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post #31561 of 31584 Old 09-15-2014, 08:18 PM
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I currently have the following setup

7.2
L\R - BP2004
C - CLR2300
Sur - UIW63/A (in ceiling)
R - BPX
Sub - DIY slot ported 18" DI HT Marty Cube x2

Receiver - Denon AVR-X2100W

I'm not thrilled with my center channel .... I know some are going to suggest a Def-tech center channel upgrade, some are going to say get another BP2004 ... I've recently heard the SEOS compression drivers and it was a perceived improvement; I also listened to some ribbon tweeters and liked the clarity ...

How much of an issue is it to mix the type or manufacturer of the center? Anyone doing it? How's the Mythos 10 center? With modern EQ'ing isn't a lot of the issues of mixing speakers removed? I know its not a total non issue .. but was wondering if anyone had the same thoughts ...

Thanks for any advice in advance.

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I have owned the 2300, twice, a Mythos 8 and now have an 8080. I haven't tried that, but it's recommended to have matching across the front soundstage. However, I did have Boston Acoustics VS line in my back with Def Tech upfront and the difference was very obvious. The Mythos 8 sounded very small compared to the 2300. I don't then a Mythos 10 would be much better. Somebody recommended the 2000, try that, a 2500, the 8080, or phantom center. I have just discovered my CS8080 increases a room null with REW. It's right at the 60-80Hz range. I have been running without my8080 for a couple days and seem to like it. I just don't like the thought of not having a 7.2. I may try something different to see if it works, otherwise I may just get rid of it. I like phantom CC mode, try it.

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I agree with Lowell about trying phantom mode, the 2004's should give you a pretty decent phantom.

As far as the 2300 itself, I'm sort of surprised it's not doing the job well, the 2004's should be a really good match for it, I was wondering what your setup is like as far as location and acoustics, I never pulled my 2300 out, but always had a pretty airy spot for it, and as much as going to 3000 was an upgrade, bringing it completely out of a cabinet and out into the open improved it that much more. Also, try playing with your EQ a little, I know ideally everything should be good with a flat adjustment, but again, it will help you to adjust for acoustical differences.

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Just a thought, but are they at least 12 inches out from the wall?
Yeah. have actually used it in different setups in different rooms over the years.. no big thing. Now they are just used for when company comes over to play hockey on the playstation.. they are pretty good for that..
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Thanks for the input. The Center is on top of the 2 sub cabinets. Not inside anywhere. It's definitely the larger room or something happened during the move, I was never wowed by it but it does seem flatter in the new room.

I have REW, glad that was mentioned. I will run a sweep and see what it looks like compared to the mains.

Anyone who owns some deftechs compared them to the Clearwave Dynamic Mains(4TSE)/Center(4CCSE)? Impressions?
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A little off topic, but since it's been mentioned in this page a few times. To those that have used REW, is it worth the time, effort and investment to get the $95 mic and spend time learning the software? Or is using the receivers built in calibration tools (MCACC, Audyssey, etc) + SPL meter + some manual fine tuning a better route. I've been reading about it for the past day and it seems easy and complicated at the same time and I'm wondering if it's worth the effort and hours spent configuring everything.

Will you hear the difference between either way?

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I have a CRL 2002 for sale, no scrathes with original box and accessory's , if interested pm me, thanks
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Def Tech holiday deal?

Hi folks...

Has anyone heard if Def Tech is again going to offer their deal this year (Oct - Jan) - where if you buy 2 BP8060ST's at regular price - you get a center 8040 and 8040 surrounds for free?
They've done this the last few years - I'm hoping...
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I recently got a CS-8040HD from bajawaverunner (excellent condition, I might add), and am wondering if anyone has advice on whether it should be tilted towards me or not. I previously had a ProCenter 1000 and it was easily adjusted with the tilt screw. At any rate, I have the center on top of an entertainment stand below my projection screen and am wondering about tilting it upwards towards ear level, or if the "HD" means it doesn't need the direct shot that the PC-1000 might. I would only need the front to tilt upwards a small amount to have it aimed at the main listening position. What is a cheap, effective, decent-looking solution to this -- and do I need to solve this or is it not a problem?

