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logicators's Avatar logicators 10:10 AM 03-09-2012
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This is all great info - thanks everyone!

Just to be clear, I have a 1121, not a 1120. I don't remember the exact specifics, but I do recall there is a pretty good step up from the 1120 to the 1121.

Indeed, floorstanders are not in the cards. I was more trying to get a feel for xt32 vs mcacc instead of new speakers. From the sounds of it, speakers will have a much greater impact vs the upgrade from mcacc to xt32.

Thanks again!

Some guy on audiogon is selling 5 CLR2002s and a pair of BP2X for a reasonable price. If you can find a way to wall mount CLR2002s (others on this forum have done that, I believe...). Get those speakers and an ID sub and you will have an excellent sound system.

LowTech1's Avatar LowTech1 12:52 PM 03-09-2012
I got the 8060 center last night and just ordered the 8060st's and 8040 surrounds.. :P
Kini62's Avatar Kini62 01:43 PM 03-09-2012
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I got the 8060 center last night and just ordered the 8060st's and 8040 surrounds.. :P

Looking forward to "hearing" your opinion on these as I'm contemplating a setup like that.

Trying to decide between the 8060s and the 8040s. With the 8040s I'd probably add a $400 or less sub for a LFE boost only.

Thanks
LowTech1's Avatar LowTech1 02:16 PM 03-09-2012
I was gonna go with the 40's,but I got the 60's for the same price and the 40's are out of stock. No brainer.. With the incredible difference between the C1 and the 8060 powered center,I just new I had to have all def tech.. Breaking in the 15's would have to be night and day,which they aren't gonna be. I already have at least 100 hrs on them..
Kini62's Avatar Kini62 02:31 PM 03-09-2012
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I was gonna go with the 40's,but I got the 60's for the same price and the 40's are out of stock. No brainer.. With the incredible difference between the C1 and the 8060 powered center,I just new I had to have all def tech.. Breaking in the 15's would have to be night and day,which they aren't gonna be. I already have at least 100 hrs on them..

You lost me after the 40's are out of stock

That's great you could get the 60s for the same price. For me it is list price and $400 more for the pair, hence the $400 I might put towards an inexpensive sub that makes movie booms. Something along the lines of one of the Bics or Polk 505.

Thanks
LowTech1's Avatar LowTech1 03:02 PM 03-09-2012
Are the 20's too small for you? I think the 60's are gonna be total overkill for my room. But couldn't pass up the price..
Kini62's Avatar Kini62 03:39 PM 03-09-2012
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Are the 20's too small for you? I think the 60's are gonna be total overkill for my room. But couldn't pass up the price..

No idea. Room is 13x14x9 and can be sealed off via 2 doors.

With the 60s I might not need or want a separate sub (at least for a while )

With the 40s I'm thinking I might want a little more oomph between the low to mid 20s and up.

I'm undecided at this point whether to go with a pair of STs or the new SM55s and one big sub or a pair of smaller subs.

The SMs with one large sub is the about the same price as a pair of 40s and about $400 less than a pair of 60s.

With the SMs I give up the bipolar aspect but with the STs I have 2 subs for better bass distribution although with less extension and probably less output than 1 large sub.

I'm conflicted to say the least. I've got a couple of months before I need to make a decision though.

Thanks
LowTech1's Avatar LowTech1 03:55 PM 03-09-2012
Do the 40's then.. Your room sounds similar to mine ,but mine is an L shape,which is going to make me re arrange it this weekend I think.. I'm not looking forward to it. But it will be well worth it.
chikoo's Avatar chikoo 07:13 PM 03-09-2012
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Some guy on audiogon is selling 5 CLR2002s and a pair of BP2X for a reasonable price. If you can find a way to wall mount CLR2002s (others on this forum have done that, I believe...). Get those speakers and an ID sub and you will have an excellent sound system.

I got new ones (CLR 2002) for cheaper with free shipping from Electronics Expo.
logicators's Avatar logicators 08:08 PM 03-09-2012
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I got new ones (CLR 2002) for cheaper with free shipping from Electronics Expo.

