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post #26161 of 31708 Old 03-18-2012, 07:50 PM
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Thanks for the tip josh What about speaker calibration and crossovers?
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Thanks for the tip josh What about speaker calibration and crossovers?

What receiver are you using?
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Onkyo 805
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Onkyo 805

Have you looked at the Audyssey thread? Off the top of my head first thing I would do is set the front three back to small with an 80 crossover. Audyssey works fine with my bipolars so it's probably a setup issue.
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audyssey set them up all large..
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audyssey set them up all large..

Yeah it does that with most badass def techs. Look at the Audyssey thread or even google ask Audyssey...9 times out of 10 they recommend all speakers set to small regardless of what the calibration says. You're using an outboard sub right? If so definitely try the fronts as small.
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Yes I have a Klipsch 12" down firing sub.. My onkyo doesn't have settings for small per se'.. Just hz.. Why set them to small?
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Yes I have a Klipsch 12" down firing sub.. My onkyo doesn't have settings for small per se'.. Just hz.. Why set them to small?

don't set them small...otherwise the subs in your towers are wasted in my opinion....leave them large and let them do there thing...

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I agree with that Josh. It doesn't make sense to neuter the subs.. Unless that doesn't affect them.
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Yes I have a Klipsch 12" down firing sub.. My onkyo doesn't have settings for small per se'.. Just hz.. Why set them to small?

https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries...udyssey-set-up

Straight from the horses mouth. Check the Audyssey thread out and you'll find lots of knowledgeable, helpful folks over there. I'm also going to guess the onkyo will let you adjust speaker size....apparently you have to choose a certain crossover for the onkyo to consider a speaker large or small. Weird...
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don't set them small...otherwise the subs in your towers are wasted in my opinion....leave them large and let them do there thing...

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I agree with that Josh. It doesn't make sense to neuter the subs.. Unless that doesn't affect them.

check out the bass management link on the ask audyssey site. I think it will clear some things up for you guys
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So what would be considered small on my onkyo.. There is no small setting,just 40hz and up..
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So what would be considered small on my onkyo.. There is no small setting,just 40hz and up..

Got me there. Im a denon owner. Might head to the 805 thread and ask.
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Got me there. Im a denon owner. Might head to the 805 thread and ask.

40hz is actually a great setting for the powered DT towers. Everything below 40hz would then be directed to your sub(s). Set at 40hz you're not neutering your towers. Rather just running them where they really shine - the rest/lower goes to your sub where hopefully it really shines.... :-)

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Now that makes sense Smitty..
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of course and an acoustically transparent screen to put the 3 main bp7000s behind and a nice 4K projector

Don't forget to inlcude a nice home in the hills, with a great view, to enhance the listening experience...plus a fully stocked refrigerator.
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The bipolar speakers bounce off the wall behind the speakers right? How far from the wall behind the speaker should the speaker be?

Hello Low,
We usually suggest 2-3 feet from the rear wall, and 2-3 feet from the side walls. But again, as per the discussion before, this is room dependent. They sound good closer to the walls too, but not all rooms (and significant others) can accomodate much distance from the walls. So the best suggestion is to experiment, and see what works in your room.
One of the benefits of the BP 8000 Series design is that they are a bit more "room friendly". The rear firing output is down by 6 db compared to the fronts, which makes them easier to place. I hope this helps - best, Joe
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40hz is actually a great setting for the powered DT towers. Everything below 40hz would then be directed to your sub(s). Set at 40hz you're not neutering your towers. Rather just running them where they really shine - the rest/lower goes to your sub where hopefully it really shines.... :-)

Cheers.

+1. You beat me to it.

You need to look at the frequency response of the speakers and the sub. The crossover determines what frequency goes to the speaker vs the sub.
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I generally run my towers(7001) at 40hz with my center(CLR1000b) and BPX's at 60hz. Small on an Onkyo is any crossover 40hz and up.
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Thanks guys. What about my 8060HD center.. It has an 8" powered sub in it..
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Thanks guys. What about my 8060HD center.. It has an 8" powered sub in it..

I have my CLR-3000 (with 10" sub) crossed at 60 Hz. KJSmitty and others have done the same.
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Cool ty,I'll try that..
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Thanks guys. What about my 8060HD center.. It has an 8" powered sub in it..

Because my pioneer reciever only supports a single global crossover setting I use 50hz for all channels. If I could cross each channel individually I would also run my 8060hd at 60hz and the towers at 40hz.
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I generally run my towers(7001) at 40hz with my center(CLR1000b) and BPX's at 60hz. Small on an Onkyo is any crossover 40hz and up.

I used to hve an Onkyo 805 driving my 7001's, clr 3000's bp20's and bpvx's. I also had three subs at the time. Audyssey set my 01's to large, I changed that to 40hz. It set my 3k to large, I changed it to 60 hz. It set the bpvx's to 60, I left that, set my 20's to 40, left that.

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Wouldn't it make sense to put the rear of the 8060st's right in front of the wall ,wouldn't that disperse the sound better?
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which do you think are better tower speakers def tech bp 10s or energy rc 50
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No one has bought the new bookshelf speakers?
No reviews yet?
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No one has bought the new bookshelf speakers?
No reviews yet?

Hi Mac Daddy, we have already sold out of the first production run. We are trying like mad to build more, as we have plenty of orders. I will post the reviews next (although you are looking for AVS reviewers, I'd guess). Best, Joe
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Wouldn't it make sense to put the rear of the 8060st's right in front of the wall ,wouldn't that disperse the sound better?

Hello Low, we usually recommend 2-3 feet away from the back and side walls for the BP 8000 series products. They have rear-firing drivers, and the sound stage is noticeably better when you pull them out a bit. If you mean the CS 8060 HD center channel (which is not bipolar, but forward-firing), even a conventional speaker may sound a bit better if it isn't butted up against a wall or cabinet. I hope this helps - best, Joe
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