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Emailed Def Tech and they are sending a replacement. Thanks for all the help guys.

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Perhaps this is inappropriate in this thread, but my Definitive Tech speaker system (pictured below) is now for sale. All purchased new by me. The BP 10’s and the CLR-1000 date from late 1992. (Just looked at the receipts). The BPX’s are from about 2005. They were in my main theater room until earlier this year when I replaced them with an Usher Audio speaker system. They still sounded as good as they day they were new. Well built speakers unless abused just don’t wear out. I’m in the Atlanta area if anyone is local and interested. They are all cosmetically and functionally in excellent condition. After over 20 years of loyal service one gets kind of attached to faithful equipment thus I would like to find a good home for them and will let them go for a very good price to the right new caretaker
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Okay I've finally have finished my project finally !! C what any of your input might be? I replaced all the internal wiring from the XO to the amp board. I've replaced as much as 85% of all the wiring on boards? The reason wasn't fesable due to some of the tight restrictions?? Disappointing? Anyways,I replaced all the 18 awg to highs and mid which we're Cable Tech FT-1wire. The two sub wires are Continental E59428 ,which are aluminum tin!! I'm not kidding!!!Wouldn't say it unless true and verified!!!I was very surprised and astonished?? 97 was the year build of my BP 2000. Def Tech had no answer and I told him the spec # on wire Continental E59428 18 awg even and offered to send pic?
Anyways to the point? I used 14 awg 5% pure silver 19 strand OFC coated silver wire!! First completed one and ran an independent test,and everyone could tell which speaker had been worked on. Oh,I forgot to tell u that I soldered all the connection back even to boards. Direct connection with highest quality wire I could attain was my goal? I even chose this wire over Cardas, Beldon,Kimber internal wire,? I checked and researched as mush as I could? And no I didn't run any # after to some of you out there? B cool??
Guys ,all I know is this one thing now and this is from someone that absolutely didn't believe in diff kind and brand of wiring could impact music??? Could not make me think any diff!! Then about a 6 months ago I got a deal on a pair of MIT shotgun cable's for $100! I was going to sell was my intent until I connected them just to c.? Now I understand 100%.
Now I plan to do my BP 2004TL,and my CLR2300 too?
By the way. Everything cost me $97 for 100 ft of wire!!! Everything else i had already...lol.. But I still have to order another 300 ft? I'm going to make speaker cable's and prefer diff size of this wire and make some awesome cable's??? I've started already with the left over and its made a diff biwireing? I'm 45 and my first component system was the last gold Marantz made in 1983! Yeah !!! So I have a little in this area? Not much ,but enough to know that I have a new set of speakers it seems like? And my woofers??? I've had to turn down my bass Pioneer sc37 down 3 digits . I can play a 24 bit Flac file video on YouTube and the speakers disappear !!
I hope to hear of someone else having done this same thing ?
I got this idea from one my HIFI mags? This company from over seas will rewire and do some aesthetics for a bunch of money? Well I love the look of my Def Tec ,and wouldn't change,ever!!!
But I have superimposed a drastic improvement to a already awesome sounding musical reproduction system!
Hope this will inspire someone else to do the same ,and gain an improvement to any speaker that I can think of as long as it's sensitive enough? That means they need to b well received speakers before u will hear any sonic improvement? This is just my thinking on this?
Not saying that any of this is right or correct yall? It works for me and I think it will work for u to enjoy your Def Techs even more???
Last thing? If u can ,check the spec # and make sure u do not have aluminum tin wires??? Spec and pic attached?
Even my friend which is an electronic teacher at a college looked and agreed that all the wire was the cheapest in the group seems to b?? And the 2 to sub are aluminum tin! Why only the subs and not the rest or vice versa which either is neg in my book.
But hey Def Tech ,u still make one best speakers out there! Anything can b improved,right? That's what I've done ,and it's really mind blowing how something so simple and unnoticeable can have such an impact on sound quality?
Below is a pic of some internal wires ? The silver wire is the original that was replaced. I'm hoping that Def Tech has stopped using such materials?
I hope to hear some comments on thus project?
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Very cool Dab, I had wounded how that project went, I'll have to look into this after more of my initial work on the room is finished.

