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I found used Definitive Technology STS tower speakers (pair) for $900.

Is it worth to buy?

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I found used Definitive Technology STS tower speakers (pair) for $900.

Is it worth to buy?
Good price assuming they are in good condition and haven't been abused. Bajawaverunner is selling factory refurbs for $850 a piece.
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Hi everyone. After an almost 2 year absence I'm back to being a Def Tech owner! WOOO! Had a pair of SM65's matched with a SuperCube reference for a while, switched to MartinLogans for a bit, and then tuesday a great deal popped up for the ST-L's so yesterday afternoon I ordered a pair! can't wait for them to arrive!!!!!
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Hi everyone. After an almost 2 year absence I'm back to being a Def Tech owner! WOOO! Had a pair of SM65's matched with a SuperCube reference for a while, switched to MartinLogans for a bit, and then tuesday a great deal popped up for the ST-L's so yesterday afternoon I ordered a pair! can't wait for them to arrive!!!!!
What other reasons got you to make the move? Which line of Martin Logans?

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What other reasons got you to make the move? Which line of Martin Logans?
Couple of reasons, figured I could sell my ML's, buy the new def techs, buy a new computer, buy a new camera, buy some performance parts for the car, and still come out ahead But the biggest is I get bored of equipment easily and quickly Let's see, since I started in audio about 4 years ago I've had (and I know I'll miss a few things):

Mains:
Insignia SB-2111
Def Tech SM65
MartinLogan Montis
Def Tech Mythos ST-L (Soon!)

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MartinLogan Motif X

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Def Tech SC2
Def Tech SC3
Def Tech SC Reference
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Panasonic TC-P50ST60

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Yamaha RX-A2010
Yamaha RX-A3020
Pioneer Elite SC-05 (I think)
Pioneer Elite SC-35
Denon ARV-X4000

I will also be likely upgrade my receiver from the Denon AVR-X4000 to the AVR-W4100 in the near future.
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I'm thinking about getting SM65s for my fronts and using the PM800s as surrounds. Unfortunately, without replacing my receiver I only have a universal crossover. Right now, with the PM800s all the way around, I'm using 100Hz. However, if I got SM65, I feel like my front soundstage would benefit from using an 80Hz crossover. Do you guys think that would degrade the sound quality from the PM800s as surrounds? Or what is your advice - besides getting a new AVR with more crossover options?

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I'm thinking about getting SM65s for my fronts and using the PM800s as surrounds. Unfortunately, without replacing my receiver I only have a universal crossover. Right now, with the PM800s all the way around, I'm using 100Hz. However, if I got SM65, I feel like my front soundstage would benefit from using an 80Hz crossover. Do you guys think that would degrade the sound quality from the PM800s as surrounds? Or what is your advice - besides getting a new AVR with more crossover options?
It depends on your subs. I have my 65s crossed at 120.
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Also, do a test, run the 800's at 80hz for a few days, see what you think.
Plus, don't forget, surround channels won't have as much information sent to them as your mains will, odds are, the 800's at 80hz will work ok, esp. in a surround position.

Lowell is right though, your sub will play a big role in this.
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It depends on your subs. I have my 65s crossed at 120.
It will also depend on your hearing. Some people are very sensitive to directional sounds and will hear the location of the sub too much, some people are sensitive to phase problems.
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It depends on your subs. I have my 65s crossed at 120.
That seems high to me...I can definitely hear localization with 120 as the crossover, but 100 is much harder to pinpoint for me in my current space.

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Your setup matters to. Did you look at mine.
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Your setup matters to. Did you look at mine.
Yeah I took a look. Do you have the high crossover because the subs are so close to your mains that they act as larger towers? (that's my guess as to why you'd do that)

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Yes. My subs are me speaker stands.
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I would like some opinions on surround speakers.

I have just purchased a pair of BP2s, however I am thinking about returning them and purchasing a pair of BP2Xs instead. I can get the BP2Xs for half the price of the BP2s.

Can I get some feedback on the performances of these speakers??

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Looking for some advice on a possible 7.2.2 setup.

The room is my basement, the home theatre area is 10ft wide by the tv but opens wider about 3ft out towards the seating the position. The room length Is about 25ft.

I'm looking at buying 4 mythos gem's, a pro cinema 2000 center and a SVS cylinder sub.

Any recommendations for the two ceiling speakers? Does SVS work well with the def tech speakers or should I stick with the def tech subs?

Thanks for the help!
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I would like some opinions on surround speakers.

I have just purchased a pair of BP2s, however I am thinking about returning them and purchasing a pair of BP2Xs instead. I can get the BP2Xs for half the price of the BP2s.

Can I get some feedback on the performances of these speakers??

