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It is amazing the DT system one can build for 1K or so. DT built their speakers very well and are built to last.
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It is amazing the DT system one can build for 1K or so. DT built their speakers very well and are built to last.

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Yes the tower will be a great mid bass module. It'll play 80-125hz roughly with great force.
Thanks. I was tweaking it last night while kneeling on the floor and there was a subtle difference. It's cranked to the max for now regular cable viewing has weak signals and it seems like my separatd sub barely gets any worthwhile signal. The DT knob at max helps give it oomph.

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I tallied it up the other day what I paid for my Def Techs that sound incredible. $1,424 for 3 SM 65s LCR and SM 55 surrounds. It's a high performance home theater no doubt about it that I honestly would put up against systems that cost double or more. I really marvel at the sound sometimes. I was watching one of the transformer movies that I actually hate but it sounded so good I kept watching to hear it. Also to give your Def Techs a work out and see how good they can sound watch a movie called Mrs Peregrines home for peculiar children. It's astounding how good the sound is on this movie and how it can show off your Def Techs. I keep watching because it sounds so good.

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Def Tech says they have a big announcement next week at CEDIA '17. The new bookshelves maybe?


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Def Tech says they have a big announcement next week at CEDIA '17. The new bookshelves maybe?


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Um yeah that and I heard much more. I have no idea what that means but that's what the rumor is

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Fortunately since theses would also be used the cost differential shouldn't be that much, except for buying a Center, which you could do later and offset with the sale of yours. Mainly this will just give you more choices when shipping...
Center - CLR3000
Mains - BP2000 / BP3000 / BP7000 / BP7001
Basically just upgrading to 6.5" drivers.

Well I did find pair of BP7000s. But wouldn't I need change center to CLR 3000? If used rest of speakers and moved the 7002s for surrounds would this work?
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Clr3000 is a must and big step up. The clr2000 is the next best thing.

Also bpvx are best surrounds and should best even 7002
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Well I did find pair of BP7000s. But wouldn't I need change center to CLR 3000? If used rest of speakers and moved the 7002s for surrounds would this work?
while you wouldn't "need" to... After living with one of the 6.5" driver Supertowers as your Fronts, you'd want to...it would probably eat away at you if you didn't....lol

As mentioned above, the CLR2000 and then CLR3000 would be the next two steps above the 2500.

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Clr3000 is a must and big step up. The clr2000 is the next best thing.

Also bpvx are best surrounds and should best even 7002
Yeah both work well. The CLR3000 surprised me with amount of bass it produces. I think you said the 3000 has a bigger tweeter than the 2000?
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Well I did find pair of BP7000s. But wouldn't I need change center to CLR 3000? If used rest of speakers and moved the 7002s for surrounds would this work?
Well if you could swing the 7000s and either the clr3000/2000 you would be set. Use the bpx as surround backs with the 7002 as sides. Even though you are mixing driver sizes it wont be a problem. I did it for years. If you could afford those speakers you would have a top system.
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Well if you could swing the 7000s and either the clr3000/2000 you would be set. Use the bpx as surround backs with the 7002 as sides. Even though you are mixing driver sizes it wont be a problem. I did it for years. If you could afford those speakers you would have a top system.
Found pair of 7000 for $650 in mint shape. As for the clr3000/2000 not much luck there. Also trying keep cost down. Killing me! lol. I would resale my clr2500 since wouldn't need it but still need fine all.
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Found pair of 7000 for $650 in mint shape. As for the clr3000/2000 not much luck there. Also trying keep cost down. Killing me! lol. I would resale my clr2500 since wouldn't need it but still need fine all.
Run right now for the 7000s at that price. A clr2000 just sold on eBay for $119. Hatfeildjames on this thread has one for sale.
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I have done this and the results are worse than were I started.

#1 was needed and my mistake

#2 made the problem worse, the subs no longer turn on. The reason I turned the subwoofer level up on the receiver was to send more voltage to the sub line in. That in turn appeared to wake up the sub sooner. With the sub level set at -6, the subs are no longer waking up (I have the DefTech sub knob at 2 o'clock now)

New boards are arriving tomorrow and I'll see if that fixes this along with the thumb problem.

Most likely will switch of B&W CM9s plus a sub. Best Buy has them on clearance 50% off.
Not sure if it helps you in your case, but my experience with my BP9040's has been that the recommendation of setting the sub volume to 12 o'clock MASSIVELY overloads the bass. Could just be my room but I reran Audyessy last night and with the sub volume set anywhere above 9 o'clock (or the 3rd indicator on the dial's scale) my sub trim's hit -12db. At just a titch below that 3rd marker my trims rise to -9db. I'm using a Marantz SR5010 with sub gain at 0db. Zero issue with the amps in the speakers turning on though. You shouldn't have to play a game of competing volume settings to provide enough signal to turn the subs on.

