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post #151 of 31567 Old 03-14-2006, 12:41 PM
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Hello,

Pier Pressure,

I have the 7000SC,CLR300 center, the Trinity sub and 4 of the BPVX/P for rears. I wanted to go the way you have your surrounds. I let the dealer talk me into the BPVX/P. His comment was to stay with the same drivers all around. I am thinking on going your way on the rears. Let us know what you think when you set it up.

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No disrepsect to you Mythos owners but did any of you demo these along with the athena ws-100s? If so any input would be greatly appreciated
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Just to give an update. I changed my equipment order to the Anthem A5 and A2. Also went for the new D2. Hope it will be in by the end of the week.
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This is the system I put together over the last year.
I would definitely recommend Halos with the Def Techs.

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HDTV: Panasonic - 50PHD8UK
Amp: Parasound - Halo A52
Pre/pro: Parasound - Halo C2
Front: Definitive Technology 7002
Center: Definitive Technology CLR2002
Surround: Definitive Technology BPX
DVD: Denon 2900
DVD: NeuNeo 2085
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so say I also want to use the Supercube along with these built in subs, would setting that sub to NO disable that supercube subwoofer or would it just do that for the mains/center? I would like to use ALL of those built in subs, so how would that work?

Sorry, haven't checked this thread in a while.

Yes, it would disable the sub. Set your reveiver to sub "yes."

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I have a new, sealed pair of Mythos Ones (silver) if anyone is interested, PM me
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I don't know how much of an upgrade it would be because I am using BPVX's for surround speakers but I suspect its a really nice upgrade. I sure wish I would have went for BPVX/P's now. With that being said you would place the BPVX/P's in the surround position and the BPVX in the back surround or Dolby EX/DTS-ES position. That would sound absolutely incredible. Also when you go to upgrade the receiver I would go with separates if you have the money. I have Parasound separates and will never look back. Its the best way to get the most of your speakers. J.H.

jh, when you say you have separates how many amps do you have and which ones run which speakers? if it improves sound quality i might just go that way.
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I have a 5 channel Parasound amp and the Parasound 7100 processor. Soon I am going to switch to 5 mono amps for each channel working with the Parasound 7100. I am going to either go with 5 B&K mono amps or 5 Rotel digital mono amps. In my opinion theres not a receiver alive that can touch the sound of separates. Thats just my opinion. The sound is more poweful and clearer due to the processor side interfering with the amp section. The channel separation is incredible. I would go that route if I had the money. You can even go with cheaper Outlaw separates and I garuntee it will sound incredible. J.H.
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Hello,

Pier Pressure,

I have the 7000SC,CLR300 center, the Trinity sub and 4 of the BPVX/P for rears. I wanted to go the way you have your surrounds. I let the dealer talk me into the BPVX/P. His comment was to stay with the same drivers all around. I am thinking on going your way on the rears. Let us know what you think when you set it up.

Thanks,

rmlowz

i've already done 2 months of off and on research. i've listened to the above mentioned speakers. gonna include b&w on my list of speakers. whats your take on m&k, a lot of people talk highly of them but i have never heard them for myself. thanks for the advice.
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I have head good things about the M&k speakers as well but I have fell in love with the Def Techs when i first heard them with the soundstage they present. Are you listening to primarily two channel music or listening to home theater side. the def's do well at both. The only opinion that counts is what your preference is. The def's or the M&K's. What type of equipment are you using that will also detemine performance.
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I have a 5 channel Parasound amp and the Parasound 7100 processor. Soon I am going to switch to 5 mono amps for each channel working with the Parasound 7100. I am going to either go with 5 B&K mono amps or 5 Rotel digital mono amps. In my opinion theres not a receiver alive that can touch the sound of separates. Thats just my opinion. The sound is more poweful and clearer due to the processor side interfering with the amp section. The channel separation is incredible. I would go that route if I had the money. You can even go with cheaper Outlaw separates and I garuntee it will sound incredible. J.H.


don't overlook used Marantz monoblocks. they sound great and you'll save some cash...


