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I Superman I's Avatar I Superman I 04:36 AM 03-06-2006
So from what i'm reading and understanding, if you set your 7002's to "LARGE" then you get their built in subs, but if you want to have those go along with your Supercube (SCII in my case) then you set it to "PLUS" ? lol, just wondering, i should be getting my def techs in the coming weeks and just getting absolutly EVERYTHING ironed out before the purchase.

PULLIAMM's Avatar PULLIAMM 06:45 AM 03-06-2006
I am considering rearranging my apartment. Unfortunately, this would involve moving my BP10's to a wall shared with a neighbor. I am concerned that the bipolar design and rear-facing port could make it excessively loud from my neighbor's point of view. Does anyone have experience with this? Am I right to be concerned?
J.H.'s Avatar J.H. 08:00 AM 03-06-2006
Yeah I don't know what to do. I may go Halo,sunfire or ATI but just don't know yet. Thanks J.H.
horrorfan2112's Avatar horrorfan2112 09:22 AM 03-06-2006
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I am considering rearranging my apartment. Unfortunately, this would involve moving my BP10's to a wall shared with a neighbor. I am concerned that the bipolar design and rear-facing port could make it excessively loud from my neighbor's point of view. Does anyone have experience with this? Am I right to be concerned?

I use bp10bs as fronts and I can assure you that your neighbor will have a problem with this . Maybe you could use some acoustic tiles on the walls to try to deaden the sound transfer. Just dn't tell your landlord.
cssnms's Avatar cssnms 11:23 AM 03-06-2006
Just ordered Mythos 5 tower speakers to accompany my HD 920 Elite and I cannot wait to get them!

This is my second step to building a nice HT system - got a ways to go. I still need a receiver (waiting on the Denon 2807), surrounds and a sub.
casey10s's Avatar casey10s 11:43 AM 03-06-2006
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Yeah I don't know what to do. I may go Halo,sunfire or ATI but just don't know yet. Thanks J.H.

I have the Halo A52 driving the BP7001sc. Originally had Rotels amps. The Halo gives a more clearer sound than the Rotels which I though sounded good. Just my opinion.
J.H.'s Avatar J.H. 11:57 AM 03-06-2006
Thanks Casey in the end that maybe be wat I do. From a person that owns tell me what you overall think about this amp? I want more power than my older 140 watts per channel Parasound amp puts out. How does this amp do with subtle sounds as well as sudden big jumps in sound? Is it really detailed? thanks J.H.
CrashNBurN's Avatar CrashNBurN 06:15 PM 03-06-2006
Front's: BP7002 (I just bought)
Center: Haven't decided yet...open for suggestions
Back Surround: In-Ceiling UIW 94/A
Subwoofer: JBL 12" enclosed (Looking to upgrade if you have suggestions)

Power: Denon 3806 & Denon 3910 w/HTS3600 MKII

here is a pic I took today of the towers...



casey10s's Avatar casey10s 06:54 PM 03-06-2006
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Thanks Casey in the end that maybe be wat I do. From a person that owns tell me what you overall think about this amp? I want more power than my older 140 watts per channel Parasound amp puts out. How does this amp do with subtle sounds as well as sudden big jumps in sound? Is it really detailed? thanks J.H.

First thing about the Halo was that it took about 3 to 4 days of playing it constantly before the sound settled down to what it is today. Like I mentioned, the Halo provides a lot more detail than the Rotels that I was using before and the Rotels were a big improvement over the Carver I had before that. I had the Halo on my older DT's (BP2004) and they produced more bass over the Rotels in fact I had a room peak around 80 Hz. This went away when I got the BP7001sc and put these up front and put the BP2004 as the surrounds.

The subtleties are pretty good with these speakers and amp. When playing something like a group 'Over the Rhine', the subtleties in the recording can be mesmerizing especially female voices. Playing some other stuff like Nine Inch Nails which can go from very loud to very soft to very loud again, it provides a pretty good kick and keeps up with no problems.

For fast response of the system, I use the opening of Sarah McLachlan's 'Building a Mystery". Around 17 seconds or so, it sounds like someone bumped a mic stand. I feel that if the system is slow responding, you won't hear it. But this comes through real clear on this amp and didn't necessarily on the Rotel. With the Halo, I hear a lot of details but sometimes I also hear the limits in the recording which can be disappointing. The topic of bad recordings are left for another day.

