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Thinking of going atmos in the near future but cieling speakers are a no go at this time.

Current set up is CSIA6, RTIA7, and FXIA6 for rears and surr. 7.2 PSA XV15 subs AVR X4000.

I am looking at the POLK T15 now because they are on sale and don't weigh as much as the RTI A1. Would like to know if anyone has first hand info on how they sound paired with the RTIA line? Is it close timber match? any info will be appreciated.

Not looking to spend a lot per speaker. I am currently looking at a close out x6200 and I am debating weather or not I want atmos.


speakers will be ceiling mounted angled down.
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I am looking at the POLK T15 now because they are on sale and don't weigh as much as the RTI A1. Would like to know if anyone has first hand info on how they sound paired with the RTIA line? Is it close timber match? any info will be appreciated.
I'm going to venture a guess and say not even close. I don't know the T15 in particular, but I am intimately familiar with the Rti line, and assuming the T15 is more along the line of the Tsi100's, I'd say there would be a noticeable, if not obvious, difference in timbre.

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FYI: Newegg has the RTi4 (Cherry finish only) for $99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16886290006
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Thinking of going atmos in the near future but cieling speakers are a no go at this time.

Current set up is CSIA6, RTIA7, and FXIA6 for rears and surr. 7.2 PSA XV15 subs AVR X4000.

I am looking at the POLK T15 now because they are on sale and don't weigh as much as the RTI A1. Would like to know if anyone has first hand info on how they sound paired with the RTIA line? Is it close timber match? any info will be appreciated.

Not looking to spend a lot per speaker. I am currently looking at a close out x6200 and I am debating weather or not I want atmos.

speakers will be ceiling mounted angled down.
1) I assume you mean to say that you are ruling out "in-ceiling" speakers as opposed to speakers mounted on the ceiling.

2) Those T15's are budget speakers. If you can spend a bit more, I think you would be much better served with the OWM5. They are a decent match for the RTI series (see my set-up in my sig below) and they are both light-weight, small-format, and very versatile in offering as many as nine different mounting options. I used them for a while as FH speakers over my RTiA7 fronts and they performed well. You can get them in either black or white finish for around $160 a pair refurbished from Polk's eBay store. (Note that, unlike the T15, the OWM5 are typically sold individually rather than as a pair.)

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I have a placement and sound question regarding a new CSiA6. Since it's rear ported, is it ok for it to be close to the wall? I would imagine as a center most people have to have it fairly close to the wall. Mine has only a couple inches of clearance between the diffuser plates and the wall. Is this ok? I have also noticed that some male voices are sounding a bit hollow or muddied which I was not noticing on the csia4 it replaced or my older small Polk HTIB center (RM-705). Maybe it's a break in issue? I notice more on TV DD or 2 channel sources and at lower volumes. Blu-ray HD audio sources sound pretty good.


CSiA6 is much better than CSiA4. It definitely should sound more fuller even when it's butted back to the wall. That's why the power port is there.

Try swapping it with on of the sides and see if you notice the difference.

Also CSiA6 likes more power. Make sure you are feeding good clean power. My AVR couldn't keep up with power needed by RTi8s, CSi3 and RTi4s. Once I added external amplification for front stage, the sound opened up so much.

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CSiA6 is much better than CSiA4. It definitely should sound more fuller even when it's butted back to the wall. That's why the power port is there.

Try swapping it with on of the sides and see if you notice the difference.

Also CSiA6 likes more power. Make sure you are feeding good clean power. My AVR couldn't keep up with power needed by RTi8s, CSi3 and RTi4s. Once I added external amplification for front stage, the sound opened up so much.
I'm using a Denon avr-1912 (90 watts per channel into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.08% THD, with 2 channels driven) with the following speakers:

RTiA3 L/R
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in wall rc55i front heights
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Not sure what type of wire used for front heights and surrounds. L/R/C using monoprice 16 gauge pure copper wire. I'm mostly listening at low to moderate volumes. Should that setup be sufficient?
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I'm using a Denon avr-1912 (90 watts per channel into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.08% THD, with 2 channels driven) with the following speakers:

RTiA3 L/R
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rsl speedwoofer10s

Not sure what type of wire used for front heights and surrounds. L/R/C using monoprice 16 gauge pure copper wire. I'm mostly listening at low to moderate volumes. Should that setup be sufficient?
Room size (L x W x H)?

Open concept or sealed/dedicated room?

Speaker wire distance for L/R and Center?

