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Okay, so I'm guessing they do sound heavy and full? I am coming from satellites that just don't have the weight or impact in the midrange.
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Can the CMT340SE withstand loud playback at reference level (13feet distance to listening position)? How's the dynamic? Will it be suitable as HT speakers?

Anyone play it at reference level? Clean or distort?

Has anyone compare it against the Klipsch RB61 or RC62 or any of the Klipsch Synergy budget series?

@Skylinestar, you and others might find this post interesting. Theoretical power requirements were worked out for the 340's and a couple of other speakers at a 10ft listening distance. Your 13ft listening distance would likely require 1dB to 2dB more gain from the amps than the figures shown.
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That was an interesting post, very helpful. I would still like to know if these 340 se's have an impactful and heavy presence to them (do they sound larger than they are?). Lastly, is anyone using them with a pioneer amp? From what I have read, they are not overly bright speakers (like my B & W m1s), so that might be advantageous for me to pair them with a pioneer amp because they will not be harsh. The guys in the B & W forum were yelling at me for considering the B & W 600 bookshelves with a pioneer amp because of the brightness factor.
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Okay, so I'm guessing they do sound heavy and full? I am coming from satellites that just don't have the weight or impact in the midrange.
That is tough to qualify because they do not over emphasize any part of the FR.

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That was an interesting post, very helpful. I would still like to know if these 340 se's have an impactful and heavy presence to them (do they sound larger than they are?). Lastly, is anyone using them with a pioneer amp? From what I have read, they are not overly bright speakers (like my B & W m1s), so that might be advantageous for me to pair them with a pioneer amp because they will not be harsh. The guys in the B & W forum were yelling at me for considering the B & W 600 bookshelves with a pioneer amp because of the brightness factor.

I can tell you that the 340's are great set of speakers for the cost you pay for them. For HT listening, watching they will give you a full experience along with your sub. They will not pound your chest as hard as the next level speakers will, but are still a very enjoyable to listen to in the HT area for long periods of time. I have no complaints with any of mine. Also friends love to come over to watch movies because they say it is whole new experience watching and feeling with my speakers along with the subs.
For music listening, they will beg you to turn the volume up louder and louder without any fatigue to your ears.

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Okay, so I'm guessing they do sound heavy and full? I am coming from satellites that just don't have the weight or impact in the midrange.

If you are used to small satellite speakers with tiny drivers, almost any speaker in this price range with a larger driver should probably be an improvement in that regard.

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That was an interesting post, very helpful. I would still like to know if these 340 se's have an impactful and heavy presence to them (do they sound larger than they are?). Lastly, is anyone using them with a pioneer amp? From what I have read, they are not overly bright speakers (like my B & W m1s), so that might be advantageous for me to pair them with a pioneer amp because they will not be harsh. The guys in the B & W forum were yelling at me for considering the B & W 600 bookshelves with a pioneer amp because of the brightness factor.

Sounds like the "guys in the B&W forum" wouldn't know sh!t from clay! tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

Forget "pairing" of this amp or that amp with different speakers. It's just rubbish and will drive you 'round the bend eventually. The effects of the characteristics of your room and the placement of the speakers in it will totally swamp microscopic differences (if any) between solid state amps. If your(?) Pioneer has enough power to comfortably drive the Ascends (or whichever speaker you choose) to your preferred maximum volume levels, it will be perfectly fine.

[Apologies for the interjection fellas - I'm not an Ascend owner.]
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My pioneer is a 1222k 120wpc class D amp. It seems that the ascends have a high sensitivity rating, so I am assuming my amp will be plenty.
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My pioneer is a 1222k 120wpc class D amp. It seems that the ascends have a high sensitivity rating, so I am assuming my amp will be plenty.
You assume correctly.

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Sounds like the "guys in the B&W forum" wouldn't know sh!t from clay! tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

Forget "pairing" of this amp or that amp with different speakers. It's just rubbish and will drive you 'round the bend eventually. The effects of the characteristics of your room and the placement of the speakers in it will totally swamp microscopic differences (if any) between solid state amps. If your(?) Pioneer has enough power to comfortably drive the Ascends (or whichever speaker you choose) to your preferred maximum volume levels, it will be perfectly fine.

[Apologies for the interjection fellas - I'm not an Ascend owner.]
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That was an interesting post, very helpful. I would still like to know if these 340 se's have an impactful and heavy presence to them (do they sound larger than they are?). Lastly, is anyone using them with a pioneer amp? From what I have read, they are not overly bright speakers (like my B & W m1s), so that might be advantageous for me to pair them with a pioneer amp because they will not be harsh.

I'm a audio dummy, so I can't really say whether my 340's sound "heavy" or "larger than they are". I can say that I drive my Ascends with a Pioneer Elite VSX-01 AVR. I have 340SE's for L/C/R and use 200's to round out my 7.1 system. I also use a Hsu sub and cross over at 80hz. I use my system for 99% HT use. In the 5 years or so that I've had my HT running, I've never once thought "I wonder if new speakers would sound better". And I've updated almost every other component in my rack.

I just watched Ender's Game Sunday night and that BR put my system through it's paces. Sounded awesome.

