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post #121 of 536 Old 09-19-2006, 06:37 PM
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I am considering the MC-616 speakers as LCR for my home theater but am also looking at Sonance, NHT, and Atlantic Technologies. Any feedback on the MC-616's...has anyone had to opportunity to compare to any of the others I am considering?

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Bchav,

The MC-616C's are a great choice for LCRs. Along with their inwall counterparts, they have become standard fare in all our modest priced installs. And for future reference, what other manufacturer offers an inwall/inceiling that so precisely matches their enclosed mains/center counterparts? This can be very important in tight spaced theaters.

Just as important, RBH is a first-rate company run by professionals who still believe in customer service.

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Ben,

Thanks for the input. I am trying to make my final decision between RBH and Sonance. The RBH sales guys was very helpful on the phone and is going to send me a dealer list in my local area so that I can listen to their product.

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I own a pair of MC 6 CTs and I am looking to add a pair of surrounds for my bedroom setup. Since the bed is against the back wall I am not sure which RBH I should consider.

My first question is should the speakers be mounted on the back wall or the side walls? The side walls are about 4-5 feet from the edges of the bed.

The models I am considering are the 44-SEs or the in wall MC 6 DB.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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I own a pair of MC 6 CTs and I am looking to add a pair of surrounds for my bedroom setup. Since the bed is against the back wall I am not sure which RBH I should consider.

My first question is should the speakers be mounted on the back wall or the side walls? The side walls are about 4-5 feet from the edges of the bed.

The models I am considering are the 44-SEs or the in wall MC 6 DB.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

In this scenario I would probably go with the in-wall MC series, as the driver array is the same and the inwalls have an adjustable position tweeter, so you can help dial them in a bit. The 44-SEs are great speakers--but I think it really depends on where your primary listening position is going to be. If it's the bed, then you might benefit more from a direct radiating setup as you'll be so close and generally with the 44-SEs you want to mound them up higher and away directly to the sides of the primary listening position for 5.1, but if you're right against the back wall then there's little room for the signal to bounce of the rear wall and then hit your ears, as your head is probably 12" from the back wall?

Another alternative for a bedroom surround that would probably work well would be a pair of the compact theater speakers--the MM4: http://www.rbhsound.com/mm4.shtml

Mount a couple of those on the wall in the upper read corners angled down toward the bed and they'd probably sound great and would be much cheaper than the 44-SEs. They come in black and white...
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I would also be interested in the stands you have and also the brand of stand that RBH uses if yuo have the time to find out.
Jamie

Sorry I haven't been able to respond on this or provide pictures. I forgot that I lent my stands to the guy who bought my old T2 system and I hadn't gotten them back. I just spoke to him Saturday and he's supposed to get them to me soon, so once I get them back I'll see if I can find out the manufacturer and send pics. Thanks.
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I am also open to suggestions on these as well, my only concern is the size of the top plate as I will have a baby crawling around soon and don't want them to fall off and crush his head!

I had the same concerns with my T-1's as they are very large and heavy. I ended up with 4-post Sound Anchor stands for stability, but they are an expensive option...

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Another alternative for a bedroom surround that would probably work well would be a pair of the compact theater speakers--the MM4: http://www.rbhsound.com/mm4.shtml

Mount a couple of those on the wall in the upper read corners angled down toward the bed and they'd probably sound great and would be much cheaper than the 44-SEs. They come in black and white...

Am I correct in saying that I should mount them on the side walls, firing in towards the listening position?

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Sorry for self promotion but I thought this may be of some interest to the folks on this thread or those investigating RBH speakers for their system.

Click here:

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.p...164998817&item


Thanks for looking and I apologize for spamming the group.



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Am I correct in saying that I should mount them on the side walls, firing in towards the listening position?

If you go with direct radiating / monopole speakers you should mount them behind the primary listening position on the back wall or one the side wall (as long as they're behind you). Place one to your left and one to your right behind your firing in and down (if mounted high) towards the primary listening position. In general you want to keep the tweeters within 6 inches above or below your ears; otherwise, you should angle the speaker towards your ears.

Sorry about the long delay in responding...

BTW, if anyone is interested in a good deal on a one used 661-SE in South American Rosewood let me know.

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What speaker cables have people used with their RBHs? Any specific characteristics one would look for in a cable to match them well?

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Hi, RBH lovers!!!

After reading a lot of reviews, I can consider myself, even without listening, a lover too.
I am planning on buying a 661se/r for center and 44se for surround, for now.
Can anybody send me a pm with dealers? No matter the state, as I expect them to ship internationally.
Who knows I will be the first brazillian to have one of these babies...
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The best way to find out about dealers for RBH is to call RBH. You can talk to any one on their sales team (Jared, Preston, Gary). Their number is 800-543-2205.
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What is this: "Secret Handshake" you guys talk about?

