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Hello everyone.

If anyone is not using their OMD-5 wall mounts, I would like to buy 2 from you.

I need to put my surrounds up on the wall.

Thank you.

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Hello everyone.

If anyone is not using their OMD-5 wall mounts, I would like to buy 2 from you.

I need to put my surrounds up on the wall.

Thank you.

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I believe I may be able to spare 2. PM me with an offer.

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The M3si's are truly great speakers. My brother used to have them and they never failed to impress. They are worth a retrofit if not too complicated or too costly.
They are truly great. I have a pair of M5si speakers (owned for 15 years) and they don't make 'em like that any more.
I would never sell them. They are in a stereo only setup, and the way they disappear in a room and surround you
with sound is remarkable.

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Who has heard both the M(1/3/5)si's and the OMD-28s? Anyone running the si's in an Atmos setup? I would love to read your thoughts. I have only heard the Omniguide line of Mirage speakers.

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I believe I may be able to spare 2. PM me with an offer.

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Marc, I sent you a Paypal pmt. Thanks. Nick
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Who has heard both the M(1/3/5)si's and the OMD-28s? Anyone running the si's in an Atmos setup? I would love to read your thoughts. I have only heard the Omniguide line of Mirage speakers.

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I haven't listened to the new OMD line but am very familiar with the Si and OM line and personally would not use the Si series for HT for a few reasons, number one mainly being fear of blowing a driver since replacements are unobtanium. The other reason would be the amount of high current power needed to safely use them in a HT environment. The 1 and 3 especially. They are not efficient speakers and if used with a under powered HT receiver, you are asking to smoke the tweeters.

Mirage still has parts for the OMD line so that would be a much safer better.
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FYI, if anyone has OMD fronts I have put up my 4 OMD-Rs for sale. Will probably be putting them on ebay in a week.

HT: Sony VPL-HW55ES, Screen Innovations 110" motorized Black Diamond, Samsung PN51F8500, Mirage OMD-28/OMD-C2, Revel W873 x 4 surrounds, Revel C763L x 4 heights, Hsu VTF-15 x 2, Anthem AVM-60, NHT Power5 / Marantz MM8003, Denon DBT-1713UD, DirecTV HR-34 Genie

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I haven't listened to the new OMD line but am very familiar with the Si and OM line and personally would not use the Si series for HT for a few reasons, number one mainly being fear of blowing a driver since replacements are unobtanium. The other reason would be the amount of high current power needed to safely use them in a HT environment. The 1 and 3 especially. They are not efficient speakers and if used with a under powered HT receiver, you are asking to smoke the tweeters.

Mirage still has parts for the OMD line so that would be a much safer better.
The OMD-28s and C2 also need a ton of high current power 💪. I am running over 500W each.

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Anyone here ever mod a Mirage MM6 amp? I want to re-purpose it to drive a bass shaker and need to remove the high pass filter
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Do mirage speakers ever show up on Woot anymore?
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Do mirage speakers ever show up on Woot anymore?
No

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That's a crying shame.. 😢

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That's a crying shame.. 😢

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I already did, too expensive. I'll stick with my Martin Logan ESL's.

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After reading the speaker forums for a few days my head is spinning as usual. I guess I just need to embrace my Omni 260 set up for a while longer. Has anyone recovered the grills? Mine are showing some age.
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I am looking for a pair of OMD-5s in Maple or Rosewood or OS3s in white. I had several pairs of Rosewood that I sold. But, now my wife wants a pair in the kitchen (we recently installed Denon Heos).

I had made a deal for a pair of maple but when the seller was packing them his wife saw them and claimed them (my wife was pissed).

I am willing to buy outright or trade. I have a pair of black OMD-5s, Rosewood OMD-15s, Omnican 5s & 6s, a pair of OC-55s, and a pair of outdoor Oasis Omnis in black for trade.
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Help with mounting OMNI 150s

Just scored a new unopened pair of Omni 150s on CL, very excited to hear these unusual gems from an earlier era. I'm using them for stereo music (not home theater) with a sub. I'm seeking input and advice on how best to hang'em on this wall in my small living room (photo: s30.postimg.org/xmpuhbq29/Image_1_2.jpg *) below high sloped ceilings. (Since this is such an old topic mainly discussed '07-'12, I'm tagging users whose comments in this forum suggest they own or are otherwise familiar with these speakers.)

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I'm hopeful that these omni-polar speakers will help overcome the unideal room layout. I will mount them above the door and window at about 8 feet, roughly 6 feet apart with the right speaker about 2 feet from the side wall. I will mount them upside down into studs using the 3/8" threaded holes on the back. The originally spec'd Macromounts (speakerwallmounts.net/mirage-macromount-white-pr-wall-ceiling-mount-brackets-for.html) are no longer available.

