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Def Tech will tell you pretty much any of their CCs timber match any of their other speakers. I would completely avoid the 1000, very small and small = small sound. The 2000 would be OK, but unless you have space issues I wouldn't settle for anything less than a used 2002.


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Baja has the 2002 as well. I'd buy from them just for the cust service and warranty/return policy.


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Def Tech BP7001Sc Towers. Def Tech Mythos 10 center . 2 Velodyne Subs HGS 10. and 8 Mirage Omni Pole Nano stat surrounds for my 11.2 set up . I had run source technologies for my surrounds but wanted to save space and these sound great in that set up
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Thanks for all the valuable input.Would a procenter 1000-2000 work with my bp8's.
I am currently using the PC2000 with BP8b mains and PM1000 surrounds and rears.

IMO the match is near optimum. The PC2000 uses the same size and similarly-voiced drivers as the BP8b, and is an amazingly robust speaker that plays loud and goes plenty low to work very well with an 80Hz crossover.

I wouldn't consider a PC1000, however, unless the system was not going to be pushed very hard.

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Thanks for all the valuable input from my fellow def tech owners.I will probaly go with Pc-2000 or a cs8040 as the clr2002 is hard to find.
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Thanks for all the valuable input from my fellow def tech owners.I will probaly go with Pc-2000 or a cs8040 as the clr2002 is hard to find.
Watch e-bay for one of these:
PC-2000
C/L/R 2000
C/L/R 2002
C/L/R 2300 (powered sub)
C-1
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Any of these can be had at times for a pretty good price, shame I didn't catch your post earlier, I just sold a PC-2000, any of the above should be a good match.
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Should I change up my surround speakers?

I currently have a 5.1 system consisting of 3 SM 65's across the front and SM 45's as rears. I like the 45's as rears just fine but I like the idea of wall mounting the surrounds the the 8040bp or 8080bp would be much easier to do so. As far as voice matching the 65s do I have anything to worry with either the 8080bp or 8040bp?
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Should I change up my surround speakers?

I currently have a 5.1 system consisting of 3 SM 65's across the front and SM 45's as rears. I like the 45's as rears just fine but I like the idea of wall mounting the surrounds the the 8040bp or 8080bp would be much easier to do so. As far as voice matching the 65s do I have anything to worry with either the 8080bp or 8040bp?

I have 8080s with my 65s and they are just fine. Def Tech will tell you they will both match.

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I need advice.I picked my bp8 I bought on ebay.I pulled sock down and the tweeter is a soft dome all black tweeter.They sound and look great.My question are mine the bp8 or newer bp8b version.I have looked and can't find a difinitive answer to this question. I got a procenter c-2 to hold me over until I get a good price on the cs-8040.I am going with the 8040 as I plan to get 8060 st in the near future.Any input is welcomed.
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I need advice.I picked my bp8 I bought on ebay.I pulled sock down and the tweeter is a soft dome all black tweeter.They sound and look great.My question are mine the bp8 or newer bp8b version.I have looked and can't find a difinitive answer to this question. I got a procenter c-2 to hold me over until I get a good price on the cs-8040.I am going with the 8040 as I plan to get 8060 st in the near future.Any input is welcomed.
Soft dome tweeters are the old, non-B versions. The newer B-versions have the metal tweeter.

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Hello all,

Just starting to think of the next phase of my HT. I just moved and will likely be knocking out a wall in the living room, so I'm not even to the point of actual measurements or dimensions yet...regardless...

I currently have a 3.2 setup:

SM45 (L/R)
SM65 (C)
Dayton 1200 SW (x2)

all powered by a Denon AVRX1000

It was a starter setup last winter and I'm very happy with it vs my old HT system which consisted of a sammy soundbar/SW lol. However, I really do want a lot more visceral experience here. I want a lot louder and more detail/depth. well, as much as i can get within budget and a 5.1.

I'll likely be moving the 45's to the rear. I'm trying to decide if I want to get a new L/R (floor speakers now that i have the room) and keep the 65 as the center, or if I should just get another 65 and use those as L/R and buy a new center...

I imagine I'm going to run out of AVR with the X1000 at some point...but honestly i have no idea when that will be.

If we are talking new L/R i'd like to stay in the 1500 range for the pair.