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Found pair of 7000 for $650 in mint shape. As for the clr3000/2000 not much luck there. Also trying keep cost down. Killing me! lol. I would resale my clr2500 since wouldn't need it but still need fine all.




Where are they? Ill buy them if you don't!
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Not sure if it helps you in your case, but my experience with my BP9040's has been that the recommendation of setting the sub volume to 12 o'clock MASSIVELY overloads the bass. Could just be my room but I reran Audyessy last night and with the sub volume set anywhere above 9 o'clock (or the 3rd indicator on the dial's scale) my sub trim's hit -12db. At just a titch below that 3rd marker my trims rise to -9db. I'm using a Marantz SR5010 with sub gain at 0db. Zero issue with the amps in the speakers turning on though. You shouldn't have to play a game of competing volume settings to provide enough signal to turn the subs on.
Thank you. What you said makes complete sense.

I did receive the parts from DefTech today. Sadly they didn't send any instructions, just the line input board, power amp board, and a new indicator LED cable. I wasn't happy and even though I'm good with electronics, the minute you open the panel you see around 12 wires and no easy way to get the power amp board out.

I replaced the line input board and it made no difference. Same problem. I can't figure out how to replace the amp and I'm battling some of the connectors which seem to have changed a bit.

I'm going to see if DefTech will replace the speakers so I can sell them. I did plug an SVS sub into the same receiver today and it worked perfectly. So that eliminates a lot the other possibilities.

A real bummer.
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Where are they? Ill buy them if you don't!
No kidding, that's half of what they should be, minimum.

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Bp7000sc sell for $2000-2500 on used market.
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Bp7000sc sell for $2000-2500 on used market.
So might be stupid question but I don't know. Are there BP7000 and BP7000sc?
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So might be stupid question but I don't know. Are there BP7000 and BP7000sc?
Just one I believe, BP7000sc. Supercube built right in.

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Yup, just like we call the BP3000tl's, just plain BP3000's.
The 2000 series were the only ones that had both 2000 and 2000tl lines if I remember correctly.

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So going out tomorrow to see this pair of BP7000. Its from estate sale. Was told he had BP2000, 3000 and these 7000. They already sold all the centers. Had CLR 3000. Wish knew that before found these.
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So going out tomorrow to see this pair of BP7000. Its from estate sale. Was told he had BP2000, 3000 and these 7000. They already sold all the centers. Had CLR 3000. Wish knew that before found these.


NICE! If you wanna grab those 7000s and send them to MN Id be happy to send you some $
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So going out tomorrow to see this pair of BP7000. Its from estate sale. Was told he had BP2000, 3000 and these 7000. They already sold all the centers. Had CLR 3000. Wish knew that before found these.
Just as a reference, IMO...
The BP2000's were the most musical and best all around.
But for just HT.... With no separate Sub the best to worst would be the BP7000sc, BP3000tl, BP2000tl, BP7001sc, but with separate Sub(s) the BP7000sc and BP3000tl are pretty comparable.
Honestly, except for the SM65, all of the speakers with 6.5" drivers, are some of DefTech's absolute best.
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Just as a reference, IMO...
The BP2000's were the most musical and best all around.
But for just HT.... With no separate Sub the best to worst would be the BP7000sc, BP3000tl, BP2000tl, BP7001sc, but with separate Sub(s) the BP7000sc and BP3000tl are pretty comparable.
Honestly, except for the SM65, all of the speakers with 6.5" drivers, are some of DefTech's absolute best.
I'm curious what they announce next week. For some reason I think it might be a dramatic move in a positive direction. I have this feeling it's going to be a radical move. Of course I could be way off.

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New subwoofers? A powered center to match the mythos line? I'm going nuts, to exciting.
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New subwoofers? A powered center to match the mythos line? I'm going nuts, to exciting.
I think new subs yes, everything that is on huge sales right now I think is being replaced.

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They definitely need new subs to compete with the ID companies. I'm really hoping it's a new bookshelf speaker and maybe not "Studio Monitor". They need that nice flat squared off design with a nice look with the grills off and nicer looking speakers.. maybe better tweeters!


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They definitely need new subs to compete with the ID companies. I'm really hoping it's a new bookshelf speaker and maybe not "Studio Monitor". They need that nice flat squared off design with a nice look with the grills off and nicer looking speakers.. maybe better tweeters!


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I was told the new bookshelf speakers are gonna have quite a bit of silver on the front which I'm not sure I'm gonna like. I'm not saying I won't but I'm not sure until I see them. Hopefully by Tuesday we'll see what they have come up with

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I was told the new bookshelf speakers are gonna have quite a bit of silver on the front which I'm not sure I'm gonna like. I'm not saying I won't but I'm not sure until I see them. Hopefully by Tuesday we'll see what they have come up with

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Silver??? Hmmm.. not sure about that. I like all black and I don't like those colored woofers like some companies use. Well you know they're wanting to stay with that "D" logo and go away from "Definitive".


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