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Where can I get them at though? I hgeard those old Marantz monoblocks were incredible. J.H.
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If you are looking for a great brand to switch to Triad is good choice. M&K is too. I think it would be hard to like just ONE brand, more truthfully you PREFER a brand.

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Where can I get them at though? I heard those old Marantz monoblocks were incredible. J.H.


ebay or audiogon.

retail was $500 each when new. i bought 2 new, and the other 5 for ~$300 ea. used...

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I have a definitve setup.
Fronts - BP 6B
Center - Pro Center 100
Rears - Pro Monitor 80's
Sub - SVS 20-39PC+
Receiver - Sony STR-DB940

Looking for some possible upgrading. Unfortunately I don't have floor space to use any towers in the rear. Im wondering what speakers would blend well with the Fronts. The Center is my main priority. Is it worth finding a Pro Center C2. Or should I jump to the CLR 2002.

Also whats a good receiver for these?? Im looking to buy a receiver soon in the $300-500 range.
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Thanks David those monblocks were only $500 each? That seems like a great price for THX monoblocks right? What do you think of going with Outlaw Monoblocks? Thanks J.H.
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couldn't say, never heard them. but i would guess they'll be better than a single box multi-channel amp.

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Hi guys, in the process of my latest upgrades, I'll be ordering the following tomorrow...

BP7001's (Mains)
C/L/R 3000 (Center)
BPVX (Surrounds)
BPVX (Rear Surrounds)
Super Cube Reference (2) (Subwoofers)



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Awesome setup S.cane you will be very happy with those speakers. What are you using to power the system separates or a receiver? J.H.
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Awesome setup S.cane you will be very happy with those speakers. What are you using to power the system separates or a receiver? J.H.

Well, both actually. lol

I've got the Pioneer Elite VSX-74TXVi that I use as my pre/pro, as well as to power my surrounds. Then for my mains and center channel, I'm running 3 Outlaw 2200 M-Blocks. They're not Carvers, or McIntosh, but they're not bad for no more then what they cost.

I hope to upgrade my amps next, and with a little more luck, they'll be either Carver or McIntosh's. Once that's accomplished, I'll then be ready to move the Elite upstairs and upgrade that with a dedicated pre/pro.



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Follow everyone, I am new to this forum and I am considering the following Def Tech speakers: 7004 for the fronts with the 2500 center. For the moment, I will keep by Energy C-CR3s for the surround channels. I will be auditioning these speakers this week, but I have a few questions:

1. Is the 7004's worth the extra money over the 7006? (Local dealer does not have 7006's available for audition)
2. My plan is to sell my subwoofer (Paradigm PW-2100) once I acquire the Def Tech speakers. Is this a mistake, will I still need a stand alone subwoofer with the towers? If I still need a standalone subwoofer, is it then better to buy the BP10 or PB8 towers instead?
3. Currently, my setup only allows for the center channel to sit atop my RPTV via a Sanus self. Will this setup create problems for the 2500? I am concerned the build in subwoofer may cause unwanted vibrations on top of the television.

Sorry, for the laundry list of questions, but I figured the Def Tech experts on this forum could help answer these questions for me. Any input you have will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance
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1. Is the 7004's worth the extra money over the 7006? (Local dealer does not have 7006's available for audition)
2. My plan is to sell my subwoofer (Paradigm PW-2100) once I acquire the Def Tech speakers. Is this a mistake, will I still need a stand alone subwoofer with the towers? If I still need a standalone subwoofer, is it then better to buy the BP10 or PB8 towers instead?
3. Currently, my setup only allows for the center channel to sit atop my RPTV via a Sanus self. Will this setup create problems for the 2500? I am concerned the build in subwoofer may cause unwanted vibrations on top of the television.

Goditas,

If it were me, I'd try to jump up to the 7002's, if possible. Big difference between the 7004's and 7002's, IMO.

As for selling your sub, I wouldn't, but again, I'm only speaking for myself. I've found not having a dedicated sub just doesn't quite cut the mustard, even with the subs in the towers. Others could probably explain why better then what I could.