Regardless, I'll be reading a ton over the next few months and trying to better define what I need/want. This setup is pretty much 60 TV/Movie, 35 Game, 5% Music...

Thanks for reading!
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Match to BP2006TL

Hello everyone. My dad recently upgraded his system and passed his bp2006tl towers down to me. I currently have a older Sony 5.1 setup. I have hooked up my bp2006's, and I'm loving them. I have been looking, and it looks like the clr2300 is the recommended center channel for these towers. However, it looks like they are no longer available anywhere. I am looking to add the best matched center channel and rear surrounds for these bp2006's. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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Tbone, I have one for sale.. i replaced mine, but never got a chance to put it up for sale. It works perfect and from a non smoker home. Let me know if your interested.
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Hello everyone. My dad recently upgraded his system and passed his bp2006tl towers down to me. I currently have a older Sony 5.1 setup. I have hooked up my bp2006's, and I'm loving them. I have been looking, and it looks like the clr2300 is the recommended center channel for these towers. However, it looks like they are no longer available anywhere. I am looking to add the best matched center channel and rear surrounds for these bp2006's. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!


I have owned the 2300 twice and now the 8080. I still have my 2006 towers in another room. My one caution with any of the powered CCs is that if you can't leave the space above them open, ie don't put in a cabinet or under a TV stand, then get a CLR2002, PC2000 or CS8040. I owned the second 2300 and 8080 at the same time and will tell you that for the money, the 2300 is the better deal. If it wasn't for my obsession for perfection and wanting matching drivers across the front, the 2300 was fine. Nobody else would be able to tell the difference. If you can get a used one for a good price take it.

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I have come across a great deal on a pair of 8020st.I'm thinking about buying them to replace the bp8 i just got and moving bp8 to use as surrounds.My question is the 8020st a good upgrade from bp8 for the mains.I also would like to thank all the comments i got on center speaker recommendations.I ended up getting a C-2 off E-bay for a great price.Any opinions on 8020st is welcome.
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I have come across a great deal on a pair of 8020st.I'm thinking about buying them to replace the bp8 i just got and moving bp8 to use as surrounds.My question is the 8020st a good upgrade from bp8 for the mains.I also would like to thank all the comments i got on center speaker recommendations.I ended up getting a C-2 off E-bay for a great price.Any opinions on 8020st is welcome.

Unless you have space issues, I would say the 8020s are not a good upgrade. The 5.25 drivers are way better than the 3.25 in the 8020 and the cabinet will make up the difference. If you had a way to try them right next to your BP8s, that would be best. However, I would keep the 8s and get some PM80/100s or 800/1000s for your surrounds.

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LowellG,
Thanks for your valuable insight.I don't have space issues I just want to get some super towers for my mains.In your opinion would bp 7006s be an upgrade from my bp8 s.Any help on this is greatly appreciated.
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I have come across a great deal on a pair of 8020st.I'm thinking about buying them to replace the bp8 i just got and moving bp8 to use as surrounds.My question is the 8020st a good upgrade from bp8 for the mains.I also would like to thank all the comments i got on center speaker recommendations.I ended up getting a C-2 off E-bay for a great price.Any opinions on 8020st is welcome.
The 8020ST has a powered 8" bass driver. Don't think of it as a subwoofer, but as the woofer in a three-way system. Looked at that way, the 3.5" drivers become strictly midrange drivers, and the tweeters are of course the newer aluminum dome designs (compared to the cloth domes in your BP8-not-b towers). The 8020 has two forward-facing 3.5" drivers; the BP8 has a single 5.5" driver facing forward. They will sound different, but one design is not inherently superior to the other.

Still, if you have a separate subwoofer, the differences between the BP8 and the BP8020ST will not be overwhelming. They will both provide about the same coverage of similar-sized rooms (assuming a separate sub). You may prefer the sound of one over the other, but it will be a matter of taste, not outright performance. They are both good speakers.

I have BP8b as my mains in a system with a PC2000 and two subs. Personally, if I were looking for a substantial upgrade, I would look much higher in the line than the BP8020ST.

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Hello all,

Just starting to think of the next phase of my HT. I just moved and will likely be knocking out a wall in the living room, so I'm not even to the point of actual measurements or dimensions yet...regardless...

