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post #4951 of 39131 Old 12-15-2008, 07:48 PM
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I do not reccomend the CSR. I have it and run it hot to get it sounding "okay".

I am strongly considering the jump to the RTi....skipping the monitor and tsi series. I don't have the $$$ to jump to the LSi and I am not sure how they sound for HT anyway.
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I can get a good condition used CSi30 locally at a very low price.
Would that work well as a center to go with a pair of Polk R50s as fronts?

Looks like the CSi30 is a little better speaker than the CSi25 (or CSR) I was considering until I found this deal available. Close enough to still match well enough but offer a wider range for the center channel?
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I do not reccomend the CSR. I have it and run it hot to get it sounding "okay".

I am strongly considering the jump to the RTi....skipping the monitor and tsi series. I don't have the $$$ to jump to the LSi and I am not sure how they sound for HT anyway.

I have both R series and Rti setups, the rti is far, far better.

Much more 'full' of a sound.

The R series, while having really excellent detail for the price, are a bit weak and hollow. They sound decent run full, but give up a lot of detail. I run both my R series setup, and my rti setup crossed at 60, with the sub a touch hot (+5 over calibrated level). Anything else tends to muddy up the mid range, or give up bass punch.

That said, for HT, the R series is really an excellent value. Music is where there is an obvious difference.
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Oh, boy, where do we begin?

1st off, you usually want your 3 main speakers to be "timbre matched", i.e. designed to work and sound together seamlessly. In this sense the proper center for your M20's is CSM or CSi25. CSR has the same components but different finish. Neither of those three is considered a very good Polk Audio center, so people jump one level up to Monitor series, CS1 or CS2, CS2 being larger and better of the two. CS10 and CS20 are from a new TSi line similar to Monitor, and are very close to CS1 and CS2, respectively. CSiA4 is the smaller center to match RTi - another step up.

Marketing, price and quality -wise Polk positions M (or R) < Monitor < TSi < RTi ...

So you are already asking about 4 different speaker series (fortunately from the same manufacturer,) and RM8 surrounds are from yet another line - RM.

Short answer, though, get CS2 if you can, but make sure to level match whichever five you end up with.

I did some research from people who have M20's also (and I ended up going with FXi A4's for surrounds as Polk had them on sale through their eBay Direct Store) on the Polk forum and I think I'm going to go with the CSi A4's for the center channel. Plus from the specs on the sites, they should voice well with the M20's I just got.

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I have a question guys. Do any of you know where I can pick up 4 satellite or bookshelf Polk speakers to go with my Monitor 60s and CS2....for cheap. (or at least cheaper than amazon has any of them).

I am thinking the monitor 30s or 40s, but any other suggestions would be helpful.

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I have a question guys. Do any of you know where I can pick up 4 satellite or bookshelf Polk speakers to go with my Monitor 60s and CS2....for cheap. (or at least cheaper than amazon has any of them).

I am thinking the monitor 30s or 40s, but any other suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks.

Keep checking Polk's eBay store is all I can say!
They have a LOT of gear on there.

Or depending on where you are in Houston, check both Circuit City's that are closing?
I got my M20's for around $100 at the Temple store this weekend.

I think the ones closing are Sharpstown and League City. Worth checking out at least.

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I have a question guys. Do any of you know where I can pick up 4 satellite or bookshelf Polk speakers to go with my Monitor 60s and CS2....for cheap. (or at least cheaper than amazon has any of them).

I am thinking the monitor 30s or 40s, but any other suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks.

Check newegg. They have been on sale for them and I think they have a couple of open box over there for a pretty good deal. What price are you wanting them for?

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Check newegg. They have been on sale for them and I think they have a couple of open box over there for a pretty good deal. What price are you wanting them for?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...dio%20Speakers

$89/pair isn't bad!

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Not real sure. I guess I am fairly flexible, but it just seems that I've seen them listed better than what they are going for on Amazon.

And, are the 40s a significant improvement over the 30s? I am just using them as surrounds, so I dont know if that will give preference to one or the other.

EDIT: It sure isnt rockstar, but I am looking at 99 for the black. I think that's what I am gonna grab.
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Not real sure. I guess I am fairly flexible, but it just seems that I've seen them listed better than what they are going for on Amazon.