Cool! He should call them.
koicraft's Avatar koicraft 11:19 PM 03-09-2012
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Coming from two pairs of BP2000s to 7000SCs for mains and BP2000s for side surounds, my honest opinion would be no, the 7000s alone are not a huge leap in performance over the 2000s. Im not one that can properly articulate how a speaker performs/sounds but the original sealed BP2000s can definitely hold their own against the 7000s. Are the 7000s better, yes. But it's just a subtle difference in the top end and a more defined "slam or punch" in the low end.
Given the very few opportunities / good deals on used-mint 7000s, I jumped on a pair for the shear purpose of checking them out and it also allowed me to utilize a pair of my BP2000s in another room. The "upgrade" worked for me yet again, if one was just swapping out 2000s for 7000s to hopefully garnish a significant sonic upgrade,, there would be better value for your money elsewhere. Just my honest opinion - yet I do love my 7000s..... :-)

I don't claim to know how dynamic the wides/highs are in an Audyssey setup yet I also feel your 2000s would be under utilized in that capacity. :-)

My current:
BP7000SC's - mains
CLR3000 - center
BP2000's - side surrounds
UIW75's - rears
BP2X's - 4 presence channels

It's all good. :-)

Cheers

KJSmitty - thank you for posting an honest first-hand comparison of your experience with the BP2000 vs BP7000. As a BP2000 owner, I have indeed wondered what I might be missing in the newer line while at the same time wondered how it could get much better than this.
joepags's Avatar joepags 05:07 AM 03-10-2012
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I got new ones (CLR 2002) for cheaper with free shipping from Electronics Expo.

Cool. I think the dude on audiogon is in cali and I'm in CT. God only knows how much shipping would be.

Thanks!
badgerpilot's Avatar badgerpilot 07:34 AM 03-10-2012
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Cool. I think the dude on audiogon is in cali and I'm in CT. God only knows how much shipping would be.

Thanks!

With Electronics Expo, you need to call to get the best price. I know it was already mentioned but I wanted to make sure you knew that
joepags's Avatar joepags 08:16 AM 03-10-2012
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With Electronics Expo, you need to call to get the best price. I know it was already mentioned but I wanted to make sure you knew that

So I've done a small bit of research - not finished yet but could use some more perspective.....

The clr seems very deep to me - 12" cabinet would protrude from the wall quite far. So, I'm now thinking mythos xtr-50, 8 or 9. Obviously the xtr is attractive due to the thin cabinet. However logic tells me the sound would pale to the 8's or 9's - the trade off. So, the question is how do the 3 compare to each other?

Also, what would be a good matching surround option? Unfortunately my couch is up against the back wall and the surrounds are in the same plane as the primary listening seat. Cabinet depth of surrounds isn't as big of a concern - I'm thinking gem xl's would offer better SQ than the xtr-20bp's. True? Also, assuming either would be appropriate for surrounds and no need to use the same as the l/c/r and have to buy 5 of the same, right?

Thanks!
Uncanny1's Avatar Uncanny1 08:24 AM 03-10-2012
Any info on the brand new Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 65
bookshelf speakers? I cannot find any review on them anywhere. Are they worth $400 something each? What center channel will go with them?
joepags's Avatar joepags 09:05 AM 03-10-2012
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So I've done a small bit of research - not finished yet but could use some more perspective.....

The clr seems very deep to me - 12" cabinet would protrude from the wall quite far. So, I'm now thinking mythos xtr-50, 8 or 9. Obviously the xtr is attractive due to the thin cabinet. However logic tells me the sound would pale to the 8's or 9's - the trade off. So, the question is how do the 3 compare to each other?

Also, what would be a good matching surround option? Unfortunately my couch is up against the back wall and the surrounds are in the same plane as the primary listening seat. Cabinet depth of surrounds isn't as big of a concern - I'm thinking gem xl's would offer better SQ than the xtr-20bp's. True? Also, assuming either would be appropriate for surrounds and no need to use the same as the l/c/r and have to buy 5 of the same, right?