The A52 is rated for 120 watts but has a huge current reserve. I can drive the system to 105-110 db and no problems except that it is too loud and rattles the furniture upstairs. I could go a lot louder but don't want to break anything. The A51 seems to handle everything well from very acoustic material to very hard rock. I don't listen to much classical or jazz so I can't comment on this type of music.

If you go this way, you won't be dissappointed. I bought the amp at one store and the speakers at the other and both salespeople said the amp would be a great fit and don't worry about anything. The A51 of course has more power but I don't think that you would ever need it. From what I read, the electronics are the same between the 2 except for the final power section.
Gators2001's Avatar Gators2001 09:14 PM 03-06-2006
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Front's: BP7002 (I just bought)
Center: Haven't decided yet...open for suggestions
Back Surround: In-Ceiling UIW 94/A
Subwoofer: JBL 12" enclosed (Looking to upgrade if you have suggestions)

Power: Denon 3806 & Denon 3910 w/HTS3600 MKII

here is a pic I took today of the towers...



Nice set up.

Those 7002 should be atleast a foot or off the wall (just incase you didnt know). To have the Bi-Polar effect fill the room.
Gators2001's Avatar Gators2001 09:19 PM 03-06-2006
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So from what i'm reading and understanding, if you set your 7002's to "LARGE" then you get their built in subs, but if you want to have those go along with your Supercube (SCII in my case) then you set it to "PLUS" ? lol, just wondering, i should be getting my def techs in the coming weeks and just getting absolutly EVERYTHING ironed out before the purchase.


I would play with them to see what sounds best.

BUT yes to use all three subs are amp needs to have a feature such as the one i described in my Elite 74.


I read somewhere that some one had ur similar set up and had rwo different setting one for music or for movie. I cant remember how each was but i remember it was on this forum.
CrashNBurN's Avatar CrashNBurN 09:24 PM 03-06-2006
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Nice set up.

Those 7002 should be atleast a foot or off the wall (just incase you didnt know). To have the Bi-Polar effect fill the room.

I have them 6inches away from the wall. Do you recommend farther away?
Gators2001's Avatar Gators2001 09:31 PM 03-06-2006
yea, i think the DEFTECH home page goes into the whole physics behind it.

2 feet from the back is what is stuck in my head, but then every room is different.

test it... let me know, i love those things.

If it wasnt for my SVS 12; I would have gotten those.
J.H.'s Avatar J.H. 09:49 PM 03-06-2006
Thanks Casey for the review I appreciate it. J.H.
PULLIAMM's Avatar PULLIAMM 08:49 AM 03-07-2006
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I use bp10bs as fronts and I can assure you that your neighbor will have a problem with this . Maybe you could use some acoustic tiles on the walls to try to deaden the sound transfer. Just dn't tell your landlord.

I am going to try placing them well out from the wall, maybe 4 or 5 feet. This is not ideal, soundwise, but should eliminate the neighbor issue. I will post a follow-up on how they sound. (I am also considering pillows or footstools behind them to block some of the bass.)
flint350's Avatar flint350 10:40 AM 03-07-2006
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Front's: BP7002 (I just bought)Center: Haven't decided yet...open for suggestions

The recommended matching center is the CLR 2500. And pull those suckers out from that wall at least 2'.

