Originally Posted by ALtlOff
This is actually perplexing since using speaker wire only should alleviate the issue of too little voltage to turn them on, but what your describing sounds exactly like what would happen with a low input voltage scenario. Esp. since it's effecting both speakers.
Does your AVR have pre-outs for the mains as well? if so, another experiment would be to try setting the speakers to Large and running the LFE connections to those pre-outs to see what happens.
BTW.... You did set the speakers to Small and adjust the crossover when you hooked them up to the LFE? Correct? If not this would also cause this scenario as they would only turn on with LFE content and possibly not when you were expecting.
One last really ridiculous thing.... There has been some issues with the logos on the new speakers effecting the amps, some people have had this problem with the logos turned off for some reason, something to do with constant current to the logos keeping the amps in standby properly, as I said ridiculous, but there's been a couple of posts about it.
Let us know.
Thanks for the well thought out response.
My AVR did not have pre-outs on it, just sub outs. When I did try the sub outs I did adjust the cross over frequency but your point on the LFE is excellent. I started to think that way and wondered about it. To your point on the lights, I can tell that the subs are turning on when the lights come on. So the lights appear to be accurate.
I went out and bought a different AVR yesterday, a Marantz SR5011. Connected it from scratch using the speaker outs, even set the levels manually using my trust Radio Shack meter. So the current setup is Front Large, Center Small, and Surround Small.
The Marantz and Denon are identical in their setup routines, the Marantz just has a few extra features.
It fixed nothing. Exact same problem. I need to get the volume up to around 48 on the Marantz for the subs to kick in while watching DirecTV. But I learned something else messing around with both receivers - if I listen to two channel (such as SiriusXM) the subs kick in as expected - lower levels.
So it has something to do with 5.1 and I'm scratching my head why the higher volume is needed with my DirecTV DVR. Never seen a problem like this with other Def Techs I've owned in the past, it's a real head scratcher.
Appreciate any ideas, I'm up for trying anything. I've read the Marantz manual and can't find anything. It appears that my Denon AVR was working fine.
Thanks again for the response.