Ascend SE Owner's Thread - Page 10 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-16-2006, 04:18 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
millerwill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 11,445
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Liked: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam1000 View Post

I want to buy the 340 center and wall mount it above my plasma. Are there any recommendations from you guys who might already have done that? I looked at b15 mounts, are there any other options?

Here is a DIY rig I use (parts from home depot): 1st pic the front view, and the 2nd the rear showing the shelf.
LL
LL
millerwill is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-17-2006, 11:35 AM
Senior Member
 
Ready2Buy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 220
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

The best thing about the 200's as surrounds--other than being very fine speakers--is that they can be mounted right on the wall since they are not rear-ported like the 170's (and 340's).

You mean we can't mount the 170's on the wall? What's wrong with that?
Ready2Buy is offline  
Old 03-17-2006, 11:39 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
cschang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
Posts: 14,783
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Liked: 82
The CBM-170SE cannot be mounting flush against a wall since it is rear ported....it a few inches of clearance. There are some mounting solutions that provide this.

The HTM-200 is not ported, so it can go right up against the wall, which make mounting easier.

-curtis

Owner of Wave Crest Audio
Volunteer Mod at the Ascend Acoustics Forum
Like all things on the Internet, do your research, as forums have a good amount of misinformation.
Help beat breast cancer!

cschang is offline  
Old 03-17-2006, 02:46 PM
Senior Member
 
Ready2Buy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 220
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
[quote=cschang]The CBM-170SE cannot be mounting flush against a wall since it is rear ported....it a few inches of clearance. There are some mounting solutions that provide this.
QUOTE]

How many inches of clearance does it need? Is 2" OK? Can you refer me to the mounting solutions you are talking about? Is there a link to them? Thanks.
Ready2Buy is offline  
Old 03-17-2006, 09:04 PM
Gov
AVS Special Member
 
Gov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NW Burbs of Chgo, IL
Posts: 3,274
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Liked: 118
Ascend recommends at least 3" if crossed at 80hz.




Panny TC-P65VT60 (calibrated by Chad B), Denon AVR-4311, Comcast X1 DVR, Apple TV 3, Sony BDP-S5100, Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers (mains), Horizon (CC) and HTM-200's (Surr), Dual PSA XV15 Subwoofers!!
Gov is offline  
Old 03-17-2006, 09:39 PM
Senior Member
 
Amerikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Big Chimney/Crede area, Charleston, WV
Posts: 224
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by chasw98 View Post

My 170SE's will be getting here on Thursday to go with my 340SE's L/C/R. Now that upgradeitis is in full motion, is anybody doing 7.1 with 170's as the rears or 200's as the rears. Is it worth it? Thanks.

Chuck

What was your order date chasw98? Mine was January 27, and I was wondering when I might expect them.
Amerikes is offline  
Old 03-17-2006, 09:46 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
cschang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
Posts: 14,783
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Liked: 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amerikes View Post

What was your order date chasw98? Mine was January 27, and I was wondering when I might expect them.

Did you order 170SE's or 340SE's? I think the 340's are backordered, while the 170's are not....could be wrong though.

-curtis

Owner of Wave Crest Audio
Volunteer Mod at the Ascend Acoustics Forum
Like all things on the Internet, do your research, as forums have a good amount of misinformation.
Help beat breast cancer!

cschang is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 01:08 AM
Senior Member
 
Ready2Buy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 220
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gov View Post

Ascend recommends at least 3" if crossed at 80hz.

Thanks a bunch. SOrry to return to this silly question but what if you don't cross them at 80 Hz? What if you run them as LARGE? Do I need more than 3 inches of airspace between the 170SE and the wall?
Ready2Buy is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 05:17 AM
AVS Special Member
 
mboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Metro NY
Posts: 1,461
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Probably even more then 3".

BOYCOTT BEST BUY IN WEST PATERSON, NJ !!!!
mboy is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 11:46 AM
Senior Member
 
Ready2Buy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 220
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Hey folks,

For those of you that have 170SE's as surrounds, how have you mounted them? I bought Omnimount 20's (can hold up to 20 pounds) to get the 170SE side surrounds on my walls but rethinking this per comments above.

Thinking some more about this there are only few choices to mount these:

(1) On really tall stands
(2) On wall using mounts with long shafts
(3) On ceiling
(4) On table stands
(5) Other

Has anybody had to solve this one before? I can't imagine I am the first one. (BTW, I am running all speakers as LARGE if that matters.)
Ready2Buy is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 12:02 PM
AVS Special Member
 
chasw98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Margate, FL
Posts: 1,085
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amerikes View Post

What was your order date chasw98? Mine was January 27, and I was wondering when I might expect them.

