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I looked at those LSiM and don't plan to spend that much for Polks, nor do I want to replace all my other speakers (still rolling along and still happy with them), so I may be stuck with the RTi series if I wish to upgrade them. I figured I'd be able to subsidize some of the cost by selling the RTi10s. A new TV is on the horizon, but the 4k (75") I want I don't want to give them that kind of money and I know it will be much cheaper by years end, so I will wait them out. I also am in the market for a UHD player also. We'll see.

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The RTi to RTiA step is so small its not worth it. Additionally while the A9's may be better midrange, its not enough to justify the price. TBH you wont get JACK out of the RTi if you try to resell them. No one will pay anything for them, you will be lucky to get 200 out of the pair tops, ask @RobLee .

Again if you want better, you need to up your game significantly and just buying the A9's aint gonna do it, and I'm afraid you will be disappointed if you get them.

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The RTi to RTiA step is so small its not worth it. Additionally while the A9's may be better midrange, its not enough to justify the price. TBH you wont get JACK out of the RTi if you try to resell them. No one will pay anything for them, you will be lucky to get 200 out of the pair tops, ask @RobLee .

Again if you want better, you need to up your game significantly and just buying the A9's aint gonna do it, and I'm afraid you will be disappointed if you get them.
Other that the LSiM, what do you suggest?

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Other that the LSiM, what do you suggest?
Not a clue bro. This is where things get subjectively too hard to make suggestions. The best thing I can tell you is to take your time, go to some different stores that actually know how to setup speakers right and try different brands.

Make a demo cd of your favorite songs and listen to them and see what you think.

There are a lot of different options out there, and what I like brand and sonic signature wise may not be your cup of tea and vice versa.

Hence I'm hesitant to make suggestions. Its always best to get out there and listen to as many speakers as you can, in your price range or not. Bookshelf or towers.

If you truly do have enough subs for your liking, then a floorstander isnt really "needed" and that may open up better options for you.

There are too many speakers out there to name, so get out there, listen to as many as you can to figure out what kind you like. Do you prefer ribbon tweeters like in Emotiva speakers, do you like dome tweeters like in Polk, Planar magnetic like in Salk, etc...... Do you like electrostatics like Martin Logan, or perhaps full on Planar like Magnepan...... Are horns like those in Klipsh speakers your deal?

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Not a clue bro. This is where things get subjectively too hard to make suggestions. The best thing I can tell you is to take your time, go to some different stores that actually know how to setup speakers right and try different brands.

Make a demo cd of your favorite songs and listen to them and see what you think.

There are a lot of different options out there, and what I like brand and sonic signature wise may not be your cup of tea and vice versa.

Hence I'm hesitant to make suggestions. Its always best to get out there and listen to as many speakers as you can, in your price range or not. Bookshelf or towers.

If you truly do have enough subs for your liking, then a floorstander isnt really "needed" and that may open up better options for you.

There are too many speakers out there to name, so get out there, listen to as many as you can to figure out what kind you like. Do you prefer ribbon tweeters like in Emotiva speakers, do you like dome tweeters like in Polk, Planar magnetic like in Salk, etc...... Do you like electrostatics like Martin Logan, or perhaps full on Planar like Magnepan...... Are horns like those in Klipsh speakers your deal?
Sounds fair. That's going to be tough. The one stereo store that existed I don't think exist anymore. I may contact Crutchfield since they are not too far from me and visit their shop.

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I am putting about 275 watts to each of my rtia9/csia6 and they just absolutely sound beautifully. I tend to lean just a bit to Tender's suggestion about going from the rti10 to the rtia9 being not much of an upgrade. I think the 9's will give you a tad more mid bass punch which i prefer for movies (i don't care about 2 channel music). As you can see, i have dual JTR Cap 1400s, as well as big ass towers and i love the way a full tower sounds compared to bookshelves. I think you are fine for power since you are at 200/channel.

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Sounds fair. That's going to be tough. The one stereo store that existed I don't think exist anymore. I may contact Crutchfield since they are not too far from me and visit their shop.
A lot of places have a 30 day return policy, internet direct or big box store. I'd try some different speakers and see what you like/dont like. Just be sure you know the policy, but IMHO even if you have to pay return shipping a couple times, its a cheap price to pay to hammer down the speakers you really like without a ton of effort.

If I'm being honest about evaluating a speaker I'm looking for mainly the following:

1. Does it get to at least 80hz (because below that you should be using subs TBH)
2. Is it picky about placement
3. Is the sweet spot narrow or wide
4. How big and bad is the best center in that brand and models lineup?
5. Can I afford at least the front 3 at the same time and then afford to later on without a ton of cost add surrounds in pairs?

IMHO #4 is the most important. You can always get towers for L/R if you have bookshelves to start with for money reasons, but you CANT always get a better center as some lines dont have it.

Personally my fav center of all time is the Paradigm Studio CC-690 as its a big bad boy of a center. But I'm a fan of Paradigm myself and dont want to push my personal preferences on you. Simply show you that a big bad center is possible and a good idea to ensure you really get all the dialog your supposed to get

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A lot of places have a 30 day return policy, internet direct or big box store. I'd try some different speakers and see what you like/dont like. Just be sure you know the policy, but IMHO even if you have to pay return shipping a couple times, its a cheap price to pay to hammer down the speakers you really like without a ton of effort.