And, are the 40s a significant improvement over the 30s? I am just using them as surrounds, so I dont know if that will give preference to one or the other.

EDIT: It sure isnt rockstar, but I am looking at 99 for the black. I think that's what I am gonna grab.

Yeah sorry I didn't see the black til posting!

My room is dang wide, so I nabbed the FXi A4's from Polk's eBay store for $169+ ship, as their wide disbursement should help me out a lot with my current 5.1 system. I probably could have gone smaller and gotten L&R surround and L&R center surrounds, but I only have a wall on the left side to really mount a speaker, and my couch is right up next to it, so these should do fine.

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Not real sure. I guess I am fairly flexible, but it just seems that I've seen them listed better than what they are going for on Amazon.

And, are the 40s a significant improvement over the 30s? I am just using them as surrounds, so I dont know if that will give preference to one or the other.

EDIT: It sure isnt rockstar, but I am looking at 99 for the black. I think that's what I am gonna grab.

$89 to $99 is the best I have seen them. I dont know personally if the 40's are that much better but from what I hear for surrounds they are more difficult to mount because they are a descent amount bigger. I think for just surrounds alone you will love the 30's and wont tell much of a diffrence. Good luck to you.

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thanks guys! I think that's the best buy for me, considering the fronts. Eventually they'll all get upgraded, but for now I guess its the monitor series for my HT.

thanks again for the help!
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Yeah I just saw a set of 40's in C.C. this past weekend and they're pretty darned big.

If you had an ideal space and were just going to set them on stands for surround listening that'd be fine, but for a wall mount they are kinda large!

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Yeah...I've got the side surrounds on stands and the rear surrounds on the wall. I'll probably just pick up the 30s since I'll be moving in a few months anyway. Not sure what the layout will be in the new place, so I will need the flexibility.
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I have both R series and Rti setups, the rti is far, far better.

Much more 'full' of a sound.

The R series, while having really excellent detail for the price, are a bit weak and hollow. They sound decent run full, but give up a lot of detail. I run both my R series setup, and my rti setup crossed at 60, with the sub a touch hot (+5 over calibrated level). Anything else tends to muddy up the mid range, or give up bass punch.

That said, for HT, the R series is really an excellent value. Music is where there is an obvious difference.


I just hate the dialog on the R series. Either that or my hearing is going bad. Take for instance, the "revving" sound in the movie Cars. Until it gets low, I can't really hear distinction all that well.

I am jump to the Rti series, but only in pieces. According to the site, all series are timbre matched, but this is doubtful (imo). Would you suggest upgrading the mains, center, or surrounds first? (or save, save, save until one could upgrade all 3)?
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The RTI A3's rock! Very enjoyable speakers.

Powered by a Behringer A500, through an HK AVR235 receiver.

Edit: Guess I'll chime in later with any more updates.

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Hey guys,
I've had my setup since a little bit before summer, and i'm loving it so far.

Fronts - RTi10's
Rears - RTi A3's
Center - CSI A6
Receiver - Pioneer Elite 92

I've been wanting to replace the RTi10's with the RTi A7's pretty much for as long as i've had the 10's. I know there is probably not much of a difference besides the look, but i want my whole setup to be RTi A's. Anyways, i was going to use Tweeters upgrade program to do it, so i could get full price back for my 10's and pay the difference for the A7's, but low and behold Tweeter is no more, so sadly that's out the window right now for me.

I'm still learning the receiver, i haven't had as much time as i'd like to really dig into it so i've just been using the MCACC (auto calibration) setting. Bluray movies and video games sound awesome usually, depending on the movie or game of course, Directv sounds pretty good, though not all the time, and music isn't bad. The thing i'm confused about with music though is that i have to use Pure Direct for a nice full sound, when i put it on stereo it just doesn't seem to have nearly as much life (i'm using the PS3 for CD's if that matters).

After all this time, i'm still a little unsure of how high i can crank up these speakers with this receiver. The highest i'll usually go, say on a movie, is to about -25 through -20. All though sometimes i want to crank it even higher, but don't because i just worry about ruining the speakers and or receiver. Is it safe to go louder?