I currently have a 3.2 setup:

SM45 (L/R)
SM65 (C)
Dayton 1200 SW (x2)

all powered by a Denon AVRX1000

It was a starter setup last winter and I'm very happy with it vs my old HT system which consisted of a sammy soundbar/SW lol. However, I really do want a lot more visceral experience here. I want a lot louder and more detail/depth. well, as much as i can get within budget and a 5.1.

I'll likely be moving the 45's to the rear. I'm trying to decide if I want to get a new L/R (floor speakers now that i have the room) and keep the 65 as the center, or if I should just get another 65 and use those as L/R and buy a new center...

I imagine I'm going to run out of AVR with the X1000 at some point...but honestly i have no idea when that will be.

If we are talking new L/R i'd like to stay in the 1500 range for the pair.

Regardless, I'll be reading a ton over the next few months and trying to better define what I need/want. This setup is pretty much 60 TV/Movie, 35 Game, 5% Music...

Thanks for reading!
No opinions on using SM65's for L/R and getting a different center vs using SM65 as center and buying different L/R? Or, a better option than the two of those? I suppose I'll ask DT directly, as well.

Regardless, thanks for the input if you have any.
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IMO, as good as a 3-65/2-45 system would be, it would more depend on where your wanting to get your speakers than which, as good a the SM-65's are if you have the room for towers and like DefTech. you can get some great deals on E-Bay or locally on Craigslist and a pair of towers with built in subs will put the the system in another level. That being said you'll want to make sure that any tower your looking at has at least 5.25 drivers for the optimum match with your center.
My .02, hopefully someone else will chime in.
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Hello all,

Just starting to think of the next phase of my HT. I just moved and will likely be knocking out a wall in the living room, so I'm not even to the point of actual measurements or dimensions yet...regardless...

I currently have a 3.2 setup:

SM45 (L/R)
SM65 (C)
Dayton 1200 SW (x2)

all powered by a Denon AVRX1000

It was a starter setup last winter and I'm very happy with it vs my old HT system which consisted of a sammy soundbar/SW lol. However, I really do want a lot more visceral experience here. I want a lot louder and more detail/depth. well, as much as i can get within budget and a 5.1.

I'll likely be moving the 45's to the rear. I'm trying to decide if I want to get a new L/R (floor speakers now that i have the room) and keep the 65 as the center, or if I should just get another 65 and use those as L/R and buy a new center...

I imagine I'm going to run out of AVR with the X1000 at some point...but honestly i have no idea when that will be.

If we are talking new L/R i'd like to stay in the 1500 range for the pair.

Regardless, I'll be reading a ton over the next few months and trying to better define what I need/want. This setup is pretty much 60 TV/Movie, 35 Game, 5% Music...

Thanks for reading!
When I was shopping for my Def Tech's I almost bought a used 7002 right at your price point. I ended up for a pair of used 8060's for that amount. If you want slam and impact and stay in the Def. Tech. family, you may want to consider going used and getting a larger tower.
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When I was shopping for my Def Tech's I almost bought a used 7002 right at your price point. I ended up for a pair of used 8060's for that amount. If you want slam and impact and stay in the Def. Tech. family, you may want to consider going used and getting a larger tower.
While not necessarily strict on staying with DT's for the front stage, my main concern would be maintaining balance if mixing brands. Although I'm no audiophile, by a looong shot, so perhaps it won't be much of a concern after all.

Room dimensions are as follows:

• 17’L x 11.5’W x 8’H
• Eventually knocking out a wall for:
o 17’L x 23’W x 8’H

My concern with getting some floor standing units, is running out of AVR with the base model Denon x-1000. I don't need much for bells&whistles on my AVR, but enough juice to throw out to each channel is, again, something i know little about.

Thank you everyone for your input.
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That's the great thing about the built in subs with power, it allows you to use a lesser powered receiver and still get the "ooomph".
I wouldn't give up my 2000's for anything.
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The more i look into things, the more those 8080St's look good to me. While they are outside of my initial budget...there are deals out there and i think 2kish for a pair would be acceptable to me.

A few concerns there.
1. what to do with the SM65 i'm currently using as a center? would it be compatible enough with the ST's I wonder.
(obvious answer is to keep it until I feel the need to perhaps get the CS8080)

2. what to do with the 2 external SW's i'm running? Those 8080ST's have built in SW's...my budget Daytons, while great bang/buck, may be a bit outclassed I'm thinking, and may struggle to keep up/balance with the ST's.
(obvious answer is just keep them as the .2 and see how it sounds...more is better...right? haha)

3. with the SM45's as the rear surrounds...I can't help but get the feeling I'm just slowly going down the road of swapping everything out for the 8080 series...I think if I ever replace the center SM65 with the CS8080...it's all over...


