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Anyone know where I can find the pre-construction brackets for the UIW RLS II and the UIW RSS II? Having a hard time finding them from a reputable site. Thanks!!
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Have you e-mailed DefTech yet?
I wasn't aware they could supply them direct, I will email them now! Ty!
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Nice. I have the same arrangement. One of the perks of a split level. I haven't heard a lot of in wall speakers, but Im yet to be impressed by them...


If you wanted a timbre match you could set up some SM65s back there on stands. Are another set of ST-L towers an option?


Are you going to do surrounds AND rear surrounds?
I'm not sure another set of ST-L would sit very well with my fiancee LOL. Yes I plan on doing surrounds and rear surrounds. I have been thinking about getting 2 BP9020 and 2 SR9080. Not sure if those would complement the fronts well though
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I'm not sure another set of ST-L would sit very well with my fiancee LOL. Yes I plan on doing surrounds and rear surrounds. I have been thinking about getting 2 BP9020 and 2 SR9080. Not sure if those would complement the fronts well though

From the looks of your layout you may have outlets near where your rear speakers would be. Timbre matched, powered loud speakers for rears are a real kick in the pants.


The guy I bought my 2006's from was running a 5.0 set up with 4 2006's. He let me test drive them prior to buying and it was a very enjoyable experience.


I definitely wouldn't skimp on your rear channels if youre running ST-Ls up front. Just my 2 cents.
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Well I have a Procenter2000 on its way from Bajawaverunner, can't wait test drive it. Hoping it lives up to everyone's comments. Although just looking at the specs compared to my current Procenter1000 it should be an improvement (fingers crossed)

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Well I have a Procenter2000 on its way from Bajawaverunner, can't wait test drive it. Hoping it lives up to everyone's comments. Although just looking at the specs compared to my current Procenter1000 it should be an improvement (fingers crossed)
I was looking at making the same change and ended up with a CLR2002 instead of a PC2000. For me it was a massive improvement and no reason to think you won't experience the same. The PC1000 is fine but I always felt like it was a bit congested and boxy, particularly with male voices, and switching it out took care of that.
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I was looking at making the same change and ended up with a CLR2002 instead of a PC2000. For me it was a massive improvement and no reason to think you won't experience the same. The PC1000 is fine but I always felt like it was a bit congested and boxy, particularly with male voices, and switching it out took care of that.
I hope you are right. I originally went with the C9060HD but it did not pass the WAF and to be honest it truly didn't fit my space. The PC2000 will fit like a glove and should tide me over until we get my last little sponge out of college and then I can go really crazy ( 9 BP 8080ST for the bed layer sounds like it should do nicely.... )

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Hey guys, was just curious, if I go ahead with the UIW RLS II for LCR. Would I be better off using the RSS II or the RCS II as my surrounds, since they will be installed in the rear wall at either end of the couch? Since I don't have side walls not sure if it would be helpful to "aim in" the RCS from the couch edge rather than have the RSS pointed straight.

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Well I have a Procenter2000 on its way from Bajawaverunner, can't wait test drive it. Hoping it lives up to everyone's comments. Although just looking at the specs compared to my current Procenter1000 it should be an improvement (fingers crossed)
Huge improvement.
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Hello all,

Sorry if this question has been asked, but the search function is not helping me to search for this question.

I'm strongly considering getting a 7 speaker set of the 9000 series lineup.
Specifically I'm looking at two BP-9040's for Front L and R with the A90 atmos modules. The CS-9040 for center, and two SR-9040's for side surrounds.

My primary question is in regards to matching a receiver to this set up. But I'd also really appreciate any thoughts, suggestions or feedback.

For my receiver, I'm looking at the Denon AVR-X4300H IN-Command because it supports 9.2 channels with HDCP2.2, HDMI 2.0a and Atmos, and I like its bluetooth and spotify features. The main reason why I was looking at this particular receiver, beyond being a fan of and used to Denon products, is because it supports a 5.2.2 setup, whereas other atmos enabled 7.2 channel receivers that I've seen do not allow 5.2.2.