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uprading again, any input would be greatly appreciated

Currently my system is:
Panasonic PN50UT30 Plasma
DirecTV HR34
Xbox One
Panasonic DMPBDT230
Pioneer Elite SC-65
BP8060ST w/A60 Modules for F/FH-L/R
CS8040HD Center
SR8040BP S-L/R
PROMONITOR 800 SB-L/R

Here is my current problem. The system itself is great, we rent the home, hence the ridiculous speaker placement in rear(the SB channels were already wired) but that's unimportant. We begin building our home/ my new dedicated theater. As most are currently, I couldnt decide on either atmos or auto 3d. Luckily the guys in the auro for home thread are sharing their positive outcomes configuring both at once and merely using a switch to change out certain pairs. I will be following suit and therein lies my issue. Basically I can run a 9 channel base with FH, FW, and SB adding only a pair of in ceiling speakers over MLP for atmos as well as a pair of on wall(ideally aimable) speakers at L/R Center of height layer.
Here are my proposed changes:
Swap elite avr to new denon 5200 series
A60 and PM800 are gonna go and I'll need 1pair FH on wall, 1 pair for FW, 1 pair SB, One pair in ceiling as well as on wall. I am torn between loading up on mythos fours for FW, a pair of mythos centers(3,7) for L/R height layer , then mythos on walls(2,6) for FH, and whatever in ceilings. Other option being multiple sets of BP1.2/2/V/Xs.
Any input would be greatly appreciated. I have heard mythos speakers before, but I'm not familiar with the older wood surrounds as far as tonality is concerned (but they get bonus points for being super cheap to buy second hand)
Cost is not really a concern, as they're all closeouts. Thanks for the time
*sidnote- For sale 1pr A60 modules as well as 1 pair of pm800s. Will trade for speakers listed above*
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Currently my system is:
Panasonic PN50UT30 Plasma
DirecTV HR34
Xbox One
Panasonic DMPBDT230
Pioneer Elite SC-65
BP8060ST w/A60 Modules for F/FH-L/R
CS8040HD Center
SR8040BP S-L/R
PROMONITOR 800 SB-L/R

Here is my current problem. The system itself is great, we rent the home, hence the ridiculous speaker placement in rear(the SB channels were already wired) but that's unimportant. We begin building our home/ my new dedicated theater. As most are currently, I couldnt decide on either atmos or auto 3d. Luckily the guys in the auro for home thread are sharing their positive outcomes configuring both at once and merely using a switch to change out certain pairs. I will be following suit and therein lies my issue. Basically I can run a 9 channel base with FH, FW, and SB adding only a pair of in ceiling speakers over MLP for atmos as well as a pair of on wall(ideally aimable) speakers at L/R Center of height layer.
Here are my proposed changes:
Swap elite avr to new denon 5200 series
A60 and PM800 are gonna go and I'll need 1pair FH on wall, 1 pair for FW, 1 pair SB, One pair in ceiling as well as on wall. I am torn between loading up on mythos fours for FW, a pair of mythos centers(3,7) for L/R height layer , then mythos on walls(2,6) for FH, and whatever in ceilings. Other option being multiple sets of BP1.2/2/V/Xs.
Any input would be greatly appreciated. I have heard mythos speakers before, but I'm not familiar with the older wood surrounds as far as tonality is concerned (but they get bonus points for being super cheap to buy second hand)
Cost is not really a concern, as they're all closeouts. Thanks for the time
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While I have thought about adding additional/stand alone subs, I've been very happy with the current performance. However, they're currently in a highly reflective environment, so we'll see
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I have a 5.1 system and am looking to upgrade to a 7.1 system soon. I am looking for advice on choosing a set of surround Right and Left speakers for my system. My theater is in a 13.5' wide x 25' long room, although seating is within 18' of the front, so the rears are a little far (I posted layout here Acoustic treatment help for home theater space )

Current set up:
BP-8060ST front (2)
CS-8060HD center (1)
SR-8040ST surround/rear (2)
HSU VTF-15H sub (1)
Marantz 6008 (110 W /channel)