Thanks!

One other thing I forgot to mention - I have a pioneer avr (mcacc) that will only allow one crossover for all speakers.

Thanks!
LowTech1's Avatar LowTech1 09:44 AM 03-10-2012
Wow,no one is going to welcome me to the def tech family?
otk's Avatar otk 09:58 AM 03-10-2012
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Wow,no one is going to welcome me to the def tech family?

WELCOME !!!!!!!!!!!






congrats on the new system



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LowTech1's Avatar LowTech1 10:05 AM 03-10-2012
Thanks man.. lol Can't wait to get them.. The CS8060HD is so awesome!!
chikoo's Avatar chikoo 10:12 AM 03-10-2012
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I got the 8060 center last night and just ordered the 8060st's and 8040 surrounds.. :P

welcome to the definitive sound family.

Any schematic, layout, other av equipment that makes up your man cave?
otk's Avatar otk 10:26 AM 03-10-2012
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Thanks man.. lol Can't wait to get them.. The CS8060HD is so awesome!!

cool. i believe my first def tech speaker was the clr2000 and built up from there

i already had a def tech sub or maybe a pair of them so when i got that first center speaker i was pretty psyched
josh6113's Avatar josh6113 10:46 AM 03-10-2012
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I got the 8060 center last night and just ordered the 8060st's and 8040 surrounds.. :P

I own the 8060-st's and am saving up for the 8060 center....the 8060-st towers are awsome!....they put out clear loud sound...and the 10 inch subs in the towers put out great bass....caught me off guard...lol....but placement is key......let me know how you like them.......and congrats on the speakers and WELCOME!
LowTech1's Avatar LowTech1 11:07 AM 03-10-2012
Thank you guys.. I have a goofy layout. Its basically an L shape. I'm going to re arrange my basement tomorrow. They way it will be set up will be really good. it will let me space out the fronts more. Should I mount the bipole 8040 surrounds on the back wall or behind me on the sides?
g_bartman's Avatar g_bartman 12:45 PM 03-10-2012
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Thank you guys.. I have a goofy layout. Its basically an L shape. I'm going to re arrange my basement tomorrow. They way it will be set up will be really good. it will let me space out the fronts more. Should I mount the bipole 8040 surrounds on the back wall or behind me on the sides?

On the Side would probably be best.
chikoo's Avatar chikoo 12:55 PM 03-10-2012
I went with back surround dipole and did not regret it at all. Try that out too.
LowTech1's Avatar LowTech1 01:30 PM 03-10-2012
I have dipoles now.. Where did you put yours?
HDpalooza's Avatar HDpalooza 02:28 PM 03-10-2012
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wow,no one is going to welcome me to the def tech family?

welcome newcomer!
chikoo's Avatar chikoo 07:44 PM 03-10-2012
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I have dipoles now.. Where did you put yours?

This should help


raehza's Avatar raehza 08:11 PM 03-10-2012
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This should help



Hey,

I currently have a 5.1 system and will upgrade to a 7.1 in the near future and have a question about some of my speakers placements.

If you don't mind, I'd like to use your graphic.

My gear:

Denon 2112 Ci
2x Floor stands DefTech 8020ST
1x Center DefTech 8040HD
2x Dep Tech Promonitor 1k's as rears.


I'd like to buy 2 more surrounds and have looked at the SR-8040BP and the 8080BP's. The BPVX's are out of the question because they are out of my price range and overkill compared to my other speakers. At least I think so.

Anyways, would it be better to place my 2x PM1k's as my Rear Surrounds (behind the listeners) and the SR's as my Right and Left Rear surrounds (on my walls to the left and right of the listening positions) or the other way around?

Going by your own graphic, it makes more sense using the BPs as the Rear Surround behind the listeners, especially since they are BiPolar, but I'm not sure if that's the right choice.

Ray
truwarrior22's Avatar truwarrior22 10:36 PM 03-10-2012
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Thanks man.. lol Can't wait to get them.. The CS8060HD is so awesome!!

Exciting, congrats!
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