And another lingering thing on my mind is speaker wire, i bought some cheap 16 gauge wire (RC Royal cable car and home stereo cable) from walmart when i set all this up, and i've had this nagging feeling that i should get better and or thicker gauge wire. I see from other threads that speaker wire is very debatable, but do you think the cheap 16 gauge walmart stuff is fine, or should i go with a thicker gauge and possibly a little better wire? Also, with the current speaker wire i have now, i have it connected to the bottom sets of terminals with no banana plugs or anything. Would banana plugs be a good thing to buy?

Well anyways, this thread is great, and any and all opinions about anything i said or asked in this post will be welcomed (because i'm surely no expert, just a beginner)............Thanks..
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Hey everyone, I have the following set-up and wanted to know what the ideal settings would be for the best sound, etc on the receiver. The room is 15x15

Onkyo-605
Fronts- Monitor 50
Center- CS2
Surrounds- R15

No sub, that that will come soon in the new year, however it will most likely be the BIC H-100.

Is this a good set-up for the room, etc? Any other comments people may have regarding this setup, specs, settings, etc?

Kinda a noob at all this :-)
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Hey metal! Long time no see here. You might remember I also have the RTi10's. I thought for sure you'd have some 7's by now, but no matter, 'cause what you have are some pretty good speaks, IMHO. I'm sure there are many different opinions, but there's an article on Crutchfield that states 16 gauge is fine up to 80 feet, so there's likely no reason to change what you have. Banana plugs are great if you move your stuff around a lot - i.e., no connection quality difference. It's really just a convenience thing.

Trust me, you can keep cranking that AVR up, and you'll harm your ears before you harm your speakers.

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Hey metal! Long time no see here. You might remember I also have the RTi10's. I thought for sure you'd have some 7's by now, but no matter, 'cause what you have are some pretty good speaks, IMHO. I'm sure there are many different opinions, but there's an article on Crutchfield that states 16 gauge is fine up to 80 feet, so there's likely no reason to change what you have. Banana plugs are great if you move your stuff around a lot - i.e., no connection quality difference. It's really just a convenience thing.

Trust me, you can keep cranking that AVR up, and you'll harm your ears before you harm your speakers.

Hey hows it going mdaudioguy!
Yeah i was pretty adamant about wanting those A7's back then, but i just kept putting it off and putting if off. Then when i finally decided to go for it, my Tweeter stores had begun liquidation and couldn't honor their previous trade in policy. Had i only gone in the store a couple days ealier..ughhh lol. Now i'll have to just get some 7's off Polk Audio Direct and sell my 10's privately, but i'll probably go back to putting it off now.. lol. I love the 10's though so either way i'm still happy with my choice.

Thanks for the info on the speaker wire. I have about 50ft going to each rear speaker, and of course not nearly as much going to my fronts, so i guess i should be fine if 16 gauge is good up to 80ft.

One thing though, i finally got around to actually hanging my rears (i had them propped up on boxes on my end tables for the longest time, just couldn't decide where to hang them) but i need some extra wire going to my left rear speaker, because right now the wires kind of going diagonally down the wall to the floor behind my couch (since i put them higher up). From looking at it, it seems i'll need an extra 4-6ft. Would i have to take that speakers wire out and completely re-run it with a new one with added length, or could i just splice into the existing wire and save some hassel without worrying about losing sound quality?

And as far as cranking my AVR, i'm glad to know i can crank it more than i have been without worrying....
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... i need some extra wire going to my left rear speaker, because right now the wires kind of going diagonally down the wall to the floor behind my couch (since i put them higher up). From looking at it, it seems i'll need an extra 4-6ft. Would i have to take that speakers wire out and completely re-run it with a new one with added length, or could i just splice into the existing wire and save some hassel without worrying about losing sound quality?

It's going well, but I still can't keep up with your prolific post rate! If you have some extra wire around, then I'd just go ahead and splice it and save a couple bucks for the time being. Tape it good or use some shrink tube. No big deal. Of course, you'd NEVER do this with $5K speakers.