Main Listening Positiin distance?
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Room is our living room, not dedicated theater. 16x25x12. Mostly enclosed but about 7-8 foot opening to foyer along front wall to the left of Front left speaker. Speaker wire length to L/R about 10 ft, and about 6ft to C. Main listening position about 14ft.
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I'm using a Denon avr-1912 (90 watts per channel into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.08% THD, with 2 channels driven) with the following speakers:

RTiA3 L/R
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rsl speedwoofer10s

Not sure what type of wire used for front heights and surrounds. L/R/C using monoprice 16 gauge pure copper wire. I'm mostly listening at low to moderate volumes. Should that setup be sufficient?
Should be sufficient for moderate volumes. I used a 1912 to drive Rti8's, a Csi3 and Fxi4 surrounds in the same size room as yours and it sounded good. Do you have a sub? If your AVR is tasked with driving seven speakers, plus handle LFE thru the mains then it may be stretched a bit. It's not the watts-per-channel but the number of drivers (voice coils) that the power supply must feed that can lead to clipping at higher volumes. If your CsiA6 is new then it likely just needs to break in before the sound will open up. Do you really need the heights? Those extra cones are sapping what little power your AVR may have in reserve.

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Should be sufficient for moderate volumes. I used a 1912 to drive Rti8's, a Csi3 and Fxi4 surrounds in the same size room as yours and it sounded good. Do you have a sub? If your AVR is tasked with driving seven speakers, plus handle LFE thru the mains then it may be stretched a bit. It's not the watts-per-channel but the number of drivers (voice coils) that the power supply must feed that can lead to clipping at higher volumes. If your CsiA6 is new then it likely just needs to break in before the sound will open up. Do you really need the heights? Those extra cones are sapping what little power your AVR may have in reserve.
Yes have a sub. RSL speedwoofer 10s. The in wall heights were my prior L/R so I figured I would just re-task them when I made my recent upgrades as they are installed rather high perfect for that use. However they certainly are not necessary. Not sure I can really say they have added much but need to listen to some more movies. I watched Empire strikes back over the weekend with my son with a DTS-HD MA track at moderate volume with all 8 speakers being driven. I thought it sounded really good but only comparing to my older setup which was a polk HTIB (rm-705) except using the in wall rc55is as front L/R.
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FYI: Newegg has the RTi4 (Cherry finish only) for $99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16886290006
I might have to jump on those and spray them with plasti dip to get that black finish.
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What's everyone using for surrounds? Currently have lsim 703 bookshelves up front and using some spare satellites as rears. Need to upgrade them.

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I must have missed that one.... who is everyone?
Most enthusiasts outside this thread...seriously, it's pretty clear Polk has lost popularity in the audiophile world. I think its because they started offering budget line speakers and the High end audio snobs can not fathom having a speaker in their home that is tied to budget oriented models.


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All I can say is WOW!!! When I initially hooked them up and started playing low volume music, the mids and highs sounded crackly and distorted (I'm sure this is normal). After a few hours of playing they smoothed out and started to come alive. I'm assuming higher end speakers are like this. I'm coming from those cheap ass sony's so this is a treat for sure. So far all the online reviews I read were not lying. Cant wait to really crank them up.
That's a new one...I have probably heard 15-20 different sets of Polk speakers and none of them sounded crackly or distorted out of the box. 15yrs later and a couple thousand hours of high volume playback, I have had a couple tweeters start to fail and make those noises...

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Most enthusiasts outside this thread...seriously, it's pretty clear Polk has lost popularity in the audiophile world.
Glad I don't rub elbows with snobs. At least Polk has maintained their good name over the years. So many other brands have sold their name then disappeared. Meanwhile there are so many new brands that sound like they were assembled in someone's garage. I've dropped all my subscriptions to audiophile magazines and have decided to just live with what I have (though most of that is still in storage). I'd love to upgrade everything to Lsi's but that's just too expensive. Gotta stop somewhere and say "enough is enough".
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Thinking of going atmos in the near future but cieling speakers are a no go at this time.

Current set up is CSIA6, RTIA7, and FXIA6 for rears and surr. 7.2 PSA XV15 subs AVR X4000.

I am looking at the POLK T15 now because they are on sale and don't weigh as much as the RTI A1. Would like to know if anyone has first hand info on how they sound paired with the RTIA line? Is it close timber match? any info will be appreciated.

Not looking to spend a lot per speaker. I am currently looking at a close out x6200 and I am debating weather or not I want atmos.


speakers will be ceiling mounted angled down.
You'll see my setup from my sig. Decided to test the Atmos waters with spare speakers I had on hand. Using the T-15 for Rear heights. No great mismatch to my ears, but that may be because there are so few Atmos releases that use the overheads a lot. When I upgrade to a 13.3.6 AV, I may upgrade the front and rear overheads--but I may not if I continue not hearing any problems. I used the "center-type" speakers for the front heights because I wanted to mount the speaker as close to the ceiling as possible and the usual bookshelf speakers use an over and under form factor for the 2 speakers. Audyssey rates them a "large".

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That's a new one...I have probably heard 15-20 different sets of Polk speakers and none of them sounded crackly or distorted out of the box. 15yrs later and a couple thousand hours of high volume playback, I have had a couple tweeters start to fail and make those noises...
I thought it was very unusual myself, but after playing them for a few hours, I came back in the room and all was well. I know it wasnt my HAPZ or Yamaha 801's.
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if you pick up a pair of rti 4 they will work good and cheap unless you want bipole/dipole.
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if you pick up a pair of rti 4 they will work good and cheap unless you want bipole/dipole.
I have no experience with bipole/dipole. Setup is 5.2. Is it worth it vs. bookshelves?

