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So I have a chance to purchase a pair of bp3000tl at a very good price. What is the consensus on these particular speakers? I have 4x bp30 now but always wanted to try the powered version. Thanks
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BP9020 subs slow to turn on

I have been battling the subs in my BP9020s since I got them.

I am driving the 9020s with a Denon AVR-S920W receiver. When I connected the 9020s only using the speaker outputs, the subs would not turn on until the volume was fairly load.

So I switched to dedicated sub cables from the Denon to the 9020s. I've had to crank the sub output on the receiver to get the 9020 subs to wake-up and am fighting too much bass when they wake up.

With the Denon at level 10 for the sub output, I have the 9020s set to about a quarter of the way up on their sub levels. Even with that, they stil; are not kicking in on lower volumes.

Never seen this before with DefTech or other pure subs I've used in the past. Since both speakers are acting up I'm stumped what the issue is. Appreciate any ideas.

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If you end up liking the RAAL's but miss the signature Definitive sound, make sure you find somewhere to hear the GoldenEar's.
Do you think the GoldenEars are similar enough...i.e., bear enough "family resemblance"....that they'd blend well into a DefTech setup? I'm exploring options for four heights and I plan to go audition GEs this weekend. Problem is, of course, that the dealer's setup is GE all around.
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Never seen this before with DefTech or other pure subs I've used in the past. Since both speakers are acting up I'm stumped what the issue is. Appreciate any ideas.

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I've been using various powered DTs for ages, and I've never seen that either. If only one does it, I'd assume it's defective. If they both do, it seems like something other 9020 owners would've mentioned.

Any chance you could try them with a different receiver? Just as a troubleshooting measure to eliminate the Denon's output as a cause.

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So I have a chance to purchase a pair of bp3000tl at a very good price. What is the consensus on these particular speakers? I have 4x bp30 now but always wanted to try the powered version. Thanks
Have they ever been repaired? Do you know the history on them?

Never heard anyone complain about a pair of 3000s aside from the fact they are pretty big towers.
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I've been using various powered DTs for ages, and I've never seen that either. If only one does it, I'd assume it's defective. If they both do, it seems like something other 9020 owners would've mentioned.

Any chance you could try them with a different receiver? Just as a troubleshooting measure to eliminate the Denon's output as a cause.
I've been considering that - wondering if the Denon isn't pushing out the proper low end. Was hoping it wouldn't come to that since I'll need to purchase another receiver.
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So figure out your exact budget.


Or just wait until you have more $ free so you can buy what you want.
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I've bought a few SCII's used for less than $300, while not as good as a SB/PB1000, will worth $250-300, esp for a bedroom or secondary system.
I've got 2 in my master (12 x 18) flanking the night stands, there not really that bad, plus with them close, there a small amount of impact as well.
(I wouldn't bother with a used SCIII, you'd probably have to give $200 for one, and honestly I've only looked them for adding bass to "full range" a speaker for a 2.2 music setup)

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I appreciate everyone that replied and offered info and suggestions. I have a couple subs on my Wishlist and will make a purchase when I have more money at my disposal. I don't want to buy something just to have it and then regret it if I'm not satisfied. It's easier to make choices when you have money to burn, not so much when you don't.
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Do you think the GoldenEars are similar enough...i.e., bear enough "family resemblance"....that they'd blend well into a DefTech setup? I'm exploring options for four heights and I plan to go audition GEs this weekend. Problem is, of course, that the dealer's setup is GE all around.
It's going to depend, while most of the DefTech's are very similar, my preference is to the older models, and I thought that the GoldenEar's I've heard were more similar to them than different. (which I guess makes sense, since the older models were from when Sandy was still with the company) But I believe much of the slight difference was the ribbon tweeter, so it's really going to depend on how much of a difference you can hear, esp if you're mixing the two brands together. But... of all the positions, just mixing in for heights, should probably be the least noticeable.

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It's going to depend, while most of the DefTech's are very similar, my preference is to the older models, and I thought that the GoldenEar's I've heard were more similar to them than different. (which I guess makes sense, since the older models were from when Sandy was still with the company) But I believe much of the slight difference was the ribbon tweeter, so it's really going to depend on how much of a difference you can hear, esp if you're mixing the two brands together. But... of all the positions, just mixing in for heights, should probably be the least noticeable.
Thanks for that feedback. I also prefer the older DefTechs and that's what I'm using at all the other positions. (In fact, it's my skepticism about their newer models that has me looking into alternatives elsewhere.) So if the GE sound is more similar to that, it might work out well....
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Never seen this before with DefTech or other pure subs I've used in the past. Since both speakers are acting up I'm stumped what the issue is. Appreciate any ideas.

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I've been using various powered DTs for ages, and I've never seen that either. If only one does it, I'd assume it's defective. If they both do, it seems like something other 9020 owners would've mentioned.

Any chance you could try them with a different receiver? Just as a troubleshooting measure to eliminate the Denon's output as a cause.
I have 9020's and have never experienced this or any other problems for that matter.

I have pushed them with both my Pioneer SC-95 and now with an Emotiva so I agree that it may be the Denon that's causing the issue.
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I've been using Pro Monitor 800's for side surrounds and Pro Monitor 1000's for rears in a 7.2.4 setup. I bought a pair of BPX's the other day that will be delivered on Tuesday.

In anticipation I moved the 1000's to the sides thinking I would put the BPX's in the rear positions.

The rear speakers are on stands and the sides are attached to the wall via mounts. I just recently moved and the room I'm working with is considerably smaller than my last so my couch basically goes from one side wall to the other. My only concern with my current plan is localization from the 1000's on the sides and am wondering if the BPX's would be better off there.

Any opinions would be helpful. Thanks!
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