I think my main concerns, as of now, are the balance between the ST's and the SM65 as the center...and the fact that I've started down this road in the first place lol
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Thanks for your valuable insight.I don't have space issues I just want to get some super towers for my mains.In your opinion would bp 7006s be an upgrade from my bp8 s.Any help on this is greatly appreciated.
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In one of my rooms I have the old 2006s, the 7006s have and advantage over them with the MTM arrangement up front where mine is just the MT. Also, the sub is upgraded. So is it better than the BP8s, probably a little, but I don't know if it's enough. What are you going to do with the 8s. They would be hard to place as surrounds, but if you have the room why not. The one thing I wish somebody told me are maybe they did and I didn't listed was stop upgrading your towers and upgrade you subs. Once I went to 2 PSA XS30s over my SVS PB12 it made a huge difference. I probably could have skipped 2 sets of speaker upgrades looking for the right combo.


Step back for a second and answer this question. What is it you feel you are missing since you want to upgrade? What do you hope to gain?

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The more i look into things, the more those 8080St's look good to me. While they are outside of my initial budget...there are deals out there and i think 2kish for a pair would be acceptable to me.

A few concerns there.
1. what to do with the SM65 i'm currently using as a center? would it be compatible enough with the ST's I wonder.
(obvious answer is to keep it until I feel the need to perhaps get the CS8080)

2. what to do with the 2 external SW's i'm running? Those 8080ST's have built in SW's...my budget Daytons, while great bang/buck, may be a bit outclassed I'm thinking, and may struggle to keep up/balance with the ST's.
(obvious answer is just keep them as the .2 and see how it sounds...more is better...right? haha)

3. with the SM45's as the rear surrounds...I can't help but get the feeling I'm just slowly going down the road of swapping everything out for the 8080 series...I think if I ever replace the center SM65 with the CS8080...it's all over...


I think my main concerns, as of now, are the balance between the ST's and the SM65 as the center...and the fact that I've started down this road in the first place lol

You my friend have caught the upgrade bug, it's both good and bad, but can be very expensive. I am pulling this from what I said above.


The one thing I wish somebody told me are maybe they did and I didn't listed was stop upgrading your towers and upgrade you subs. Once I went to 2 PSA XS30s over my SVS PB12 it made a huge difference. I probably could have skipped 2 sets of speaker upgrades looking for the right combo.


And I will also ask you the same questions. What are you hoping to gain, what's missing or what are you looking to achieve?
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You my friend have caught the upgrade bug, it's both good and bad, but can be very expensive. I am pulling this from what I said above.


The one thing I wish somebody told me are maybe they did and I didn't listed was stop upgrading your towers and upgrade you subs. Once I went to 2 PSA XS30s over my SVS PB12 it made a huge difference. I probably could have skipped 2 sets of speaker upgrades looking for the right combo.


And I will also ask you the same questions. What are you hoping to gain, what's missing or what are you looking to achieve?
The upgrade bug runs deep in my veins. I have it with cars, firearms, guitars, tv's, ...anything really. Fortunately, I've stopped a few of the bigger ones above (if only momentarily)...I really just rotate them throughout the years now that i think about it haha.

What i'm missing is simple...more... more. more. more (Billy Idol says so). I really want an enveloping soundstage that is very full, balanced, loud, and makes a hell of an impact while watching movies...immersion. I'm trying to stay grounded in reality here, and my wallet helps immensely in that regard, because I am well aware of how quickly things get out of control.

I dipped my toes in last winter with my current setup. I think I've had it long enough to know I want more. The original plan ended up being 3.2 until I bought a new house. Well, I have the new house and now it's time for the ol' upgrade lol. Oh, i have the upgrade bug with houses too...

I never thought about the sub upgrade. I assumed the Daytons would be good to go through at least the next phase (5.2). If I ever felt the need to go to 7.x I'd deal with a new AVR and whatever else I needed at that time. Again, keep in mind i'm trying to do all this while playing the budget game too. Which is a challenge. With cars it was the Rule of Three (Fast, Reliable, Cheap; you only get to pick 2). With HTS it seems similar...

back on track here...(I tend to ramble)...

