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I'm returning my Polk speakers. The ear fatigue is not something I'm willing to overlook. I'm switching back to my energy take classic system. The whole reason I upgraded to the cs2 and monitor70s was because I wanted a little more power. Would I be better off just buying a new subwoofer instead?

I know that by pushing my RTI A9's into the corner the sound was tamed when compared to moving them out 12 inches from their corner.

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I'm returning my Polk speakers. The ear fatigue is not something I'm willing to overlook. I'm switching back to my energy take classic system. The whole reason I upgraded to the cs2 and monitor70s was because I wanted a little more power. Would I be better off just buying a new subwoofer instead?

what sub do you have now? how big is your room you are trying to fill with sound?

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what sub do you have now? how big is your room you are trying to fill with sound?
he has an energy take system now in an irregular 13x13x8 ish room.

this very much sounds like a placement issue. I would like to get a pic of the setup and the distance of speakers from wall and MLP
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he complained of boomy base when the speaker was set to large. which sounds like they are close to a wall. how much of the fatigue is do to the monitor being a little bright or a first reflection point is the big question he needs to figure out.
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what does a little more power mean? louder or more chest punch?
Chest punch. Is that even possible to accomplish without spending a fortune? I actually like the sound quality of the energy take classic system, it's just that I wanted the sound to have more punch to it.
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he complained of boomy base when the speaker was set to large. which sounds like they are close to a wall. how much of the fatigue is do to the monitor being a little bright or a first reflection point is the big question he needs to figure out.
Yes, the left monitor70 is close to a wall. Within a foot. Unfortunately due to the shape of my room, this can't be avoided. When I adjusted the crossover, it did help with the boominess, but not the ear fatigue. The weird thing is that the monitor70s don't sound bright at all, yet I'm still experiencing ear fatigue. Usually within about 20 minutes of listening.
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chest punch is mid bass not so much subwoofer. but you won't get much of it from a 3 inch driver like what is in the energy take. you probably need to look at 5 or 6 inch drivers. you should get that from the monitor 70 if your not you managed to put them in a location causing a null in the 60-300 range.
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chest punch is mid bass not so much subwoofer. but you won't get much of it from a 3 inch driver like what is in the energy take. you probably need to look at 5 or 6 inch drivers. you should get that from the monitor 70 if your not you managed to put them in a location causing a null in the 60-300 range.
So if I were to pull the left speaker far enough away from the sidewall (maybe a foot?) and rerun calibration, it should eliminate ear fatigue and achieve chest thumping bass?
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So if I were to pull the left speaker far enough away from the sidewall (maybe a foot?) and rerun calibration, it should eliminate ear fatigue and achieve chest thumping bass?

I do not see chest thumping bass from the 70's, I have the A9 and I cannot get it from them running 200 RMS to each one.

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I do not see chest thumping bass from the 70's, I have the A9 and I cannot get it from them running 200 RMS to each one.
Is it true that chest punch is more dependent on mid bass like pretzel said, rather than a good subwoofer?
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So if I were to pull the left speaker far enough away from the sidewall (maybe a foot?) and rerun calibration, it should eliminate ear fatigue and achieve chest thumping bass?
I know that a number of long-time (and knowledgeable) posters here are down on the Monitor series--and there is no disputing that the RTi(A) and LSi(M) series are superior--but just to give you another data point I wanted to let you know that I am running a 11.1 Monitor setup with 75t's (a newer but essentially identical version of the 70's) as mains and I never get fatigued listening to them. I generally play music all day long when I am home, and both music and movies sound fantastic on my system (powered by a 140W/ch AVR-X5200W). I consider my speaker system a great value for the relatively modest cost.

I hope you find the solution that is right for you, but you've already gotten a lot of good advice here on avenues of investigation. Good luck!
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I know that a number of long-time (and knowledgeable) posters here are down on the Monitor series--and there is no disputing that the RTi(A) and LSi(M) series are superior--but just to give you another data point I wanted to let you know that I am running a 11.1 Monitor setup with 75t's (a newer but essentially identical version of the 70's) as mains and I never get fatigued listening to them. I generally play music all day long when I am home, and both music and movies sound fantastic on my system (powered by a 140W/ch AVR-X5200W). I consider my speaker system a great value for the relatively modest cost.

I hope you find the solution that is right for you, but you've already gotten a lot of good advice here on avenues of investigation. Good luck!
Thanks. I would be thrilled if I could get the performance that I wanted out of these speakers. Do you think pulling the left speaker a foot away from the wall could make the difference?
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Thanks. I would be thrilled if I could get the performance that I wanted out of these speakers. Do you think pulling the left speaker a foot away from the wall could make the difference?

try it and let us know.

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I know that a number of long-time (and knowledgeable) posters here are down on the Monitor series--and there is no disputing that the RTi(A) and LSi(M) series are superior--but just to give you another data point I wanted to let you know that I am running a 11.1 Monitor setup with 75t's (a newer but essentially identical version of the 70's) as mains and I never get fatigued listening to them. I generally play music all day long when I am home, and both music and movies sound fantastic on my system (powered by a 140W/ch AVR-X5200W). I consider my speaker system a great value for the relatively modest cost.

I hope you find the solution that is right for you, but you've already gotten a lot of good advice here on avenues of investigation. Good luck!
Do you get chest thumping bass with this setup?
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not sure where you sit rough estimate fl at 2ft from wall and 1.5 into the room with fr 2.8 from the wall and 1.5 in. with main seating at 1.4 from back wall and 6.5 from side wall or 5.8 from the front wall. otherwise you have probably a dip in the 80 to 120hz range. you might try putting the cross over at 120 with the energy and move the subwoofer into each corner for better response.

this is just based on a 13x13 room simulation
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try it and let us know.
I'll do it now. I'll post my results soon.
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I know that a number of long-time (and knowledgeable) posters here are down on the Monitor series-- I consider my speaker system a great value for the relatively modest cost.
Not really "down" on Monitors, but realize (or have learned) that they are after all the low tier of the Polk product line. Many of us who now own Rti's or Lsi's gave Monitors an honest try.... having invested a lot of time and money and ended up feeling that we could do better. They do indeed deliver good sound at a very affordable price, which is especially important for those with other financial priorities in life. Some are happy with a Ford and others must own a Mercedes. What is most important is that you are happy with what you have, and it sounds like you are! (what's the Sheryl Crow song?)

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I moved the left speaker away from the wall and did another calibration. I'm still not happy with the results. I still get ear fatigue within minutes and bass that I can hear rather than feel. What does it take to get chest pounding bass?
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I moved the left speaker away from the wall and did another calibration. I'm still not happy with the results. I still get ear fatigue within minutes and bass that I can hear rather than feel. What does it take to get chest pounding bass?
Better speakers and gear and a BIG sub.

If you don't realize that, it's gonna suck to be you.

With that I'm done with this thread and likely forum.


They ain't gonna change that much, you can't make entry level speakers sound phenomenal. Maybe they just aren't for you.

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