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I also upgraded from a pro 1000 system with a center 2000. A DeFTech representative told me I would be ok using the 2000 with my 65's, and that the 2000 could hold its own with the 8040. I ran my 65's with with the 2000 until I got the 8060.

( shameless plug -upgraded to 8080, 8060 is listed in classified with towers and a Marantz 7009... all priced to sell)

The 2000 worked ok with the 65's (calibrated up a couple decibels)... the 8060 had a fuller sound with the powered subwoofer and the 8080 is pure heaven.

Can you pull your wall unit out and hold off to buy a 8060?

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Well that's good info. I'd love to get and 8060 or 8080, but I'd end up having to place it on top of my entertainment and that would just look funny, not to mention I'd have to remount my 65" TV up higher on the wall so that the center channel wasn't covering the bottom portion of the TV. That seems like a big headache to accommodate one speaker. Perhaps in the future I can find a matching entertainment center with a wider insert for the CC.

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Hi,

I bought 8060 towers and they are still in the factory sealed boxes.:-( I just don't have the room, and my girlfriend wasn't exactly happy....

FIRE SALE!

BP8060ST towers factory sealed Pickup in NY Burb $1000, $1200 shipped.

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I was about to pull the trigger on the SM45 at $400/pair when I noticed there are still SM 350 available for $225/pair. I have the 8040 for center, is there a big difference between the older 350 and the new 45?
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I was about to pull the trigger on the SM45 at $400/pair when I noticed there are still SM 350 available for $225/pair. I have the 8040 for center, is there a big difference between the older 350 and the new 45?
Not really, the biggest difference is simply the design and where you are putting them, the 45's have the radiator at the top, so they need to have open space above then, subsequently the 350's need more space on the sides because of there radiators placement. If you watch around, I've seen 350's as low as $175 still in the box.

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I just wanted to share my thoughts on my upgrade from a pro 1000 system to studio monitor 65's with an 8080 center, and 8080 surrounds

I loved my 5.1 Pro 1000 system with a 2000 center (the upgrade from the pro 1000 center was a big improvement). I wasn't very happy with the 65's at first.They took a very, very long time to break in and for a while they sounded unbalanced. and lacked clarity (muddled) Then everything clicked and smoothed out. The sound stage and imagery crystallized..it was incredible.... Jazz at the pawn shop never sounded so good.... but with certain 70's and 80's recordings I was unhappy. I heard bass cords that seamed to permeate my music and take away from the vocals of my enjoyment. It was horrible...... I was hearing music as it was meant to be!... I was at first unhappy, but I have come to appreciate the new sounds and nuisances of my system. I have grow to love and appreciate "the new sound"

Another issue I faced was transitioning from Pro 1000 surrounds ( 1 1/2 feet above my head, angled at the listening position) to Bipolar 8080's.I had much more detail out of the 1000's but with the 8080's I gained a much broader, diffuse, sound stage.


I somewhat agree with the members who expose eliminating the center and just using 65's as fronts. The sound dialogue is superior and with the superb imagery, you forget that you are not using a center. I find that I have to crank my 8080 center up by 3-5 decibels to get a similar experience (the Dialog enhancer on my 7200 definitely can kick it up a notch as well).. The phantom center channel sound is still a lbit fuller. So why have a center.. I think that with some movies the movement of artifacts is definitely enhanced and at times the center's woofer creates effects that heighten the listening experience.
( I need to do some more listening) I used to think that the center was the most important speaker... for those on a budget considering the 65's, I would say hold off on the center and perhaps consider a 65 center down the road. I know a lot of these thoughts have been expressed earlier on.

Advice: New formats Dolby Atmos et al.

New formats. I already have pro 1000 heights.... I am thinking of getting studio 45' fronts. a better match.... will I notice the difference? (Tonal match)? ... is it worth it??? I also am concerned that if I mount the 45's as heights there would be a clearance issue for the the base radiator.. ( I also do have an upstairs neighbor..... )

Back: my coach is right up against a wall. What would you do? I can upgrade fronts to 45's and have Pro 1000 surrounds and heights.....bye bye 8080....My guess is that keeping the 8080's and adding heights might not work so well with the new formats. I also can keep 8080's and add 45 heights.

I appreciate any advice and feedback the community has. I hope my thoughts help others.

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Not really, the biggest difference is simply the design and where you are putting them, the 45's have the radiator at the top, so they need to have open space above then, subsequently the 350's need more space on the sides because of there radiators placement. If you watch around, I've seen 350's as low as $175 still in the box.
Would there be any big difference in the Timbre matching in the 350 vs the 45 to the 8040 center?

I'd really like to go with the 350 for the cost savings.

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Would there be any big difference in the Timbre matching in the 350 vs the 45 to the 8040 center?

I'd really like to go with the 350 for the cost savings.
No, they'll match up just fine, if I remember correctly the 350's were actually the Studio Monitors that were available when the cs8040 was introduced (not sure though) but either way they should match up well.
Besides the cost savings the aesthetics are a perfect match.
There's a used pair of 350's on e-bay right now, at a pretty good"bid" price of you're not opposed to used.

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