaining speakers.

People using the DSW Sub, any idea if it can operate on 240V instead of 110V?

Thanks in advance.
Don't buy a polk sub. find a internet sub company like HSU,rythmic,PSA,SVU that will deliver to you.
You will need a sub the 705 drop off after 40hz a good sub will get you to 10-20hz which you want for movies and 30hz for music.


the f/x will let you place them better for rears then the 703s.
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Thanks a lot Laserjock.

So when you say add a power amp for the front speakers then what sort of Amp do you recommend??
For instance a Yamaha MX-A5000 would be OK for the entire 5.1 system?
The spec for the amp reads "150 watts per channel into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.06% THD, with 2 channels drive".

Does it mean when all 5 speakers are running, the per/channel output goes below 150W? Would that be an issue with the M705 speakers??

I think after your comments, I'll go with M703 for rear.
Comparing the sound quality, do you believe M703 to be superior to the M702 F/X??

The reason I went with Polk sub was to ensure everything matches as it is coming from the same Supplier.

Due to lack of AV knowledge, I am not good at matching frequencies of the sub with the speakers etc.

On a separate note, how would you compare M705 to Klipsch RF82??

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Thanks Pretzel...

Can you please advise what to look for when matching the sub with the speakers?
Like is it the frequency response of t he two you look for?

Thanks.
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Thanks Pretzel...

Can you please advise what to look for when matching the sub with the speakers?
Like is it the frequency response of t he two you look for?

Thanks.
Not Prezel, but you can try this:

http://www.svsound.com/merlin




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Not Prezel, but you can try this:

http://www.svsound.com/merlin


Thanks mate - The website suggests buying a Ultra series sub which is $1500+ where as I was looking for a cheaper model i.e. SB-1000/2000....
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Malik : I'm currently owning LSIMs, and I've previously owned Klipsch References. IMHO ,realllly not in the same league at all .

But I'm no expert, I'll leave it on that. Just my opinion!

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Malik : I'm currently owning LSIMs, and I've previously owned Klipsch References. IMHO ,realllly not in the same league at all .

But I'm no expert, I'll leave it on that. Just my opinion!
Thanks Aarghon. So which one do you prefer?
Which would be a better option for movies and games??

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Thanks Aarghon. So which one do you prefer?
Which would be a better option for movies and games??

Cheers.
Well, I must say that for movies and games, the Klipsches are really impressive. They are a really dynamic speaker. Almost one movie theater out of two is equipped by Klipsch after all... Their horn technology is really great at shoving detail right in your face. I'd definitely give them a slight edge on the Polks for cinema.

For music, they really suffer towards the LSIM, though...Really suffer. Because of that, overall I really prefer the LSIM. But with that said, I've chosen them for a 80% music 20% movies application.

I'd say that if you don't do any critical music listening sessions, for extended periods ( the references are a really bright speaker and that can lead to fatigue...), the Klipsches could be what you really need. They cost almost half what the LSIM do, so if music listening isn't a pre requisite, they could fill your needs pretty well. And since they cost a lot less, you could put the saved money on a top tier subwoofer model

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Thanks a lot.
I think I have to revisit my decision then as I'll be using the setup for movies mostly.
Any experience with Paradigm Studio 60 or 100?? Would they be good for movies??
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Thanks a lot.
I think I have to revisit my decision then as I'll be using the setup for movies mostly.
Any experience with Paradigm Studio 60 or 100?? Would they be good for movies??
My pleasure! Well, the Paradigm studios are awesome speakers!! ( and prettyyyy too!) Love them! They are a little bright, but in a way that is far less displeasing than the Klipsches. Just making them a slightly more forward sounding than a absolutey neutral one. In fact, they are awesome all around performers. Paradigm are hard to beat for the bang for the buck aspect, too.

And the quality of the engineering on those speakers is really apparent! They design and build everything on the speaker, and also have an anechoic room. The ample testing is apparent on the finished product! The reviews everywhere on the web are no less than stellar...