If I'm being honest about evaluating a speaker I'm looking for mainly the following:

1. Does it get to at least 80hz (because below that you should be using subs TBH)
2. Is it picky about placement
3. Is the sweet spot narrow or wide
4. How big and bad is the best center in that brand and models lineup?
5. Can I afford at least the front 3 at the same time and then afford to later on without a ton of cost add surrounds in pairs?

IMHO #4 is the most important. You can always get towers for L/R if you have bookshelves to start with for money reasons, but you CANT always get a better center as some lines dont have it.

Personally my fav center of all time is the Paradigm Studio CC-690 as its a big bad boy of a center. But I'm a fan of Paradigm myself and dont want to push my personal preferences on you. Simply show you that a big bad center is possible and a good idea to ensure you really get all the dialog your supposed to get
I don't know a lot about speakers but the very first time i saw a pic of the Paradigm Studio CC-690 and Paradigm Studio 100. I fell in love; they look beautiful and from what i've read sound amazing as well. The center channel is MASSIVE but rightly so. I hope to hear them one day or better still own them

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For anyone interested in the LSiM line, keep your eye on slickdeals.net. That line has been on sale fairly regularly for 50+% off.
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If one already had the CSI3, would upgrading to the CSI A6 (or CSI5) be a noticeable improvement and worth the cost ($250-$300)?

It would be paired with RTI6s for the front soundstage. At higher volumes I am unimpressed with the CSI3.

Essentially I'm wondering if it makes sense to put more money into my mid-range system or save that money and make a significant LCR upgrade further into the future.

Does anyone like to gamble on the refurbished speakers in the eBay Polk Store? Never liked refurbished stuff...
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If one already had the CSI3, would upgrading to the CSI A6 (or CSI5) be a noticeable improvement and worth the cost ($250-$300)?

It would be paired with RTI6s for the front soundstage. At higher volumes I am unimpressed with the CSI3.

Essentially I'm wondering if it makes sense to put more money into my mid-range system or save that money and make a significant LCR upgrade further into the future.

Does anyone like to gamble on the refurbished speakers in the eBay Polk Store? Never liked refurbished stuff...
Personally I would switch to the larger center. The driver size would match. (6.5")

My center doesn't have any issues filling my 25x25 room.

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I went ahead and ordered a cherry CSI A6 off ebay. Supposedly "new". I have the "what ifs" pretty bad, so hopefully this solves it. Next year I'll look at upping the RTI6 to RTI A7 or A9.
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I'm looking for an on wall speaker that I can use with my A7 to make up a 5.1/7.1 system. The Rti A1 and A3 are too large for me to put on wall and I don't want to have speakers on floor stands, and I would like to stay way from ceiling speakers. Any suggestions?
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I'm looking for an on wall speaker that I can use with my A7 to make up a 5.1/7.1 system. The Rti A1 and A3 are too large for me to put on wall and I don't want to have speakers on floor stands, and I would like to stay way from ceiling speakers. Any suggestions?
A lot of forum members happily use the Polk OWM5 or OWM3. They are not high end but work quite well for surrounds and have several mounting options. They come in black or white.

https://www.polkaudio.com/products/owm5

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A lot of forum members happily use the Polk OWM5 or OWM3. They are not high end but work quite well for surrounds and have several mounting options. They come in black or white.

https://www.polkaudio.com/products/owm5

https://www.polkaudio.com/products/owm3
Thanks for the suggestion. I saw that those aren't timber matched to the Rti A7's. I would hate to spend the money on the OWM's and find that I notice the mismatch and have to then change out speakers. Are members with Rti's using the OWM's?

The problem is im happy enough with the A7's I don't want to start looking at other speaker brands.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I saw that those aren't timber matched to the Rti A7's. I would hate to spend the money on the OWM's and find that I notice the mismatch and have to then change out speakers. Are members with Rti's using the OWM's?

The problem is im happy enough with the A7's I don't want to start looking at other speaker brands.
They are supposed to be timbre matched to RTiA although that probably doesn't matter for surrounds unless you are listening to multi-channel music. Polk site says timbre match to other speakers but does not specifiy which ones. However if you look for example at an RTiA3 in polk ebay store it actually lists the OWM series as a match for it.

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Thanks for the suggestion. I saw that those aren't timber matched to the Rti A7's. I would hate to spend the money on the OWM's and find that I notice the mismatch and have to then change out speakers. Are members with Rti's using the OWM's?

The problem is im happy enough with the A7's I don't want to start looking at other speaker brands.
I'm using the OWM 5's as Atmos with RTI A9's and a CSI A6. Sounds good to me!

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I'm using the OWM 5's as Atmos with RTI A9's and a CSI A6. Sounds good to me!

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Do you have a pic of those OWMs mounted on the ceiling?

Looking for an Atmos speaker was my next task.

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I'm using the OWM 5's as Atmos with RTI A9's and a CSI A6. Sounds good to me!