I will need to make a purchase, regardless, to go from 3.2 to 5.x. I have a feeling I'll be most satisfied with 8080ST's for L/R vs doing a SM65 L/R. The center still worries me a bit (using the SM65) but it will have to do for now. I'll demo what I can, when I have the time. There's a BBY Magnolia fairly close for the 8080's.

What did you find improved most with the SW upgrade? I assume it wasn't just bass...I was actually looking at the PB12 before going with the dual Dayton 12's. But here you are telling me to pass on even the PB's and go higher...making me spend even more. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID! haha. No really though I am interested in hearing about the overall improvement upgrading the sub(s) made.

wow. enough. if you're still reading. congratulations. I have nothing to give you but my condolences.
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The upgrade bug runs deep in my veins. I have it with cars, firearms, guitars, tv's, ...anything really. Fortunately, I've stopped a few of the bigger ones above (if only momentarily)...I really just rotate them throughout the years now that i think about it haha.

What did you find improved most with the SW upgrade? I assume it wasn't just bass...I was actually looking at the PB12 before going with the dual Dayton 12's. But here you are telling me to pass on even the PB's and go higher...making me spend even more. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID! haha. No really though I am interested in hearing about the overall improvement upgrading the sub(s) made.

wow. enough. if you're still reading. congratulations. I have nothing to give you but my condolences.
What I found was just really solid deep bass and incredible sound quality. I have the 65s crossed over at 100Hz and it's just awesome. Music, movies, music in movies. I will keep going back to the tightness. I upgraded from a Def Tech SC1 to the SVS, and I thought that was a significant upgrade. The leap do the Dual sealed subs was the same again. They showed me what deep tight bass was. The impact from movie soundtracks is just incredible too.
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I have been reading endlessly about setting up my bp2006tl towers. I cannot find the manual for them, and definitive technology site no longer has the manual. I have an onkyo receiver tx-sr705. Right now I currently have my 2006's hooked up with speaker wire, and both towers connected to the receiver with a y adapter to the optional lfe connections. My speaker configuration is - sub - yes, front - full band, lpf of lfe - 120Hz, and double base - off. I have been reading that you don't really need the lfe connected for the 2006's. Is it better to have the lfe plugged in or not? Some have said no lfe and make towers full band, and put no under sub setting. My receiver doesn't go by small or large, it goes by Hz. I have no external sub, just the towers. Anyone who still has the 2006's still hooked up, would you be willing to share your speaker configuration/crossover settings? I have a surround sound system, but currently my fronts are the only thing I have upgraded. These are my first "nice" speakers, so I'm still learning. Any help is much appreciated!
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If your running the subs with the LFE I would put your speaker setting to small or above 110-120hz, since your mids are only 4.5".
Or as suggested try this, run your low input to the full range L/R pre-outs and then set the speakers to full/as low as the setting will go, since your talking about an 8"base driver it will have the speed to handle the higher fq's just fine and still should give you plenty of low end boom, also set your sub to off so that the receiver doesn't seperate the LFE out. Should be a simple change for you and give you a choice to see which you like best, try both setups with some bass heavy content and let your ears be the judge.
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Center Channel advice

Hello all-

My setup is as follows:

Center: Mythos Eight
L/R: Mythos STS
Surround: Mythos Gem XL
Receiver: Yamaha RX-A1030
Sub: SV Sound PB12-NSD

All of this is in a good sized room (20x17) with vaulted ceilings (~15ft at high point). The center channel is currently resting on top of the fireplace mantle, which is the only location that can house the center as the fireplace is directly below and TV right above. The mantle is higher that optimal, about 1 foot higher than earshot at listening position.

The problem is the dialogue from most TV shows and movies is quite muddy and difficult to understand. I've ran the out of the box EQ from the Yamaha and while it helped a bit it still didn't fix it. I've also adjusted the dialogue boost on the receiver. It's to the point where I just end up watching TV in the bedroom as everything is easier to hear.

I'm at a loss here, would a different center channel work better? Perhaps a Mythos Ten? Should I go with a completely different setup? I've tried a Denon X4000 that also didn't resolve my problem... mostly the same muddy results.

Any advice is welcomed.
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