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I have Polk (cherry) R50 fronts ($199 ea, paid $60 ea/new), Polk (black) CSR center ($199, pd $59 refb'd) and new Polk (black) T15 bookshelf ($100/pr, paid $50/pr new)! The T15's are more similar to the R15 bookshelf (MSRP $179/pr) in specs/size/weight/SNR/wattage, all are exactly the same! I believe Polk and B/B had a deal where Polk would change the facing/grill on the R15, and called it the T15 so nobody could price match that speaker (only my theory). Fact - only Best Buy sells the T15, everybody else including amazon sold (past tense) the R15. The R series originally made 2006 is/has been phased out and I've saved some serious money! I bought the T15's at BestBuy 2 weeks ago for $100/pr. Today (2 weeks later) they're half off, $50/pr + tax. Yes B/B was great about price matching their website within the 30 day return period (kudos to you)! You can also order online but you'll pay tax and s&h...happy hunting! I've yet to hear them all together (onkyo TX-SR806 in the mail) but expect big things from these speakers and receiver in my small room (hence the R series) before Christmas..."jingle bells jingle bells..."


*NOTE* after talking to the techies at Polk, only the crossover was changed from the R15 (24-60Khz) to the T15 (20-64Khz) with the T15 having the wider range. The Onkyo TX-SR806S audio is up and running for all my analog (RCA) components. Video connections to follow, no hurry though as my TV is analog and I wouldn't be gaining anything (yet)!
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It's going well, but I still can't keep up with your prolific post rate! If you have some extra wire around, then I'd just go ahead and splice it and save a couple bucks for the time being. Tape it good or use some shrink tube. No big deal. Of course, you'd NEVER do this with $5K speakers.

I've actually slowed down a bit there for a few months with my prolific post rate, but as i've said before this website is kind of like an addiction...

Yeah i do have some extra wire around, so i'll probably just do as you suggested and splice it, every little bit of money saved counts i suppose, more money to put towards the RTi A7's (eventually) haha. But of course if i had $5k speakers i wouldn't even think of doing this, that just wouldn't be fair to them... I'm not even sure it's fair to my current speakers, but i'll do it anyway...
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Hi, I am new to this forum. I recently bought a single TSi 400 off ebay for $72 shipped. Now I would like to get another one, as cheap as possible, to go with it. The closest match I could find in my price range(I'm on a very tight budget), is a monitor 60. Would this speaker match up pretty well? I would be using them for the fronts. I am also considering saving up and just buying another TSi 400 and then, over time, getting the remaining speakers. I have a 7.1 HK 235 and a pair of paradigm titans,a pair of smaller paradigm bookshelf speakers(unmarked) and a CC v.2. Any ideas or recommendations are welcome. Thanks!
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Not sure if this is allowed but, I just saw a Fry's ad this morning and they have the RTi8's on sale..a very, very good sale.

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Not sure if this is allowed but, I just saw a Fry's ad this morning and they have the RTi8's on sale..a very, very good sale.

They are sold out and have been for awhile. Does anyone know what is up with this? Why run an ad on a product that you dont have in stock.

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Just an FYI guys, and I'm not sure if this is frowned upon, but I have a BNIB pair of black FXi3s sitting in a closet that I was planning to use as rears for a 7.1 setup. I've been to lazy to put them on Ebay but since there don't seem to be any black ones left out there I thought I'd see if anyone here had been looking.
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Just an FYI guys, and I'm not sure if this is frowned upon, but I have a BNIB pair of black FXi3s sitting in a closet that I was planning to use as rears for a 7.1 setup. I've been to lazy to put them on Ebay but since there don't seem to be any black ones left out there I thought I'd see if anyone here had been looking.

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Hi, I am new to this forum. I recently bought a single TSi 400 off ebay for $72 shipped. Now I would like to get another one, as cheap as possible, to go with it. The closest match I could find in my price range(I'm on a very tight budget), is a monitor 60. Would this speaker match up pretty well? I would be using them for the fronts. I am also considering saving up and just buying another TSi 400 and then, over time, getting the remaining speakers. I have a 7.1 HK 235 and a pair of paradigm titans,a pair of smaller paradigm bookshelf speakers(unmarked) and a CC v.2. Any ideas or recommendations are welcome. Thanks!

Go with Plan B -- SAVE! You would never be happy with mismatched mains.

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I have a BNIB pair of black FXi3s sitting in a closet....

Dang it! Where were you about 6 months ago?

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