I actually have no idea how the different speakers compare, and my local store does not have the full range of speakers. I would like to add either a slim wall-mounted speaker or a sorround speaker to the surround position on the left and right side. I was initially thinking of the following on the sides:

Mythos XTR-40
SR-8080BP
Mythos Gem or Gem XL
Mythos XTR-20BP

Thanks in advance.
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I have a 5.1 system and am looking to upgrade to a 7.1 system soon. I am looking for advice on choosing a set of surround Right and Left speakers for my system. My theater is in a 13.5' wide x 25' long room, although seating is within 18' of the front, so the rears are a little far (I posted layout here Acoustic treatment help for home theater space )

Current set up:
BP-8060ST front (2)
CS-8060HD center (1)
SR-8040ST surround/rear (2)
HSU VTF-15H sub (1)
Marantz 6008 (110 W /channel)

I actually have no idea how the different speakers compare, and my local store does not have the full range of speakers. I would like to add either a slim wall-mounted speaker or a sorround speaker to the surround position on the left and right side. I was initially thinking of the following on the sides:

Mythos XTR-40
SR-8080BP
Mythos Gem or Gem XL
Mythos XTR-20BP

Thanks in advance.
Considering the rest of your system I'd go with the SR-8080BP, they would be a great match.
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I have a 5.1 system and am looking to upgrade to a 7.1 system soon. I am looking for advice on choosing a set of surround Right and Left speakers for my system. My theater is in a 13.5' wide x 25' long room, although seating is within 18' of the front, so the rears are a little far (I posted layout here Acoustic treatment help for home theater space )

Current set up:
BP-8060ST front (2)
CS-8060HD center (1)
SR-8040ST surround/rear (2)
HSU VTF-15H sub (1)
Marantz 6008 (110 W /channel)

I actually have no idea how the different speakers compare, and my local store does not have the full range of speakers. I would like to add either a slim wall-mounted speaker or a sorround speaker to the surround position on the left and right side. I was initially thinking of the following on the sides:

Mythos XTR-40
SR-8080BP
Mythos Gem or Gem XL
Mythos XTR-20BP

Thanks in advance.
I would go with the SR 8080BP myself. Nice system you have running there. Congrats.
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Hi,
I have a 7.1, included:
2 SM450 fronts
1 PC2000 center
2 SR-8040ST sides surround
2 PM1000 back surround
1 SuperCube 2000

Due to kids in the house, is there anyway to mount the SR-8040ST speakers from the ceiling? (there is only one side of the wall, so, can't mount them on the side) I've searched for the ceiling brackets for this specific speakers (SR-8040ST) but couldn't find anything appropriate.

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I have a 7.1, included:
2 SM450 fronts
1 PC2000 center
2 SR-8040ST sides surround
2 PM1000 back surround
1 SuperCube 2000

Due to kids in the house, is there anyway to mount the SR-8040ST speakers from the ceiling? (there is only one side of the wall, so, can't mount them on the side) I've searched for the ceiling brackets for this specific speakers (SR-8040ST) but couldn't find anything appropriate.

Thanks
Email Chet at Definitive Technology.

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Email Chet at Definitive Technology.

CPelkowski@definitivetech.com
Thanks Alex
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Thanks Alex

Please post your findings as I'll be needing to ceiling mount some speakers myself.

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I'm using 4 Def-tech DI-8R in-ceiling speakers for my atmos setup and I'm very happy with them. Quality of the speaker, and the sound is top-notch. Integrated nicely with my SVS Ultra 7.1 setup.
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Please post your findings as I'll be needing to ceiling mount some speakers myself.
Sure, will do.

So far, I am thinking of buying this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...productDetails

and screw a the board to its plate, then hang the speaker to the board.
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Sure, will do.

So far, I am thinking of buying this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...productDetails

and screw a the board to its plate, then hang the speaker to the board.
Yup, those, or if you didn't mind them being right off the ceiling, you may be able to make these work:
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Considering the rest of your system I'd go with the SR-8080BP, they would be a great match.
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I would go with the SR 8080BP myself. Nice system you have running there. Congrats.
Thank you for the advice. Sounds like the bipolar is the way to go there. I am still reading up on 7.1 and I was worried about getting an anemic surround L/R, as I was thinking of them more as secondary fronts rather than actual surrounds. With that being said, should I also upgrade my rears from SR 8040BP, or just leave them since they will be doing light duty?