So I'm considering three mounting options:

(1) flush-mount directly on the wall, shooting straight out (though upside-down so the sloped top is facing down), by rigging them to something like this Hangman product (hangmanproducts.com/collections/tv-speaker-mounts/products/speaker-bar-speaker-hangers?variant=233500640),

(2) mounting them off-wall about 3.5" and tilted slightly downwards using a pair of Vantage Point Bookshelf Speaker Mounts (thinkvp.com/products16-43/BookshelfSpeakerMountsPair), or

(3) using half of a split-ring pipe hanger as cleverly devised by JeffStickney (avsforum.com/forum/89-speakers/624030-mirage-speakers-99.html#post16808293).

QUESTIONS:

Which mounting system do you think would offer me the best sound? Do these speakers perform best mounted directly to a wall, or with a few inches of space behind them?

My assumption is that their omni-polar distribution makes precise placement for soundstage less important. Note that these speakers have no rear port and a relatively light bass section. I understand that, generally, placing loadspeakers closer to a wall emphasizes the bass -- would mounting them directly to a wall therefore improve the low-end performance? Does the fact that they were spec'd to use the Macromounts, which provide a couple inches space from the wall, indicate that that is the optimal way to mount them (in which case, option 3 would be best)? If I use the Vantage Point mounts, would you suggest aiming them downwards since they are so far above ear-level (or does the sloped head now aiming downwards provide plenty of vertical distribution)? Would you also recommend toe-in (again, their omnidirectional distribution would seem to suggest that toe-in isn't as helpful as it would be with regular front-shooting stereo speakers)?

Thanks for any input !
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Are the Emotiva XPA 2/3 Gen 3 amps powerful enough to drive the OMD-28's and C2? Or a Crown XLS 2002 be a better buy? Thanks.

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Are the Emotiva XPA 2/3 Gen 3 amps powerful enough to drive the OMD-28's and C2? Or a Crown XLS 2002 be a better buy? Thanks.
Hello, i think you are going to find that most people will recommend a pairs XPA-1's for the OMD-28. I initially bought the XPA-2 G2 (300wpc) for my 28's and it was a fantastic upgrade over the receiver's output. But the amp wasn't able to keep up at higher volume. This was with music, watching movie's the XPA-2 was great because i wasn't cranking up the volume. (i had the XPA-100 (200watts?) for the C2 already).

So going with the XPA-3 G3 would be nice if you are mainly a movie watcher, imo. Music would be fine too, you just can't crank it up and let your neighbors enjoy it too. By that i mean you might start to here some distortion at higher volumes, this is a volume that most people don't want to listen to music to anyway.

The 2002 is only a 2-channel (looks like 375wpc), what would power the C2? I am not that familiar with these amps, looks like they are Class D versus AB for Emo amps, so a little research into what the difference there is would be in order.

(all wpc are mentioned at 8 ohm)

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Anybody know where I can get schematics for OM-5 speakers?
Any luck? I would like them too. Did you try Klipsch?
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Are the Emotiva XPA 2/3 Gen 3 amps powerful enough to drive the OMD-28's and C2? Or a Crown XLS 2002 be a better buy? Thanks.
I have these exact speakers across the front. Powered them with a first gen XPA-3 for years. It was a vast improvement over an AVR's built-in amps. Just bought a new XPA-2 gen 3 for the 28's. Going to use the XPA-3 to drive center and surrounds. Been out of town for a couple weeks so haven't had time to really break it in yet but I think it'll be more than enough power at 550 watts per channel into 4 ohms. The 28's are 6 ohm IIRC, so that should make it 425 wpc. I considered the XPA-1's but don't really have the budget or space for 2 monoblocks and I think they'd be overkill for my 12x20 theater room.

Projector: Epson 5040UB | Pre/Pro: Anthem AVR 60 | Amplification: Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 3 for Mains, Emotiva XPA-3 Gen 1 for Center and Surrounds, Emotiva A-700 for Front/Rear Heights, Rear Surrounds | 7.1.4 Speaker Setup: 2 Mirage OMD-28 Mains, Mirage OMD-C2 Center, 4 Mirage OM-R2 Side and Rear Surrounds, 4 B&W M1 Front/Rear Heights | Sub: Velodyne DD-15
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Are the Emotiva XPA 2/3 Gen 3 amps powerful enough to drive the OMD-28's and C2? Or a Crown XLS 2002 be a better buy? Thanks.
IME you want to feed the OMD-28s a minimum of 500W. 300W is enough for the C2.

Amplifiers I have personally tested which are capable of powering the 28s:

H/K Citation 7.1 (THX) bridged mode
2x NAD 2700 THX bridged
2x NAD 2200 bridged
Crown X3000/XLi2500
Crown X4000/XLi3500

I have settled on 2 Citation 7.1s and 2 Citation 5.1s as the best sounding. I have sold my Crown X3000. I have 2 Crown x4000s, 2 NAD 2700, and 2 NAD 2200s for sale.

I surmise that the Emotiva XPS-1s & XPA-1s will outperform the bridged C0itation 7.1s.

I would like to try 2 H/K Signature 1.5s bridged but they are so hard to come by!

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