BUT - now that I've done some more reading, it appears that if I were to use the integrated subs in these speakers (BP-9040), and set the speakers to Large with no LFE connected, then I would be running 5.0.2 and would not need to spend another $500+ on an extra 2 channels I do not plan to use. Is this assumption correct, does anyone else run a set-up like the one I'm looking at?
Edit: for example, maybe the Denon AVR-X3300W 7.2 Channel would be just as appropriate for my setup.

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I'm moving to a new home and have a preferable max $4,500 budget, before the wife kills me (keeping it towards 3,500 is preferable). I'm coming from a 5.1 setup with some old Infinity speakers with ribbon tweeters that I've repaired and refoamed. Front L&R are Reference Five series, side LR are similar era bookshelves (no ribbon tweeter), center is an Infinity PC351, sub is some random front firing hand-me down. Been happy with these speakers as a hand me down from my father for a long time, but they are bulky and will look ugly in our new home. I know I can do better now and want atmos.

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Tomcup,


It all depends on how much you want to spend in the end. I believe the 2300 and 3300 would support your 7 channel needs, the 4300 just has more power and more options.
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It all depends on how much you want to spend in the end. I believe the 2300 and 3300 would support your 7 channel needs, the 4300 just has more power and more options.
Yeah I meant to link the 3300w as what I would chose.

It makes sense if setting the speaker to large, that I would have no problems with a 7.2 channel receiver (that is only capable of 5.1.2). Could probably still even split the LFE line to the two if I preferred to go both fronts as Small and LFE enabled. But I think I'd just wire 'em in as large mains and allow the internal crossovers to do their things.

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Yeah I meant to link the 3300w as what I would chose.

It makes sense if setting the speaker to large, that I would have no problems with a 7.2 channel receiver (that is only capable of 5.1.2). Could probably still even split the LFE line to the two if I preferred to go both fronts as Small and LFE enabled. But I think I'd just wire 'em in as large mains and allow the internal crossovers to do their things.

Appreciate the input.


There is a huge Denon owners thread on this website too. I learned a lot reading through there.


The 3300 is a nice piece for sure though. If I wasn't going for a 9.x + set up I would grab one.
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Def Tech owners let me know if this would power or drive my speakers or I would end up wanting more power. I'm thinking of replacing my older Yamaha RX-V663 receiver with the Marantz NR-1506 slimline receiver. Its only 50 watts per channel but I was told Marantz is super conservative with their amp power ratings and probably puts out a bit more than what is stated. I have for speakers SM65 mains, SM55 surrounds, CLR2000 center that in time will be replaced with a 3rd SM65 for a center channel. I also have a SVS PB-1000 sub. Anyway do you think the Marantz NR-1506 will power and drive these speakers or will I end up wanting more power? I do not listen at ridiculous volume levels so I'm thinking it might be OK, but would like to see what Def Tech fans will say. Thanks in advance.
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Def Tech owners let me know if this would power or drive my speakers or I would end up wanting more power. I'm thinking of replacing my older Yamaha RX-V663 receiver with the Marantz NR-1506 slimline receiver. Its only 50 watts per channel but I was told Marantz is super conservative with their amp power ratings and probably puts out a bit more than what is stated. I have for speakers SM65 mains, SM55 surrounds, CLR2000 center that in time will be replaced with a 3rd SM65 for a center channel. I also have a SVS PB-1000 sub. Anyway do you think the Marantz NR-1506 will power and drive these speakers or will I end up wanting more power? I do not listen at ridiculous volume levels so I'm thinking it might be OK, but would like to see what Def Tech fans will say. Thanks in advance.


IMO you should always go with as much as you can afford...SM65s + SM55s would benefit from an ample power supply.


You should be able to move that CLR2000 pretty quick here once you get your third SM65.
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IMO you should always go with as much as you can afford...SM65s + SM55s would benefit from an ample power supply.


You should be able to move that CLR2000 pretty quick here once you get your third SM65.
Thanks for the advice. Maybe I'll just get another Yamaha receiver, they do build great receivers. I have been reading though they are skimping on the amp section, all the receiver company's are so I keep reading. I might go with a 5 channel amp from Outlaw and one of their new HT processors coming out.
When you say move the CLR2000, you mean sell it here? I have a pair of Mythos ones also. I didn't even know you could sell old equipment on here. Thanks for the post.
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Thanks for the advice. Maybe I'll just get another Yamaha receiver, they do build great receivers. I have been reading though they are skimping on the amp section, all the receiver company's are so I keep reading. I might go with a 5 channel amp from Outlaw and one of their new HT processors coming out.
When you say move the CLR2000, you mean sell it here? I have a pair of Mythos ones also. I didn't even know you could sell old equipment on here. Thanks for the post.

