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post #811 of 31846 Old 10-18-2006, 08:53 AM
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Hi everyone,

I currently have a set of the 7004's as front R/L. I am in process of getting a set of 7006's for the rear surrounds and a CLR 2300 center.

A couple of questions.

1) does anyone know a reason why towers will not be a good choice for rear surrounds (as opposed to say BPVX/P's)?

2) I have a stand that sits on top of my Tosh 62hm84 where i keep the cc. Does anyone know how much the 2300 weighs? Is it true that if your cc weighs too much, it can damage the tv set?

TIA
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Matt,

Room size, and equiptment have to be taken into account(dedicated ht room, seating area etc.) The BPX bi pole surrounds match up very well with the 7004's. The design gives you a much larger sound field. Proper speaker placement is also easier with the BPX's. Also, for the amount of information you actually get from the back surrounds it really isnt cost effective...

I am currently running 7004's with 2 sets of BP2Xs and a clr 2300. Room is 27 x 16.
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Hey ya'll -

I am the new proud owner of a Definitive setup... My first true home theater.

Here's a quick list (Any and all input, good or bad, is encouraged!)

-7002's Up front

-CLR2300 Center

-BP2X's Out back

-Supercube II

I should have everything delivered and ready to go by early next week. I couldn't be more anxious Only thing left to purchase is the Elite VSX-84 Receiver I hope it knocks my socks off.

And btw, I currently am running a Samsung S4253 42" Plasma.. After the Def Tech's are done, I'm going to move this TV to the bedroom and look at the Sammy 71" DLP
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Congratulations, ILEagle! I must say, that if this is your first home theater, you got some good advice, or you did a very admirable job shopping around. I think you'll be very happy for a long time. Enjoy!

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Thanks for the reply. I'm not worried about the room in the back. My couch is in the middle of the room and there is plenty of space. I actually have a pair of bookshelf speakers on stands in the back so the 7006's will clean things up a bit.

I'm not sure I understand what you meen by "your going to be spending some back in the wrong area"? Can you explain in more detail?

Thanks,

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Sounded like you were going to put Towers in the rear?

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That's exactly how I have my setup.



Front, Center, Surround, Surround Back = SMALL
Subwoofer = YES
Crossover frequency = 80hz

I do have the option to set the Fronts to LARGE and Subwoofer to PLUS. I just tried that and it sounded the same to me. Seems that even when fronts are set to SMALL they still receive a bass signal since the subs are vibrating and outputting sound. There's just no comparison with the subs from the 7006 with the ML Descent. I figure I'd try to milk the 7006's for fuller midrange sound instead of using the 8 subs for bass production since they are vastly outperformed by the Descent.

May not have heard a diffference on few songs you listen to.When its emphasized you will know.So put all the DefTechs to LARGE.Music will have better mid rang.Also plays more detail and will in return give you a more crisp,dynamic sound.On movies the subs wont whine when there getting a small amount of signal.

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I'm also looking to do something similar in my room. I'm considering moving my 2006's to my surrounds and upgrading the 2006's to either the 7002's or 7001's. I also have the 2300 center channel. Wouldn't adding these to the rear be the rough equivelant to getting the powered surrounds they sell? Space won't be a factor for me and I only have one row of seating anyhow.
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Sounded like you were going to put Towers in the rear?


drummer,

I am going to put the towers in the rear. i just didn't understand what you meant by "your going to be spending some back in the wrong area". Are you referring to a monetary amount?

Sorry for the confusion.
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Congratulations, ILEagle! I must say, that if this is your first home theater, you got some good advice, or you did a very admirable job shopping around. I think you'll be very happy for a long time. Enjoy!


Thank you, sir!

With my hobbies, I tend to get in over my head, but I think I made the right choice diving right in to a system of this caliber. I made a point to keep an open mind and open ears while researching AVS and speaking with enthusiasts, so absolutely! It's the most any of us can do, I suppose
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I have stated this countless times - Using towers in the back are fine but really not even close to the optimal set-up. A much better surround sound immersive experience can be attained by placing 4 of the BPX line (BPX, BPVX, BPVX/P, etc.) around the listening position and about two feet above the listener. As a custom dealer for Def, I have had the oppt'y to try virtually every kind of set-up in my showroom including using towers as surrounds (side and/or back), and at the end of the day, nothing came close to mounting those bi-polar surrounds all around the listening position which added a much bigger sense of spaciousness.