Now I have to look around for a pair of SR 8080BP.
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Gloss caps on my ST 8060BP and on the CS 8060HD are somewhat distracting as I get glare from the projector screen. Yes, the speakers look handsome with the movie off, but I am thinking of covering them with some mesh or felt.

Has anyone else done this, or bought a second set of caps on the towers to cover in felt or cloth?
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My CS-8040HD has a glossy top-front piece that I covered up with some extra velvet from my masking and tape. Works quite well to reduce reflections.
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I have a 5.1 system and am looking to upgrade to a 7.1 system soon. I am looking for advice on choosing a set of surround Right and Left speakers for my system. My theater is in a 13.5' wide x 25' long room, although seating is within 18' of the front, so the rears are a little far (I posted layout here Acoustic treatment help for home theater space )

Current set up:
BP-8060ST front (2)
CS-8060HD center (1)
SR-8040ST surround/rear (2)
HSU VTF-15H sub (1)
Marantz 6008 (110 W /channel)

I actually have no idea how the different speakers compare, and my local store does not have the full range of speakers. I would like to add either a slim wall-mounted speaker or a sorround speaker to the surround position on the left and right side. I was initially thinking of the following on the sides:

Mythos XTR-40
SR-8080BP
Mythos Gem or Gem XL
Mythos XTR-20BP

Thanks in advance.
The 8080 is the best, but you might consider 8040s to have all matching surrounds.

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I'm using 4 Def-tech DI-8R in-ceiling speakers for my atmos setup and I'm very happy with them. Quality of the speaker, and the sound is top-notch. Integrated nicely with my SVS Ultra 7.1 setup.
Did you get to demo them anywhere at all first or were they a blind buy. I am debating between the 5.5s or 6.5s for the same thing, but the Dolby rep suggested using something you can set to a cut off around 40Hz. How is the clarity?

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I researched for weeks on end and ended up blind-buying based off my research. I have to say the clarity is great. I didn't know what to expect, nor had I heard any setup similar prior to. However once I had them in place I listened to several movies I was familiar with and had listened to/watched before on my 7.1. It was amazing to hear the different sounds and how different the sounds were placed in my room with the overhead speakers and dolby surround upmixing. Life of Pi, Dawn of the planet of the apes, Gravity, several others were like watching them for the first time. And the couple atmos blu rays I actually had sounded great as well. I can't compare these to any other speakers for overhead, but for my setup and environment, I'd buy them again for sure. I have them running to an onkyo tx-nr3030 and with SVS ultra 7.1 setup with dual PSA XS30SE subwoofers. Almost bought the 6.5 but glad I opted for the 8's after hearing them. No complaints here
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Thank you for the advice. Sounds like the bipolar is the way to go there. I am still reading up on 7.1 and I was worried about getting an anemic surround L/R, as I was thinking of them more as secondary fronts rather than actual surrounds. With that being said, should I also upgrade my rears from SR 8040BP, or just leave them since they will be doing light duty?

Now I have to look around for a pair of SR 8080BP.
No, you can leave the 8040's in the rear, no problem.
Check E-Bay, there's always 8080's there, Baja always has them.
I went and looked at your room, if it were me I'd put them right where the wall starts again after the radiator outcrop, about 12" from the ceiling.

Also, let me throw this out there, your room is as long as mine, since your looking at receivers, also check into 9.x receivers, you may be surprised that the price point won't be that much different, (probably about the same as if you replaced you 8040's) I think your room would work really well with the later addition of some wides, BP8's or BP6's right on the other side of that radiator space.
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Picked up the first of my additional subs for my surrounds this week, (really want to put my 1500's back into full Sub duty)
Got a Supercube III, eventually I'll have 2 of the III's for the rears and 2 Supercube II's for surrounds duty.

(2 pairs of SM450'S, hopefully Newegg will Still have then after Christmas, and 3 Supercube's to go)

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