The classifieds section of this website is probably what draws half the members/lurkers. I bet one of the DT fans would snap it up in a hurry. That's a nice center channel.
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The classifieds section of this website is probably what draws half the members/lurkers. I bet one of the DT fans would snap it up in a hurry. That's a nice center channel.
OK thanks for the info. You think anyone would want the Mythos ones? How does shipping work when selling used equipment on here because these are kinda heavy items and expensive to ship?
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Hello, does anyone know if it is possible to disconnect the back side woofer and tweeter of say the bp10s? I'd like to examine using these as surround but don't have the space to stick them out from the wall. Would like to set maybe an inch or two from wall. I thought I might have read somewhere that this could be done- making front firing instead of bipolar. Thanks

Or you guys that use floorstanding bp speakers as side surrounds how do they sound if you place them sideways against the wall instead of pointing them towards mlp? This atmos thing has me all screwed up lol.

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Have you e-mailed DefTech yet?
I ended up calling DefTech today. Could not be happier with their customer service as they ended up offering to ship me all five rough in brackets at no cost. I am very happy with the decision to try the def tech's. While I was nervous about going in-wall, and changing from my current Polk set-up - I think I'm going to end up being very happy with the result.
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Hey guys,

I have a new-to-me CLR 2500 speaker. The other night the built in sub started producing this tone that got louder the longer it went on. It was loud enough to wake me up two floors up. The sub makes this sound even when the speaker wire is disconnected from the system. Even with the speaker directly plugged into my Panamax 5300 it still makes the loud tone. The knob on the back has no affect on the tone and the mids work just fine.

I called Definitive Technology's customer service and they no longer have replacement parts for it. Before I bite the bullet and send it in for repair I would like to have an idea of what may possibly be wrong. I have a buddy who is experienced with replacing electrical components on circuit boards and if I can help hunt it down, he can help me do the repair.

Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am fairly certain something on the amplifier has gone bad, (seems obvious) but if anyone has any more info I would really appreciate it.

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Hey guys,

I have a new-to-me CLR 2500 speaker. The other night the built in sub started producing this tone that got louder the longer it went on. It was loud enough to wake me up two floors up. The sub makes this sound even when the speaker wire is disconnected from the system. Even with the speaker directly plugged into my Panamax 5300 it still makes the loud tone. The knob on the back has no affect on the tone and the mids work just fine.

I called Definitive Technology's customer service and they no longer have replacement parts for it. Before I bite the bullet and send it in for repair I would like to have an idea of what may possibly be wrong. I have a buddy who is experienced with replacing electrical components on circuit boards and if I can help hunt it down, he can help me do the repair.

Has anyone experienced anything like this? I am fairly certain something on the amplifier has gone bad, (seems obvious) but if anyone has any more info I would really appreciate it.

Thank you!
I'm sure you've tried this but I'll ask anyway, did you try plugging it directly into the wall, just like subs, sometimes amps don't play well with power conditioners.
That was my only thought other than sending it in.

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That was my only thought other than sending it in.


+1. I plugged my subwoofer into my Monster power conditioner after I did some rearranging. It definitely prefers being plugged directly into the wall...
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+1. I plugged my subwoofer into my Monster power conditioner after I did some rearranging. It definitely prefers being plugged directly into the wall...
Well I have to admit I would never have thought that a power conditioner could cause an issue, but I am very doubtful that this is causing that. I will try however when I get home today. It was fine for about a week before this happened though. To clarify this is not a hum, it is a very loud tone coming from the built in subwoofer.
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Yeah I meant to link the 3300w as what I would chose.

It makes sense if setting the speaker to large, that I would have no problems with a 7.2 channel receiver (that is only capable of 5.1.2). Could probably still even split the LFE line to the two if I preferred to go both fronts as Small and LFE enabled. But I think I'd just wire 'em in as large mains and allow the internal crossovers to do their things.

Appreciate the input.
Cheap 3300 just went up for sale here....
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