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Currently watching on: BenQ W1070, 82" 1.0 Gain Screen, PS3, with Yamaha RX-V473, SVS PB-1000, a Def Tech CS-8040HD, and 4 Def Tech ProMonitor 800s.
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I recently got a CS-8040HD from bajawaverunner (excellent condition, I might add), and am wondering if anyone has advice on whether it should be tilted towards me or not. I previously had a ProCenter 1000 and it was easily adjusted with the tilt screw. At any rate, I have the center on top of an entertainment stand below my projection screen and am wondering about tilting it upwards towards ear level, or if the "HD" means it doesn't need the direct shot that the PC-1000 might. I would only need the front to tilt upwards a small amount to have it aimed at the main listening position. What is a cheap, effective, decent-looking solution to this -- and do I need to solve this or is it not a problem?

Thanks in advance!
I tilted it up and it sounded much better. I bought some rubber feet off Amazon.
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Re:tilt on the center. It can help and is easy to do. Rubber doorstops work as well as the rubber feet mentioned above. I use a pair of Auralex MoPads under my 8060 and like those.
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bp8080st vs svs ultra towers

I need help in deciding between the bp8080st or the svs ultra tower. I'm going to buy a set of one or the other.I also am considering the 8060st is the 8080st a big upgrade from the 8060st. I have definitive technology towers now but the svsultra sounds like a great speaker.If I buy 8080st I will get them from bajawaverunner, are the products from them usuallybin good working order.Please any advice is most wanted in making this difficult decision.
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I need help in deciding between the bp8080st or the svs ultra tower. I'm going to buy a set of one or the other.I also am considering the 8060st is the 8080st a big upgrade from the 8060st. I have definitive technology towers now but the svsultra sounds like a great speaker.If I buy 8080st I will get them from bajawaverunner, are the products from them usuallybin good working order.Please any advice is most wanted in making this difficult decision.
I haven't heard the SVS's so I really can't help you there, but just doing a quick glance you'd be be giving up a 12" powered woofer for 2 8" woofers that are dependant on your source component for power, at a glance it seems like a push toward the 8080's, but again that's just at a glance. But... one thing about the 8080's just remember you can't jam them into a tight space and expect them to perform to their full potential, they need room to breathe, esp. the rear driver.

As far as the 8080 vs 8060, yes there is a decent amount of difference in their sound, IMO the 8080 is a lot better suited for HT and just marginally better suited for music, but that's just me, you'd have to side-by-side them yourself to truly know which you like better. Something to think about though, a few people who have listened to the 8060 against the 8040, haven't thought that the 60 was "enough" better to justify the extra cost between them, but the 80's were.

As far as Baja, they've probably got one of the best reputations as a DefTech re-seller on E-Bay.

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Mythos 3 or ProCinema 1000 for Bp7006?

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Im looking for a center channel that match the bp7006 towers in which use 4.5" mid drivers.

Mythos 3 and ProCinema 1000 both use 4.5" mid drivers but i believe the type of drivers are different.

Im inclining more in the mythos 3 but I need advise from experts.

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Hello guys. I just jumped back onto the DT train. I just picked up 2 Mythos STS towers and a Mythos 9 center tonight.

Just got them all set up a few minutes ago and I am quite impressed. I might pick up some Mythos 5's for surround duty that are on CL tomorrow.

Now for my question. Do you guys think I should go with two SuperCube 4000 or 2 6000's? How hard would it be to integrate the two subs in the towers and the two 4000 or 6000 SuperCubes? I also might order 2 SVS SB-2000 in the new gloss black instead of the SuperCubes.

My receiver is a Pioneer SC-1523-K. Thanks in advance guys!

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Order the two SVS subs they will blow away the DefTech subs hands down. If your receiver has one sub preout then buy a RCA Y-splitter and hook up both subs this way. If your receiver has two sub preouts then use one RCA cable per preout to each sub. Once you have the subs hooked up. Set your towers to small with a 40Hz crossover for incredibly tight and loud mid bass and just the two SVS handle the low bass. You'll get the best of both words. Your towers will have tight mid bass you can hear to fill the room and the SVS will give you tight loud bass you can feel.