It would make a crushing home cinema setup! And a pretty good music setup too! In fact, I think it's the best all around solution that you've proposed yet. Maybe some other Polkies will chime in on that?

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Advice on surrounds and center please

Hey all, I wanted to get some advice on my setup. I am a long time polky and need to purchase some new speakers for my dedicated HT

I currently have 5.1 setup as follows
Denon 3808
2x RTi8 Towers
1x CS245i Center (old)
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First, I need to upgrade my center channel so that it is a better match to the RTi8 towers. I would like to get opinions, since the speakers will be behind an AT projector screen they will not be visible. Should I just get another RTi8 or is there another speaker that will be a better choice that would also be voice-matched to the RTi8s?

Secondly, I will be going from 5.1 to 7.1, I have the FXi3 speakers but need 2 more.
Option A)
Should I use the FXi3 for my side surrounds and buy two other speakers for my read surrounds?
option B)
should I put the FXi3 speakers as my read surrounds and purchase 2 new speakers for my side surrounds?
option C)
Ditch the FXi3 speakers and purchase 4 new speakers for the side and rear surrounds? (most expensive option and would prefer not to go this way)


Thanks all
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Hey all, I wanted to get some advice on my setup. I am a long time polky and need to purchase some new speakers for my dedicated HT

I currently have 5.1 setup as follows
Denon 3808
2x RTi8 Towers
1x CS245i Center (old)
2x FXi3
PW404 10" sub

First, I need to upgrade my center channel so that it is a better match to the RTi8 towers. I would like to get opinions, since the speakers will be behind an AT projector screen they will not be visible. Should I just get another RTi8 or is there another speaker that will be a better choice that would also be voice-matched to the RTi8s?

Secondly, I will be going from 5.1 to 7.1, I have the FXi3 speakers but need 2 more.
Option A)
Should I use the FXi3 for my side surrounds and buy two other speakers for my read surrounds?
option B)
should I put the FXi3 speakers as my read surrounds and purchase 2 new speakers for my side surrounds?
option C)
Ditch the FXi3 speakers and purchase 4 new speakers for the side and rear surrounds? (most expensive option and would prefer not to go this way)


Thanks all
I would go with another 8 for your center. Leave he 3's as side surrounds and get a pair of RTI 4 from the polk ebay if you want to spend as little as possible.


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Thanks mate - The website suggests buying a Ultra series sub which is $1500+ where as I was looking for a cheaper model i.e. SB-1000/2000....
Not sure if I missed it or not but how big is your room? What is a "max" you want to spend?


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I would go with another 8 for your center. Leave he 3's as side surrounds and get a pair of RTI 4 from the polk ebay if you want to spend as little as possible.
Awesome, thanks for the reply!

RTi4 for the back seeing at how cheap these are on ebay, should I just swap the 3s for the RTi4 and get 4 of them, will I notice much of a difference?

How are the RTi6 compared to RTi4? Is it worth making the jump?

Basically, I like to do things for as cheap as possible, but if I can get a much better setup fro a couple hundred I will do it


Thanks again!
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Awesome, thanks for the reply!

RTi4 for the back seeing at how cheap these are on ebay, should I just swap the 3s for the RTi4 and get 4 of them, will I notice much of a difference?

How are the RTi6 compared to RTi4? Is it worth making the jump?

Basically, I like to do things for as cheap as possible, but if I can get a much better setup fro a couple hundred I will do it


Thanks again!
I would only swap if you prefer direct radiating speakers. Some do and some prefer the dipoles so it is really a matter of preference. I currently have 2 of the 4's on the side and 2 A1's in the back. I only have the A1's instead of more 4's because a a great deal I could get on them.

As for the 6 vs the 4 the six has the same 6.5" woofer as the 8's so it is the more exact match but Since surrounds are usually closer to the seating area and handle less of the sound you probably (it's possible though) won't notice any difference.