I got mine on thurs March 16. I ordered on March 6.
chasw98 is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 12:06 PM
AVS Special Member
 
chasw98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Margate, FL
Posts: 1,085
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ready2Buy View Post

Hey folks,

For those of you that have 170SE's as surrounds, how have you mounted them? I bought Omnimount 20's (can hold up to 20 pounds) to get the 170SE side surrounds on my walls but rethinking this per comments above.

Thinking some more about this there are only few choices to mount these:

(1) On really tall stands
(2) On wall using mounts with long shafts
(3) On ceiling
(4) On table stands
(5) Other

Has anybody had to solve this one before? I can't imagine I am the first one. (BTW, I am running all speakers as LARGE if that matters.)

I have the OmniMount 20's also. I had an aluminum plate made that will adapt the Omnimount to the 170 so that I could use the threaded inserts on the rear. Worked very well.
chasw98 is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 05:54 PM
Senior Member
 
rizzxx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: virginia beach
Posts: 336
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by chasw98 View Post

I got mine on thurs March 16. I ordered on March 6.

damn you got yours in 10 days, I've ordered mine a month ago and still no speakers but I did get the 340 se's, I don't know which ones you got.
rizzxx7 is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 06:09 PM
AVS Special Member
 
chasw98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Margate, FL
Posts: 1,085
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by rizzxx7 View Post

damn you got yours in 10 days, I've ordered mine a month ago and still no speakers but I did get the 340 se's, I don't know which ones you got.

These were for my 170se's.
chasw98 is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 06:14 PM
ebr
AVS Special Member
 
ebr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Mooresville, NC
Posts: 3,358
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 20
rizz - AFAIK you are probably looking at another month of waiting on the 340SEs. Unless you ordered way ahead of me and yours are on the way. They told me that they were out of parts for the 340s and more won't be in their hands until mid-April...
ebr is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 06:26 PM
Senior Member
 
rizzxx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: virginia beach
Posts: 336
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebr View Post

rizz - AFAIK you are probably looking at another month of waiting on the 340SEs. Unless you ordered way ahead of me and yours are on the way. They told me that they were out of parts for the 340s and more won't be in their hands until mid-April...


when did you order yours?
rizzxx7 is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 08:54 PM
ebr
AVS Special Member
 
ebr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Mooresville, NC
Posts: 3,358
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 20
March 1st.

I don't actually need mine until May, but I heard about the backorder situation so I went ahead and got my order in.
ebr is offline  
Old 03-18-2006, 10:23 PM
Senior Member
 
Ready2Buy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 220
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by chasw98 View Post

I have the OmniMount 20's also. I had an aluminum plate made that will adapt the Omnimount to the 170 so that I could use the threaded inserts on the rear. Worked very well.

Aren't you bothered by the short space between the back of the speaker and the wall? Some here telling me that this is a no-no for the 170's cause they are rear ported. Is this BS?
Ready2Buy is offline  
Old 03-19-2006, 06:05 AM
AVS Special Member
 
jerrodshook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 1,251
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
After reading about all the delays, I'm glad I ordered my 7.1 SE setup back in January. I got mine in 10 days, and like someone said I spoke directly with Dave F when I placed the order. I am however waiting in line for my Hsu HO sub.... should be late April when I see that.

Right now, I only have the 340's across the front hooked up. The 4 - 170's I have are on the floor and haven't even been hooked up yet. My HT is still in progress, so I have no use for them yet.

I still love the sound these make and I am really surprised at the amount of low end the 340's put out. They aren't going to crack your ribs or anything, but they really do well.
jerrodshook is offline  
Old 03-19-2006, 06:18 AM
Member
 
Hyperlite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Brevard, North Carolina
Posts: 119
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I ordered a 170SE-340SE-170SE setup in late feb, Dave emailed me and said the 340SE wouldn't be availible until late march/early april, but he could ship the 170SE's out right away. I got those about two weeks ago, along with my HTM-200 surrounds. Amazing sound...

model numbers 92006577 and 92006578. Interesting that i got consecutive model numbers. i was really suprised at how much air the rear port pushed, i would give it no less than three inches behind...you can definantly still feel a good amount of air from 3 inches away.
Hyperlite is offline  
Old 03-19-2006, 06:39 AM
Senior Member
 
rizzxx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: virginia beach
Posts: 336
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I just can't wait for mine to come in, I already have my room set up and just waiting on this before I hang my new plasma.
rizzxx7 is offline  
Old 03-19-2006, 07:01 AM
Axl
Member
 
Axl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Webster, MA
Posts: 31
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Could someone please tell me if the HTM-200 come with everything needed to wall mount them out of the box, or is it necessary to purchase a bracket separately? I'd like to have them flush against the wall.