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This is exactly what i will be using the owm5 for when i am ready.

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I am putting about 275 watts to each of my rtia9/csia6 and they just absolutely sound beautifully. I tend to lean just a bit to Tender's suggestion about going from the rti10 to the rtia9 being not much of an upgrade. I think the 9's will give you a tad more mid bass punch which i prefer for movies (i don't care about 2 channel music). As you can see, i have dual JTR Cap 1400s, as well as big ass towers and i love the way a full tower sounds compared to bookshelves. I think you are fine for power since you are at 200/channel.

If you are just wanting to upgrade something cause you have money to burn. I would think about selling those pb2000 and upgrading your current subs to something ALOT more impactful.
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If I'm being honest about evaluating a speaker I'm looking for mainly the following:

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5. Can I afford at least the front 3 at the same time and then afford to later on without a ton of cost add surrounds in pairs?

IMHO #4 is the most important. You can always get towers for L/R if you have bookshelves to start with for money reasons, but you CANT always get a better center as some lines dont have it.

Personally my fav center of all time is the Paradigm Studio CC-690 as its a big bad boy of a center. But I'm a fan of Paradigm myself and dont want to push my personal preferences on you. Simply show you that a big bad center is possible and a good idea to ensure you really get all the dialog your supposed to get
Thanks for the feedback. The main issue is that I don't want to have to replace all my surround system speakers just to accommodate a new set of front towers - kind of stuck between a rock and hard place. My HT setup is really nice and I don't want/need to alter it. I plan to put money into a larger 4k TV shortly. I'll just have to think on it for now.

Also, I am ok with the PB2000 as they provide a really nice impact, especially for movies. A lot of the music I listen to (Soul, R&B, Jazz) don't really hit (go that low in bass) the bass too hard, but when I listen to my old shool rap music, it works those subs and the subs respond quite nicely, so I am ok with them.
The majority of my music is not rap and therefore I would benefit more from a nicer set of towers than bass for my style of music.

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I went ahead and ordered a cherry CSI A6 off ebay. Supposedly "new". I have the "what ifs" pretty bad, so hopefully this solves it. Next year I'll look at upping the RTI6 to RTI A7 or A9.
Got it last night and set it up. It's big and very nice looking. Sounds great. More testing to be done as it breaks in, but I watched a movie last night and can tell the difference over the CSI3. Clearer and fuller sounding. I have it and the front mains (RTI6) crossed over at 60hz. Love it.
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Got it last night and set it up. It's big and very nice looking. Sounds great. More testing to be done as it breaks in, but I watched a movie last night and can tell the difference over the CSI3. Clearer and fuller sounding. I have it and the front mains (RTI6) crossed over at 60hz. Love it.
Glad that's working out for you. As for you mains, if you like the RTI6's, and already have a good sub, I don't think you'll really gain anything by picking up the RTIa7's...and if you have an entry-medium sub, I think an upgrade there will be a better bang for the buck. Either way, I'd check out the 7's and/or the 9's in person if possible.
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Glad that's working out for you. As for you mains, if you like the RTI6's, and already have a good sub, I don't think you'll really gain anything by picking up the RTIa7's...and if you have an entry-medium sub, I think an upgrade there will be a better bang for the buck. Either way, I'd check out the 7's and/or the 9's in person if possible.
Thanks for the tip. I do have a good PSA sub (15V). I do like the RTI6 so I am not itching to upgrade those. But, they're black vs the A6 being cherry. So I think a swap for a cherry set in the next year will happen. A little disappointed to hear that the A7s won't be a huge step up if you have a sub.
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Got it last night and set it up. It's big and very nice looking. Sounds great. More testing to be done as it breaks in, but I watched a movie last night and can tell the difference over the CSI3. Clearer and fuller sounding. I have it and the front mains (RTI6) crossed over at 60hz. Love it.
I have mine center xover at 60hz, too, and like it better than at 80. It sounds fuller, deeper and stronger, if you will.

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TBH you wont get JACK out of the RTi if you try to resell them. No one will pay anything for them, you will be lucky to get 200 out of the pair tops, ask @RobLee .
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For anyone interested Adorama has the RTiA1's for $160 and the RTiA3's for $210 both in Black and Cherry

Wish i needed a pair.
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Well, I have the new room up and running, and I'm stoked...Need to get some pics up for all to see. Gotta find time to squeeze that in...
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Well, I have the new room up and running, and I'm stoked...Need to get some pics up for all to see. Gotta find time to squeeze that in...
Jealous of all you folks with dedicated theater rooms. One day... Next step should be sub upgrades. You're missing out on a lot of low frequency content with the Polk subs.
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It sounds like the Rti's are the new Monitors!
I see there are a lot of mentions for RtiA7's and A9's in this thread recently. I still believe they are fine speakers, but due to some life changes it's looking like ours may not be coming out of storage when we expected. I know the speakers have limited value, but the twin Emo's (XPA-5 and XPA-2) may be worth something to someone... especially when paired with a full set of RtiA's

Anyone in the southeast who might be seriously interested pls drop me a PM. Too big and heavy to ship.
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