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My pleasure! Well, the Paradigm studios are awesome speakers!! ( and prettyyyy too!) Love them! They are a little bright, but in a way that is far less displeasing than the Klipsches. Just making them a slightly more forward sounding than a absolutey neutral one. In fact, they are awesome all around performers. Paradigm are hard to beat for the bang for the buck aspect, too.

And the quality of the engineering on those speakers is really apparent! They design and build everything on the speaker, and also have an anechoic room. The ample testing is apparent on the finished product! The reviews everywhere on the web are no less than stellar...

It would make a crushing home cinema setup! And a pretty good music setup too! In fact, I think it's the best all around solution that you've proposed yet. Maybe some other Polkies will chime in on that?
Right!! Do you believe Studio 100 to be as good looking as Polk 705/707??
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My pleasure! Well, the Paradigm studios are awesome speakers!! ( and prettyyyy too!) Love them! They are a little bright, but in a way that is far less displeasing than the Klipsches. Just making them a slightly more forward sounding than a absolutey neutral one. In fact, they are awesome all around performers. Paradigm are hard to beat for the bang for the buck aspect, too.

And the quality of the engineering on those speakers is really apparent! They design and build everything on the speaker, and also have an anechoic room. The ample testing is apparent on the finished product! The reviews everywhere on the web are no less than stellar...

It would make a crushing home cinema setup! And a pretty good music setup too! In fact, I think it's the best all around solution that you've proposed yet. Maybe some other Polkies will chime in on that?
Right!! Do you believe Studio 100 to be as good looking as Polk 705/707??
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Yep, I bought my old Polk 10's when Matt Polk was doing an in-store demo at Audiokrafters in College Parl, Ms (1977?).

Still have them and they're going strong!

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I just got my rti a3s and so far the sound very nice. I was going back and forth with these and energy CB 20.

Anyways, seeing that the rti a3 are pretty deep, I'd like to see how my other rti a3 owners have theirs set up.

I want to wall mount mine because when I upgrade my 46 in TV to a 60, I won't be able to fit everything on my console table.

If anyone has theirs wall mounted too could you please post up pic. I'd like to see if the depth of this speaker looks funny when wall mounted. Also I prefer to stay away from stands.

One last thing, also all my Csi a6 owners who have theirs wall mounted to share your pics.

Thank you!!
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Awesome, thanks for the reply!

RTi4 for the back seeing at how cheap these are on ebay, should I just swap the 3s for the RTi4 and get 4 of them, will I notice much of a difference?

How are the RTi6 compared to RTi4? Is it worth making the jump?

Basically, I like to do things for as cheap as possible, but if I can get a much better setup fro a couple hundred I will do it


Thanks again!
I have the RTI8's along with a CSI5 center and it matches perfectly, in fact if I remember right it's basically the same speaker in a different configuration. Anyway, it would probably be close to the same price as a single 8 but at least you have an option as far as vertical or horizontal.
As for the RTI4's, they sound very similar to the RTI8's, but a little less detailed. The RTI6s are more detailed but a little less forward...a bit more mellow. I bought the 4's as my surrounds and love them, but if I was going to have bookshelves as my mains, I might just go with he 6's...but I like those 4's a lot.

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"One last thing, also all my Csi a6 owners who have theirs wall mounted to share your pics. "

Mine's not wall mounted but it is above the tv on a shelf. Atlantic Technology sells a shelf that attaches to the top of your tv & has 2 screw rods with pads to hold it secure to the back of a flatscreen or installing a shelf on the wall would work just as well too.
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I have the RTI8's along with a CSI5 center and it matches perfectly, in fact if I remember right it's basically the same speaker in a different configuration. Anyway, it would probably be close to the same price as a single 8 but at least you have an option as far as vertical or horizontal.
As for the RTI4's, they sound very similar to the RTI8's, but a little less detailed. The RTI6s are more detailed but a little less forward...a bit more mellow. I bought the 4's as my surrounds and love them, but if I was going to have bookshelves as my mains, I might just go with he 6's...but I like those 4's a lot.
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w/c polk speakers do u think ideal height speakers for Atmos speakers?


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you would need in ceiling speakers from polk.
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