And as to your center channel, I'll let other advise you on that, for I've got a front projector and can't really speak to well on that matter.

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Goditas,

I guess I should also add, that if it's not possible to make the jump up to the 7002's, then I'd have to say that, yes, the 7004's would be worth the upgrade from the 7006's.

The 7006's have 4 1/2" drivers, along with an 8" sub, where as the 7004's have 5 1/4" drivers with a 10" sub, which would be a better match with the C/L/R 2500, IMO.

Hope this helps a little.

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Keep the sub. Im not sure how good that sub you have is, since I haven't heard it myself, But The subs have good dedicated Amps. Its on seperate channel for sound, 5.1 = 5 speakers 1 LFE/sub channel. Also most dedicated subs go lower than tower subs. You will want to blend them all together to get a good smooth bass, and if needed might upgrade your sub later on.
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The first couple of times that I tried using my BP10b's as 2-channel music speakers I concluded, as others have, that they were not as well suited for that as for movies. I was wrong. The key is set-up, and correctly set-up they are awesome for music.
After much experimentation, I have ignored the manufacturer's recommendation and placed them as far from all walls as my room allows (8' from back wall, 10' from front wall, 2' from each side wall, 6' apart.) This makes the bipolar design a subtle "barely there" enhancement of the soundstage rather than a dominant feature, and tames the massive bass so that it does not overwhelm the higher frequencies. (The exact distances from the listening position, and the amount of toe-in also required a lot of fine-tuning.)
With these changes, the BP10's are now utterly flawless for music. I have never heard better sounding speakers at any price!
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Thanks for the answer guys. The problem I have with keeping my current subwoofer is that my preamp does not support an enhanced bass function (send LFE to subwoofer and large speakers). If I set my speakers to "Large" with subwoofer set to "Yes". The large speakers will receive every frequency, but the LFE, which will still be sent to the sub. I could use a splitter for the LFE output, but I do not know of any device that will allow me to split an LFE output four ways (three Def Tech speakers and current sub)
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Interesting reading, nice to have a dedicated DT thread.
I am in a decision dilema, a good one however. I have the following DT
setup: Mains BP2000, Center CLR3000, Rear BP2002, Pio VSX-815 7.1 in Biamp
mode with the mains wired seperately to highs and mids. The BP2000 subwoofers
are fed the signal from the Pio's sub out y'd to each main tower. The L/R are set to
"small" the C to "Large" the L/R Surrounds to "Large". I am looking for advice on
purchasing the Trinity vs Reference subwoofer. My room is 28' long x 26' wide with
a 10' 6" ceiling. I like movies but also purchased a few DVD-A and SACD and enjoy
listening to the diverse engineering mixes of studios/bands. I am buying the system
piecemeal as my budget permits. I figure investing in a speaker system first will build a
great sonic foundation for a system that I will appreciate for many years. My next purchase
will be seperate amps as recommended by everyone.
Sorry for the long post. Looking forward to everyone's advice.

Thanks
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BP2000 have you considered replacing your mains (bp 2000) and moving them to surrounds and purchasing the new 7000 or 7001's. That would be a great system on 7.1. You cannot get better sounding speakers than floorstanding speakers. The 7001's would be almost the same price as the trinity. I recently purchased the Anthem A5, A2, and D2. The D2 has not arrived yet have a loner Avm 20 but the sound change from my Onkyo receiver is incredible. The Anthem equipment is a good bang for the buck. Any questions just ask.
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Well, I haven't joined the club yet, but will be in a couple weeks when my house is finished. I'm going to be getting:

BP7002s main, CLR2500 center, and BPXs (or maybe the BP2x) for the surrounds. Matching that up with the new Sony SXRD 60" and a Pioneer Elite VSX72TV.

My room is about 12 ft wide by 29 feet in length, with the watching area 12 by 15 or so. Not getting a sub now (want to see how this sounds first). If I do, I'll probably get a SuperCubeII.
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Very nice system enjoy the Definitives. Let us know what you think when you get it all going. J.H.
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