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I have no experience with bipole/dipole. Setup is 5.2. Is it worth it vs. bookshelves?
Fxi's would cost $400-600/pr unless you find a bargain, vs $250-300 for comparable bookies. Bipoles do give you a better surround field due to their broad dispersion pattern, whereas the bookies give more directional sound. It isn't easy placing Fxi's, while bookies or satellites can go just about anywhere.

I'd pick up another pair of Rti4's at that price (great little speakers) if I didn't already have more than I can use sitting in a storage locker.

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Most enthusiasts outside this thread...seriously, it's pretty clear Polk has lost popularity in the audiophile world. I think its because they started offering budget line speakers and the High end audio snobs can not fathom having a speaker in their home that is tied to budget oriented models.


That being said I still like Polk a lot and think they still offer good performance vs price.
I'm pretty happy with the the T series, what my budget would allow, and they sound pretty good to me!
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I'm pretty happy with the the T series, what my budget would allow, and they sound pretty good to me!
That is all that matters...just don't go down the rabbit hole and try a pair of RTi or LSi series and you will be fine.

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That is all that matters...just don't go down the rabbit hole and try a pair of RTi or LSi series and you will be fine.
Yup... once you listen to anything in the Rti or Lsi line, you'll never go back to any "budget" speaker...

at least not without constantly wondering "what if..."

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I've been away from this forum since I put my current 7.2 together about 3 years ago but I'm getting an itch again to improve my small theater/loft room. I've been seeing the Dolby Atmos pop up more often. I'm sure i'll need to upgrade my receiver but what speakers are out there for me to add on to make it to a 7.2.4? Any suggestions would be appreciated!

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I'm using a Denon avr-1912 (90 watts per channel into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.08% THD, with 2 channels driven) with the following speakers:

RTiA3 L/R
CSiA6
in wall rc55i front heights
owm3 surrounds
rsl speedwoofer10s

Not sure what type of wire used for front heights and surrounds. L/R/C using monoprice 16 gauge pure copper wire. I'm mostly listening at low to moderate volumes. Should that setup be sufficient?
As long as you have an active sub woofer and crossover set on receiver, it should be fine to drive the speakers to a moderate volumes. Movies dont demand a lot of power, but if you are into 7 channel stereo or multi channel music, then I would certainly up the power by introducing the amplifier to at least power the front two.
Also, people may not like it, but I ditched monoprice wires and went with bluejeanscable belden 12 guage cables. I felt the sound stage opened up a lot more. Lets say it didnt sound tinny anymore. Trying to drive a lot of speakers with thin wires is not helping you much. Its not to say, it wont work, but your receiver will definitely be less stressed with addition of external amplification and a bit thicker wire.

I am planning on replacing my fronts and sides with RTi10s and RTi6s as I have plenty of power in the receiver to drive all the speakers with a 3 channel external amplifier feeding the front three.

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I've been away from this forum since I put my current 7.2 together about 3 years ago but I'm getting an itch again to improve my small theater/loft room. I've been seeing the Dolby Atmos pop up more often. I'm sure i'll need to upgrade my receiver but what speakers are out there for me to add on to make it to a 7.2.4? Any suggestions would be appreciated!
The choices are almost endless depending on a number of factors including personal preference, room specifics, and desired type of installation (in-ceiling, on-ceiling/on-wall, or upfiring). However, there are a couple of specific parameters to keep in mind: You will want full-range speakers of similar quality (and, ideally, timbre-matched) to the rest of your system and, if mounted on a high ceiling, you will want to ensure that they are capable of achieving a suitable SPL to keep up with the listener-level speakers.

Since you've posted here in the Polk Audio thread, I presume that you want to look for Polk speakers in a line that will be a good match to your RTi's. If that is the case (and why not start from that premise?) and if you can accommodate an in-ceiling installation, I would recommend that you look at the new V80 (or its smaller cousin, the V60). Another good choice is the 80F/X-RT, which I have been using for the past two years in my 7.1.4 Atmos system. Either way, plan on spending roughly $500 to $600 for four speakers (the 80F/X-RT are sold in L & R designated pairs, but I believe the V-family are sold individually). There are plenty of other (and cheaper) options, but those would be my first choice if I were in your shoes.

If you haven't done any in-depth research on immersive audio set-ups, I highly recommend that you peruse The official Dolby Atmos thread (home theater version) as well as The "Official" Immersive Audio Discussion thread - Atmos/DTS:X/Auro. The links I've provided will take you to the first post of each of those threads containing links to other related information including the Dolby White Paper on Atmos for the HT. You might also want to search or post your questions in one of those threads to garner more feedback. Or continue to ask away here for Polk-specific issues.

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