I know there are dealers on this forum. So here it is: if any of you dealers would quote me 661ser and a pair of 66se / 44se, it would be mostly appreciated.
Please, PM.
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I'm also in the market for 5 MC-616's for fitting out my living room. I've found an online liquidator to buy them online, but wouldn't mind hearing from other dealers. Where do you guys buy your RBH stuff from? Also, for a 800 ft^2 room with 10ft ceilings, will I need a sub to get adequate bass from this setup? The -3dB 50Hz cutoff is probably fine, but how quickly do they roll off below that? I have space to install an SI-10 if needed, but could also spend those dollars on a better receiver instead.

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I'm about to pull the trigger on a set of RBH speakers for a new 5.1 HT setup. The setup I've been considering is:

L/R - MC-884 (This isn't on the RBH website. It's basically MC-83 with an extra 8" woofer.)
C - MC-616C
Surround - MC-83
Sub - TS-10AP (This will be in the TV console. Not enough room for the TS-12AP.)

I'll be driving them with an Onkyo TX-SR703 AVR. My room is 20x15 with a cathedral ceiling open to the second floor.

My thought has been to go with the MC-884/MC-83 pairs because I have so much room volume to fill. And also because I'm forced into the smaller subwoofer. (I considered getting the SI-12F in-floor subwoofer, but I don't have a good place to put it and I'm hesitant to cut up my floor.)

However, I wonder if the big speakers are overkill, especially the surrounds. My biggest worry is whether the bigger speakers are going to be more prone to triggering resonances in the walls to which they are mounted.

Any thoughts/insights?

Thanks.

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Update: I went ahead with the above purchase and installed everything over New Year's weekend. Sounds great with my system, however I'm no audio snob so I may be too easily pleased.

I've noticed no problem with wall resonances. I installed the MC-884s about 1.5" from the stud on one side in hopes of providing additional rigidity. I don't know if it really made a difference. I ran a bead of caulk along the stud/drywall corners to help to stiffen things up, but I discovered that my builder had used Liquid Nails for the drywall install so the caulk was overkill.
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Owners of RBH seem absent on this thread lately... I think they are too happy listening to their speakers and have no time left to put some comments here...
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HEY! Is this thread still alive? I am investigating a RBH Sound CT-5.1 system for my main PC. I would be replacing an AR HC6 system. The 5-channel amp is an ATIK 1505. Anyone have any thoughts? PM me with "where to buy suggestions.

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I think it's a good thought,... I use an MC-414C, four MC-4C, and a TS-10AP on my computer.

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I'm interested in the RBH in-wall models. My budget is around $500-700, and I just need a solid pair for an 18x12x10 room.
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Today I committed to putting RBH speakers in my new HT that I am building. As you have mentioned it is hard to do much research on them but what I HAVE read is all very positive. I live in Utah and my local HT specialists highly recommends them, not to mention I like to support Utah business!

If y'all don't mind, I was just hoping to run my speaker package by you and get a general "thumbs up/down" to give me some peace of mind since I haven't even heard them yet!

7.1 system (Yamaha RXV1700 AVR)
Center: MC-616
Front: MC-83
Rear Surround: MC-6DB
Rear effects: MC-615
Sub: MS-10.1

I am also having the A-505R's installed in 5 rooms for distributed audio, A-509's in the rec room (pool, air hockey kind of area - empty for now!!) adjacent the HT room (which is not a fully enclosed room) for stereo "overflow" from the HT room when desired, and lastly AWS-6's installed on the deck for our "outdoor listening pleasure."

So, did I do well? I really hoping for an emphatic YES!!

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Today I committed to putting RBH speakers in my new HT that I am building. As you have mentioned it is hard to do much research on them but what I HAVE read is all very positive. I live in Utah and my local HT specialists highly recommends them, not to mention I like to support Utah business!

If y'all don't mind, I was just hoping to run my speaker package by you and get a general "thumbs up/down" to give me some peace of mind since I haven't even heard them yet!

7.1 system (Yamaha RXV1700 AVR)
Center: MC-616
Front: MC-83
Rear Surround: MC-6DB
Rear effects: MC-615
Sub: MS-10.1

I am also having the A-505R's installed in 5 rooms for distributed audio, A-509's in the rec room (pool, air hockey kind of area - empty for now!!) adjacent the HT room (which is not a fully enclosed room) for stereo "overflow" from the HT room when desired, and lastly AWS-6's installed on the deck for our "outdoor listening pleasure."

So, did I do well? I really hoping for an emphatic YES!!