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Adz - Thanks for the reply on this subject. I am assuming you are referring to a 7.1 setup as compared to a 5.1. I understand that, given the same speakers, 6 are better than 4 for fully immersive surround sound. I just wanted to see if anyone knew a significant reason for not using towers for surrounds. I got a really good deal on a pair of 7006's and was just wondering if I shouldn't go that way in the end.

I see that you said that rear towers are fine and no one has said anything negative about using them (besides a little overkill).

I really appreciate everyone's input on this forum. its definitely one of the few where you can get relevant information.

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Adz - Thanks for the reply on this subject. I am assuming you are referring to a 7.1 setup as compared to a 5.1. I understand that, given the same speakers, 6 are better than 4 for fully immersive surround sound. I just wanted to see if anyone knew a significant reason for not using towers for surrounds. I got a really good deal on a pair of 7006's and was just wondering if I shouldn't go that way in the end.

I see that you said that rear towers are fine and no one has said anything negative about using them (besides a little overkill).

I really appreciate everyone's input on this forum. its definitely one of the few where you can get relevant information.

matt

Its a great forum and a lot of Def Tech loyalists on here. While I said they are fine, I do not think they are overkill in a positive way. Using towers for surrounds simply do not sound as good as the bi-polar surrounds (the BPX series) mounted and positioned properly.

By the way, I have a pair of showroom demo BPVX/Ps I am looking to sell if anyone is interested - PM me.

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IlEagle,

How much do you notice the Super Cube II with the 7002s. I was debating whether to upgrade my 2006s to 7002s, or just add a sub.

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I have the same question about ceiling mounting my newly purchased BP2X. I haven't figure out how to mount them.

Can you post some pictures to illustrate how you did this and how it looks like? Are you ceiling mounting the speakers without the cabinet "naked"?

Thanks in advance.



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Here's what I did based on a recommendation from definitive tech support. It sounds scary, but worked out great.

What I did was remove the speakers from the bpx2 cabinet and pre drill a small hole slight of center and in the middle widthwise. I then used a lag bolt and a large metal washer on the inside to screw the speaker directly into the ceiling joist. I then caulked around the washer. By being slightly off center I was able to have the speaker wire come through the drywall and right into the speaker. Basically the speaker is completely flush mounted with no wires showing. I have the ported side aiming at the listening position and the other side aiming at the back wall which is roughly 24" away. I can post a pic if that will help. Good luck!

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Can anyone comment on Def Tech 7000sc and CRL 3000 center. REX
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I don't have the 7000sc, but I do have a CLR3000 center, and it is awesome. It is quite large and heavy though, so make sure you have room for it. I've got mine on a wall TV mount above my projection TV. I have PM900s as fronts and am very happy with them as well, and BPVX/Ps for surrounds. It's really a great system. I get lots of compliments about the sound.

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anyone heard the procinema 1000's yet? or mixed the 800's with mythos? anyone using an AV123 sub (ulw-10) with mythos or procinema?
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IlEagle,

How much do you notice the Super Cube II with the 7002s. I was debating whether to upgrade my 2006s to 7002s, or just add a sub.


The Supercube II is a powerhouse. I was VERY impressed with how such a small package can fill a room with tight, clean bass response.

When I used them supplementally with the 7002's - the result was golden. I auditioned a little of everything that I would put it through, and I couldn't be happier for the price point. I think this combo is going to stay with me for a couple years.
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Can the Def Tech 7002's be bi-wired or do they require one cable and connection.

Thanks!

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anyone heard the procinema 1000's yet? or mixed the 800's with mythos? anyone using an AV123 sub (ulw-10) with mythos or procinema?

I auditioned the 1000's last week at a Magnolia store. They were powered by the new Pio Elite -84 coupled with a 12" klipsch sub (don't remember the model).

I have never heard the 100's, but the 1000's sound great. The 1000's will definitely go on my recommendation list.

The 800's were not yet on display.
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thanks vinny, that was good to hear cause I will be most likely using a pion 84!
What price where they listed for?
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Can the Def Tech 7002's be bi-wired or do they require one cable and connection.