Thanks much
Axl is offline  
Old 03-19-2006, 07:19 AM
Member
 
Hyperlite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Brevard, North Carolina
Posts: 119
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
purchase the omnimount 20 brackets from ascend, they worked beautifully for me.
Hyperlite is offline  
Old 03-19-2006, 08:34 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
millerwill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 11,445
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Liked: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axl View Post

Could someone please tell me if the HTM-200 come with everything needed to wall mount them out of the box, or is it necessary to purchase a bracket separately? I'd like to have them flush against the wall.

Thanks much

After checking with Dave, I just screwed in a small hook on the back (drilled a ~ 0.5" deep hole the proper size beforehand) and hung them on a sturdy picture hook (that is securely in the wall). This is what makes the 200's so convenient as surrounds. And if you've read much on the Ascend threads, you will know that Dr. Hsu actually prefers the 200's for ALL of his speakers--left, center, right, surrrounds--to go with his subs. The 170's and 340's are certainly more speaker (and I'm glad I do have the 340's as L/C/R), but in the role of surrounds for HT the 200's are more than adequate (IMHO).
millerwill is online now  
Old 03-19-2006, 08:58 AM
AVS Special Member
 
gohd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,698
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axl View Post

Could someone please tell me if the HTM-200 come with everything needed to wall mount them out of the box, or is it necessary to purchase a bracket separately? I'd like to have them flush against the wall.

Thanks much

Does not come w/ bracket, but is pre-drilled to accomodate most mounts. The omnimount 20 does not allow flush mounting (closest is maybe 2-3" from wall). In the Ascend forum, some have used picture hangers (wires spanning the 2 mounting holes, hanging on a hook). Or this, I came across in the forum too:

http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product...ferings_id=344

Here's the thread I came across a while back about how to use it:

http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/sho...tm-200+bracket
gohd is offline  
Old 03-19-2006, 09:39 AM
Senior Member
 
jackie C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 290
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Check out a mount made by Vogel. Model # VLB 200
jackie C is offline  
Old 03-19-2006, 07:49 PM
Senior Member
 
Amerikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Big Chimney/Crede area, Charleston, WV
Posts: 224
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Hey........anyone! After ordering my speakers back in January, I just discovered that the package price for the same speakers that I ordered individually on Ascend's site appears to be substantially less expensive. Am I seeing that right??? It looks to be a difference of $200.00. Duh! Does that seem right?
I wouldn't think there would be any difference! If so, I need to talk to Ascend before they ship mine, and charge my credit card.........
Amerikes is offline  
Old 03-19-2006, 08:12 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
cschang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
Posts: 14,783
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Liked: 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amerikes View Post

Hey........anyone! After ordering my speakers back in January, I just discovered that the package price for the same speakers that I ordered individually on Ascend's site appears to be substantially less expensive. Am I seeing that right??? It looks to be a difference of $200.00. Duh! Does that seem right?
I wouldn't think there would be any difference! If so, I need to talk to Ascend before they ship mine, and charge my credit card.........

Give them a call...they will make it right. Someone else posted the same problem before and Ascend took care of it.

-curtis

Owner of Wave Crest Audio
Volunteer Mod at the Ascend Acoustics Forum
Like all things on the Internet, do your research, as forums have a good amount of misinformation.
Help beat breast cancer!

cschang is offline  
Old 03-19-2006, 08:23 PM
Senior Member
 
Amerikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Big Chimney/Crede area, Charleston, WV
Posts: 224
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by cschang View Post

Give them a call...they will make it right. Someone else posted the same problem before and Ascend took care of it.

Thanks cschang, I just emailed them, and will probably call tomorrow. I would never believe the difference would be as great as I calculated. If my figures were correct, the savings would be $196.00. That is very substantial.
Amerikes is offline  
Old 03-20-2006, 07:49 AM
Senior Member
 
Petrucci's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 260
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Any of you fellas using a different make for your surrounds with a full set of 340 fronts ?? In my hometheater room I am only able to flush mount my surrounds so that leaves the 340s and 170s out of the question. The 200s are sealed box and would do the trick but i'm not sure if they are up to the quality standards of the 170 or 340s. any feedback would be appreciated.
Petrucci is offline  
 

Tags
Ascend Acoustics , Pioneer Vsx 1014txk Thx Select Av Receiver , Receivers Amplifiers , Velodyne Impact 10 10 Subwoofer
Thread Tools


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off