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Are you sure they're BP2's? They're fairly old and not do common, plus the should be less than the BP2X's for all intensive purposes.
If they are BP2's they are basically the same in drivers, the 2X's are newer and may have a slight edge on sound quality, but I doubt you'd notice in a surround position, the real question between the two is their design vs their placement, if you are placing them either right at your side or right behind you, the triangular design of the 2X's may give you a better sound dispersion, but if you are thinking about behind and to the sides the square design of the 2's may lend itself to corner mounting and reflecting off both walls.

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Looking for some advice on a possible 7.2.2 setup.

The room is my basement, the home theatre area is 10ft wide by the tv but opens wider about 3ft out towards the seating the position. The room length Is about 25ft.

I'm looking at buying 4 mythos gem's, a pro cinema 2000 center and a SVS cylinder sub.

Any recommendations for the two ceiling speakers? Does SVS work well with the def tech speakers or should I stick with the def tech subs?

Thanks for the help!
Subs are the one part that matching means the last if not at all, go for which gives you the sound that you like.

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Thanks for the reply ALtlOff. Perfet as I'm leaning towards the SVS.

any thoughts on the gems mixed with the pro cinema 2000?

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If your going with the ProCenter 2000, (which is a good choice) and you didn't need the slim design of the gems I'd go with the ProMonitor 1000's the drivers would be a perfect match.

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Thanks, I just liked the on wall, slim long look of the gems. But the pro monitor 1000's will save me some money.
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Looking for some advice on a possible 7.2.2 setup.

The room is my basement, the home theatre area is 10ft wide by the tv but opens wider about 3ft out towards the seating the position. The room length Is about 25ft.

I'm looking at buying 4 mythos gem's, a pro cinema 2000 center and a SVS cylinder sub.

Any recommendations for the two ceiling speakers? Does SVS work well with the def tech speakers or should I stick with the def tech subs?

Thanks for the help!

Completely agree with the poster who recommended PM1000s over Gems. Way better match. As for subs, HSU, SVS, PSA, Rythmic, all will give you a much better bang for the buck than a Def Tech sub and I used to own an SC1.

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Thanks for the reply so here is my plan, please feel free to make any suggestions or changes... basically tell me if i can get something better for the money!

Def tech pro 1000 $259ea x 4
Def tech procinema 2000 $419ea
Def tech pro 800 $174ea x 2
SVS SB-1000 $549ea

The above prices are in Canadian.

In the future i would like to add a second sb-1000, its just not in the cards right now.

Any advice?
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Just picked up a set of SM450s. Curious how they will compare to my BP7000SCs when paired with a HGS-18 subwoofer. Eventually would like to use the SM450s for rears but the BPVXs work now since they are up on the wall and out of the way. The BPVX just have too much of a boundary issue when on the wall. I think they are really meant to be ran on a stand else heavily EQed
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Thanks for the reply so here is my plan, please feel free to make any suggestions or changes... basically tell me if i can get something better for the money!

Def tech pro 1000 $259ea x 4
Def tech procinema 2000 $419ea
Def tech pro 800 $174ea x 2
SVS SB-1000 $549ea

The above prices are in Canadian.

In the future i would like to add a second sb-1000, its just not in the cards right now.

Any advice?

Get2 PM1000s and the PC2000 for your front soundstage nd the 4 PM800s for your surrounds. The sub will be great with them.

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Get2 PM1000s and the PC2000 for your front soundstage nd the 4 PM800s for your surrounds. The sub will be great with them.

Perfect, thanks for the advice
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two other questions

Would the procinema 1000s work great as LCR speakers if i was to mount 3 of them behind an Acoustically transparent (AT) screen?

Can you recommend 4 in ceiling speakers for atmos? Seating to screen will be about 15ft and ceilings are 8ft high.

Thanks for all your help
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two other questions

Would the procinema 1000s work great as LCR speakers if i was to mount 3 of them behind an Acoustically transparent (AT) screen?

Can you recommend 4 in ceiling speakers for atmos? Seating to screen will be about 15ft and ceilings are 8ft high.

Thanks for all your help
The 3, 1000s would be fine. For in ceiling I would just get the Def Tech in ceiling 5.5, DIs or the old model. It depends on your budget.

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So I got some SM65s, and I wanted advice about imaging vs. my PM 800s.

When I had the PM800s, even sitting off-axis (where, unfortunately, the majority of my seats are), 2-channel stuff sounded naturally "centered" on the screen. With the SM65s separation is really apparent, except in the sweet spot--it's actually really odd the way that moving around even a foot or so out of the sweet spot, the imaging immediately changes (which wasn't the case with the PM800s, at least as obviously to me). At the same time, when playing multi-channel (Battle Los Angeles was the last BD I watched), I've found that the front soundstage is nearly seamless, even off-axis.

I have the SM65s in nearly the same place as I had the PM800s (though obviously they are a much larger speaker) and toed in about the same amount. Should I even be attempting to better integrate the stereo soundstage, or is it better to leave it alone if I don't notice the separation in multi-channel stuff?

So you know: I'll probably play around with these this weekend, but wondered if anyone else owned these and had tips for imaging.

Thanks in advance!

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