I have the same front (BP7002's CLR 2500) with wall mounted BPX's for side surrounds and BP2X's for the rear 6.1/7.1 backfield. I'm waiting to decide if I really need a separate sub until after my install is complete. I've had a sub connect plate pre-wired just in case, but I'm waiting to see how it sounds w/o sub first. I got an e-mail direct from DefTech saying that in my typical setup, many don't find a sub necessary - but - if you do, they recommend the SuperCube 1. My room is 20'wide by 32' long, though the real HT area is the first 16' with 1 row of seating at 15'. I'm assuming they recommend the Cube I bcz, regardless of seating, the room does have a lot of space (onver 600 sq. ft.)
alazay's Avatar alazay 12:17 PM 03-07-2006
im looking into the same setup deftech 7002/2500/bpx 6.1 surround, also going with the sc1
i checked it out at magnolia it sounded awesome.
alazay's Avatar alazay 12:18 PM 03-07-2006
oh also picked up the pioneer VSX-74TXVi one piece of the puzzle complete.
Dwalk03's Avatar Dwalk03 11:27 PM 03-07-2006
So I ordered My new Hometheater setup which consists of BP7001SC, CLR3000, and BPVX/P powered by by a pioneer 74TXVi. I've done much research and liked Definitve sound alot. Im Excited
J.H.'s Avatar J.H. 06:14 AM 03-08-2006
Oh that is one awesome setup. You are going to love it. Much low end bass in that system. Enjoy and let us know what you think when you get it all set up. J.H.
HT_New_Guy's Avatar HT_New_Guy 09:04 AM 03-08-2006
is there anywhere I can get Def Tech Speakers online or for a good discount? I Really lke the idea of the BP7001SC, CLR300, BPX set-up, but it is outside of my price range...
g_bartman's Avatar g_bartman 10:48 AM 03-08-2006
I dont know of any online discount authorized def tech dealers. You may want to consider used via audiogon.com or ebay. I saw your "ultimate speakers" post and have some suggestions. Dt would definitly fit into the "fill the room with sound" catigory. I have had mine for going on 7 years and have not gotten tired of them. I would advise anyone to find a way to hear ANY speaker before you buy. There are some good online only companies which have reasonable return polocies but deftech is not one of them. Do your best to listen to them before you buy. You could go with 7002's, bp2x c'/l/'r 2500 and a good sub and still be in your budget.
PULLIAMM's Avatar PULLIAMM 06:44 AM 03-09-2006
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I am going to try placing them well out from the wall, maybe 4 or 5 feet. This is not ideal, soundwise, but should eliminate the neighbor issue. I will post a follow-up on how they sound. (I am also considering pillows or footstools behind them to block some of the bass.)

A follow-up: I listened from behind the speakers, near the wall, and it was still way loud compared to direct-radiating speakers. In the sweet spot, most of the advantage of the bipolar design was lost, and there were problems with room resonances being excited by the bass. I have returned to my original setup, with the BP10's in my isolated HT room and my Athenas in the living room. I am appreciating the Athena's more now, because of this experiment. If I do upgrade them, it will be to speakers that are also direct-radiating with front ports and no bass below 40hz.
Gators2001's Avatar Gators2001 07:11 AM 03-09-2006
That sucks that you didnt enjoy them. Yea i think 4 feet was way to much; somewhere around 2+or- 6inchs depending on the room.

Well you cant loose with Athenas either enjoy.
Pier Pressure's Avatar Pier Pressure 03:20 PM 03-13-2006
New system for your review.
Main 7001
Center clr 3000
surrounds and back surrounds 7006

I just ordered the Anthem avm 50, mca 50 and mca 20 today. I would like to know your thoughts on the Anthem equipment with the def techs
Naylia's Avatar Naylia 04:25 PM 03-13-2006
New Deftech owner, I picked up a pair of openbox ProMonitor 100 MXIIs last week while on vacation and am quite happy with them...contemplating replacing my front/center with Mythos Four/Three
J.H.'s Avatar J.H. 04:37 PM 03-13-2006
Pier pressure are you serious? Thats your new system? Wow thats going to be insane brother. I would say that system is going to knock your socks off. Your going to have serious low end bass. Good luck with that system. Give us a review at some point. J.H.
khellandros66's Avatar khellandros66 09:09 PM 03-13-2006
Pier, that practically gave me a nose bleed, you are sick, but thats what my dream system is LOL ;-)

~Bob
Naylia's Avatar Naylia 01:20 PM 03-14-2006
Just wanted to share that I had minor issue with my open box speakers...when I hooked them up one had a broken banana plug on the back that I did not notice at the store since it wasn't apparent until I unscrewed them. I called DefTech and promptly was able to speak to Chet, who was very helpful and offered me either the option of shipping them to deftech for repair or he could also send me the speaker connection right away and I could repair it myself. I opted for the second option as he assured me it'd be quite easy and he walked me through the steps. I just wanted to share that I was very happy with their prompt service and helpful attitude and it's nice to be able to call a company up and actually talk to someone without going through an answering system menu maze .
PULLIAMM's Avatar PULLIAMM 01:28 PM 03-14-2006
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Just wanted to share that I had minor issue with my open box speakers...when I hooked them up one had a broken banana plug on the back that I did not notice at the store since it wasn't apparent until I unscrewed them. I called DefTech and promptly was able to speak to Chet, who was very helpful and offered me either the option of shipping them to deftech for repair or he could also send me the speaker connection right away and I could repair it myself. I opted for the second option as he assured me it'd be quite easy and he walked me through the steps. I just wanted to share that I was very happy with their prompt service and helpful attitude and it's nice to be able to call a company up and actually talk to someone without going through an answering system menu maze .

I have sent Chet a couple of questions via email. His responses have been quick, freindly, and helpful.
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