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I am current owner of a t-2 system with center channel 661 and two rear 61. I am going to be selling these very soon. I have owned them for about 2 years and they are in mint condition. They are in the basic black ( couldn't afford the wood finish) I am going to post on the speakers for sale thread soon. Just thought I would see if there is any feed back, because I am going to sell them at a very reasonable price. I live in Las Vegas, and after the ces show will post the sale. I am upgrading to the t30 system after I hear them at the show.
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I am working with a professional home AV installer, Matt of Silicon Valley Installation. I have a built-in entertainment unit that came with the house when I bought it. It's a large, beautiful custom built maple wood unit but a poor design for a HT. The entertainment unit sits on a cherry stained wood floor. Go to http://new.photos.yahoo.com/richgo@sbcglobal.net to see 2 pics of the Entertainment Unit with dimensions. The TV in the pics is a Pansonic 58" plasma. The entertainment unit is in the family room. The family room is ~25 feet long but flows into the kitchen/dinette area so the area is one large open space. The ceiling in the family room is ~14 feet high and drops down so that the ceiling in the kitchen/dinette area is ~ 10 feet high.

Matt's recommendations:

L&R speakers:
RBH 641-SE http://www.rbhsound.com/641se.shtml for the L & R towers.

Subwoofer:
Instead of a separate subwoofer (because of room layout constraints), he recommends using the 2 of the RBH 200 watt subwoofer amps (one for each tower). http://rbhsound.com/sa200.shtml I presume there is a way to bi-amp the towers so that the woofers in each tower are separately driven by their own subwoofer amp.

Center speaker:
RBH 441-SE http://rbhsound.com/441se.shtml The center speaker unfortunately will be sitting on top of the entertainment unit but will be angled down toward the listening area.

Rear Surrounds:
There are two flush mounted in-ceiling speakers already installed that came with the house. I thnk they may be JBL's and probably 8" or 10" woofer/tweeter combos.

Receiver;
Denon AVR-2807.

I am requesting feedback/suggestions on Matt's recommendations.

Thanks and Happy New Year!

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RBH Lover here....MC-6CT,661-SE,1010-SEP.
I'm looking to purchase 66-SE Surrounds
can anyone recommend a dealer .
I'll even consider used.
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At a dealers suggestion I purchased an RBH MS 81 Subwoofer. I have a Onkyo TX-Ds575X and a Panasonic TH 42PX600U TV and Bose acusto mass 3 up front a Bose center and JBL's in the rear.
This is what I have an don't have the coin to change much. sounds like you might be able to help me hook all this up.
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L&R speakers:
RBH 641-SE http://www.rbhsound.com/641se.shtml for the L & R towers.
Subwoofer:
Instead of a separate subwoofer (because of room layout constraints), he recommends using the 2 of the RBH 200 watt subwoofer amps (one for each tower). http://rbhsound.com/sa200.shtml I presume there is a way to bi-amp the towers so that the woofers in each tower are separately driven by their own subwoofer amp.

Don't think I would do that with the 641's,... maybe with 1044's or 1266's. Yes, all Signature Series have 5 way binding posts and are bi-ampable.


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Center speaker:
RBH 441-SE http://rbhsound.com/441se.shtml The center speaker unfortunately will be sitting on top of the entertainment unit but will be angled down toward the listening area.

Should be fine.

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Hope you'll allow me to join your club.

T-30LSE's (phenomenal speakers!)
T-1SE/R on order
SI-760R's for the rest.

Anthem AVM50 + MCA50 (temporary use)
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Hope you'll allow me to join your club.

T-30LSE's (phenomenal speakers!)
T-1SE/R on order
SI-760R's for the rest.

Anthem AVM50 + MCA50 (temporary use)

Nice setup. ^

I am joining the rbh crowd too.

The three 661-SE + two 66-SEs are due to arrive and replace my older model Klipsch reference mains and surrounds a week from today.

JL Fathom 113 sub + Arcam AVR350 + Arcam DV29.
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Can anyone offer opinions on the MC-414 versus the MC-616? I have run into an issue in constructing my home theatre room. I had plans to install 3 MC-616's across the front, and just got them today. In looking at the frame and more closely at my walls, I realized I don't have enough room between studs where my left channel is going for a 616 (I have only 8 inches). To get the 616 to fit, I'd have to modify the wall or potentially the speaker's back frame on one side and attach it directly to the stud itself. I am wondering what I'd be sacrificing in sending back the 616's in favour of the 414's (which would fit in the 8" opening!). FYI, I had planned to (eventually) go with MC-615's for my rear/surrounds, though will continue to use 2 Paradigm dipoles in the interim. Any opinions from those in the know would be much appreciated.
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