I have BP7001's as my mains set to small 40Hz crossover and a SVS NSD 12/2 for bass I can feel.
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Hi

Im looking for a center channel that match the bp7006 towers in which use 4.5" mid drivers.

Mythos 3 and ProCinema 1000 both use 4.5" mid drivers but i believe the type of drivers are different.

Im inclining more in the mythos 3 but I need advise from experts.

Thanks
I wouldn't worry about matching the 4.5" in the center channel to your BP7006. DefTech's sound is similar across the different sizes/model lines. However, if you give DefTech a call they should be able recommend something.

I'd go as big as your space & budget allows.

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I need help in deciding between the bp8080st or the svs ultra tower. I'm going to buy a set of one or the other.I also am considering the 8060st is the 8080st a big upgrade from the 8060st. I have definitive technology towers now but the svsultra sounds like a great speaker.If I buy 8080st I will get them from bajawaverunner, are the products from them usuallybin good working order.Please any advice is most wanted in making this difficult decision.
My SM65s, CS8080 and one set of my SR8080s are from Baja. All have been working flawless and I have had them for about a year.

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Hi

Im looking for a center channel that match the bp7006 towers in which use 4.5" mid drivers.

Mythos 3 and ProCinema 1000 both use 4.5" mid drivers but i believe the type of drivers are different.

Im inclining more in the mythos 3 but I need advise from experts.

Thanks


The drivers in the one you listed are both similar. I think the PC1000 has the BDSS first gen in them. However, that's really not going to matter. Unless space is an issue, I would get the 2300, 2002, 2500, all older and only used. Also the PC2000, CS8040 or CS8060 will work. I owned a Mythos 8 and used it as a center. I would not do it again.

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The drivers in the one you listed are both similar. I think the PC1000 has the BDSS first gen in them. However, that's really not going to matter. Unless space is an issue, I would get the 2300, 2002, 2500, all older and only used. Also the PC2000, CS8040 or CS8060 will work. I owned a Mythos 8 and used it as a center. I would not do it again.
Oh wow. What happened with mythos 8? Doesnt match or what?
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Hi,

I am looking to purchase a 5.1. speaker system, and Definitive is my top choice amongst all the speakers that I have auditioned so far. I have zeroed in on BP-8060ST for front speakers & SR-8040BP for surround. However, need some advice on the picking the right center speaker - should I go for the CS-8040HD or CS-8060HD? Would the CS-8040 suffice since the specs & dimensions for both are the same except for the bass, & I am planning to purchase an external sub-woofer so the subwoofer in the CS-8060 feels kinda redundant. Is there any particular reason why I should pick one over the other?

Also, which external subwoofer (priced around $500-$600) would go well with these speakers? Besides this, I already own an Onkyo TX-SR705 receiver that supports 100W/channel, so wondering if it would provide sufficient power to the speakers or do I need to think about upgrading my receiver. I am a newbie, so looking forward to some expert advice from folks on the forum.

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I got to hear the new BP8060ST tower speakers with the A60 Atmos speaker on top at Cedia last week. One of the better Atmos demos in my opinion - especially if you don't want to install in ceiling speakers.






I'm thinking about getting these for my 8060ST since Onkyo is releasing their Atmos firmware next week.
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Oh wow. What happened with mythos 8? Doesnt match or what?


Speakers are one of those things where size matters. The Mythos 8 sounded no better than my $200 Boston Acoustics HS225 I had at the time.

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Speakers are one of those things where size matters. The Mythos 8 sounded no better than my $200 Boston Acoustics HS225 I had at the time.
So, u have deftech mains with boston center??

I want to replace my polk cs2 for my rtia7 but csia6 are way expensive for what it is.
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So, u have deftech mains with boston center??

I want to replace my polk cs2 for my rtia7 but csia6 are way expensive for what it is.

No, I have 2 rooms with surround sound. One was and still is Def Tech the other was BA at the time, even went up to BA VS series. That was before I had my two PSA XS30s. Had I bought them before my SM65 setup I would have kept my VS series. However, I had my mains and my surrounds mixed and matched and the sound quality difference was very obvious. The BA VS line and Def Tech did not sound alike at all. I wouldn't mix and match if possible; at least not brands.

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