Thanks!

They can be bi wired.

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anyone ever notice that there is no gasket around the the edge of the sub on the 7002's?
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thanks vinny, that was good to hear cause I will be most likely using a pion 84!
What price where they listed for?

Magnolia has them listed for $199 a piece, which is msrp I believe. I don't remember what they had the center (procenter 1000) listed for.

I do believe Magnolia will give a discount for a package deal.

Good luck and happy listening-vinny
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They can be bi wired.

Technically they cant.You can run 2 seperate wires to the speaker and it will be a waste of time....

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what's a resonable price for a pair of used Def Tech BP1X speakers in good shape?
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Has anyone used the Omnimount CCH1 shelf to mount their CLR 2300 (or 2500 or 3000) on the top of a DLP monitor? I ask because I'm interested in getting the Toshiba HD-A1, but it won't fit in my cabinet given the components I already have. Right now I have my 2300 on the top shelf (right underneath the TV), angled up towards my listening position. If I were to move the 2300 to the top of the TV (which I would prefer anyway, although where it is now is fine), I could fit the HD-DVD player where the 2300 is now. However, I'm a little nervous about putting the hefty 2300 on the shelf. I can't find the weight of the 2300 online, and my manual is...ummmm....somewhere. Anyway, is this mount sturdy enough for the 2300? I know I could always put the HD-A1 on the omnimount, but for aesthetic and acoustic purposes, I would prefer the 2300 on top. Thanks in advance!

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hi gang. i currently own a pair of BP2002 (the pre 2002TL version) along with BPX surrounds. I have the CLR2002 center, but i'm using it in my other theater because i switched to a front projection setup and just couldn't figure out a WAF way to mount the beast on the wall, ceiling or above the fireplace. i've been dealing with 4.1 just fine for a while now, but would really like to have my center channel back. so, i've been kicking the idea round of adding a mythos 3 center channel because of it's form factor. i could pretty easily run the wiring in my atic and down the two walls i think and mount it above the top of my screen.

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do you think i'll have any problems with mismatch?

does the wall mount for the mythos give you any tilt capability?

mag hi-fi has the mythos 3 on sale for $460 through tuesday and i'm sort of interested in picking one up.

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Has anyone used the Omnimount CCH1 shelf to mount their CLR 2300 (or 2500 or 3000) on the top of a DLP monitor? I ask because I'm interested in getting the Toshiba HD-A1, but it won't fit in my cabinet given the components I already have. Right now I have my 2300 on the top shelf (right underneath the TV), angled up towards my listening position. If I were to move the 2300 to the top of the TV (which I would prefer anyway, although where it is now is fine), I could fit the HD-DVD player where the 2300 is now. However, I'm a little nervous about putting the hefty 2300 on the shelf. I can't find the weight of the 2300 online, and my manual is...ummmm....somewhere. Anyway, is this mount sturdy enough for the 2300? I know I could always put the HD-A1 on the omnimount, but for aesthetic and acoustic purposes, I would prefer the 2300 on top. Thanks in advance!

I have a 2300 mounted on the wall in my bedroom, and a 3000 mounted on the wall above my projection TV in the ht. I used wall bracket TV mounts for both, and they work great. No weight on the TV at all.

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Can anyone comment on Def Tech 7000sc and CRL 3000 center. REX

Def Tech's top of the line speakers are excellent (and yes I have those), but IMHO, if you have a dedicated subwoofer, you would be just as well off saving some money and purchasing the BP7001SC's. Also IMHO, a dedicated subwoofer is still needed even if you have the 7000's -- I tried them without one for a couple of months and then connected my old PF1800 sub and it made a substantial difference. Therefore, if you do not have a dedicated sub, I would recommend the purchase of one and then purchase the 7001's. YMMV

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Hey guys any of you Def Tech fans use pro amps with your setup? I have as most know here BP7002's mains,BPVX's for surround and CLR 2000 for center and SupercubeII. I use a 5 channel parasound amp and a B&K Ref50 S2. I just bought a QSC PLX-1104 two channel pro amp to obviously power the 2 main channels. What do you guys think of this setup being DT fans as I am? what do you think of using pro amps ingeneral for HT use? Thanks guys J.H.
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