I love my Ascends.
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I bought a pair of 340's last summer to test out the Ascend product and for the money I can not imagine buying a better speaker. The imaging is surprising and the detail is clear and crisp. Vocals are real and if you listen to any acoustical guitar, it's as though the person is playing in front of you...quite real.

 

The downside..low end. A subwoofer is needed. But that is not a reason not to buy this speaker. Keep in mind what the cost is and what you are getting and for the money I think you would be hard press to find a better speaker for HT or music.

 

I am using mine at the cottage and the room  size is 25x25x8 and they will fill the room with music and sound with a mid grade AV Sony receiver that delivers 70watts per channel. At times you can feel the sound in your chest. My listening is mainly music with some HT. I don't think you will regret buying these speakers...add a good subwoofer or two and you may be in for a pleasant surprise.

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I'm considering Ascends for my first 7.x system. I have a 10'x20' room that is open on one side to another room, except for a column the side surrounds will be mounted on. The sysytem will be all for movies/TV. My goal for all the speakers is to be under $2500.

I the rear speakers will be far (~10') behind the seats. I have some JBL north ridge N26 bookshelf speakers that I could use.

The side surround speakers will be a foot or so from the seats so I'm not sure HTM-200's mounted on the wall (the farthest distance possible away and really the only location) is a good idea.

Subwoofer. I have a velodyne ct-100 but on your guidance maybe I need something(s) else.

What do you advise?
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You could mount the HTM200s up near the ceilings to help out further perhaps but not worrying about a port gives you a little more "width" to use. I use 170SEs as surrounds, and while not as close to the seats as yours, its still close as I also have a long room (33 x 15), been thinking of switching them around with the 200SEs I use for rear surrounds. What are you thinking of running for LCR?
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What are you thinking of running for LCR?

CMT 340's are what I was thinking.
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What are you thinking of running for LCR?

CMT 340's are what I was thinking.

You're definitely on the right track!

With shipping, this high performance 7.2 system will come in just under your $2500 target:

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I don't think you can go wrong with the Ascend 340's and the 200's or 170's. Solid system which I love at the price point that you can buy them at. They are surprisingly musical and also play great for the HT and are easy to run with an AVR.

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You're definitely on the right track!

With shipping, this high performance 7.2 system will come in just under your $2500 target:


That does budget nicely and will sound awesome!

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You're definitely on the right track!

With shipping, this high performance 7.2 system will come in just under your $2500 target:


For the sub, I would recommend spending getting a Rythmik FV15HP instead of 2 of the entry level LV12R's, that way if you want two in the future you can just buy another FV15HP if you felt it was necessary and not have to sell both existing subs. FV15HP's are the top of the line and come in just under your $2500 budget for the package.

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV15HP.html
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Ascend is running their Memorial Day & Summer sale, so the HTM-200 SE is $268.00/pair and the LV12R is $569.00/ea. (before package discounts), bringing the above package down to $2,232.20.  I don't see anything stating how long the sales will be going.

 

The CBM-170 SE is also on sale for $298.00/pair (the same as the standard price on the 200's), but they are rear ported, so the 200's are probably a better choice for mounting to walls.

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Looking to upgrade my 10 year old Klipsch KSB 1.1s. I'm pretty happy with the sound, but wanted confirmation that going with L, C, R with Ascend CMT-340 and RL and RR with Ascend CBM-170 will be a substantial improvement to sound quality.

All for movies, room is 14' wide, ~25' long (opens to the right in an L shaped basement of 1000 sq ft). Using Yamaha RX-673.

Thanks for any opinions.
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Looking to upgrade my 10 year old Klipsch KSB 1.1s. I'm pretty happy with the sound, but wanted confirmation that going with L, C, R with Ascend CMT-340 and RL and RR with Ascend CBM-170 will be a substantial improvement to sound quality.

All for movies, room is 14' wide, ~25' long (opens to the right in an L shaped basement of 1000 sq ft). Using Yamaha RX-673.

Thanks for any opinions.
It will definitely be a substantial improvement.
I did something similar to what you are doing except my speakers were better than yours and am very happy. I went from Klipsch Synergy F20 mains, Klipsch Icon Vf36 surrounds and Klipsch Synergy C20 center to 340 LCR and 170 surrounds. Yamaha 675 receiver.
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Thanks. Seems like you were upgrading something similar to mine (and have a similar AVR), any others you considered? These seem like the best option. Would feel better if there were more professional reviews of this speaker...
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Thanks. Seems like you were upgrading something similar to mine (and have a similar AVR), any others you considered? These seem like the best option. Would feel better if there were more professional reviews of this speaker...
What, all the satisfied customers here at AVS forums and elsewhere aren't as good as a "professional" reviewer's opinion?

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What, all the satisfied customers here at AVS forums and elsewhere aren't as good as a "professional" reviewer's opinion?
That's why I asked here!
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Any thoughts on how Ascend compares to Axiom? CMT-340 vs. M22; CBM-170 vs M3? (100% HT.)
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Any thoughts on how Ascend compares to Axiom? CMT-340 vs. M22; CBM-170 vs M3? (100% HT.)
Theyre often compared and both good speakers. Be best if you could listen to them both.
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Any thoughts on how Ascend compares to Axiom? CMT-340 vs. M22; CBM-170 vs M3? (100% HT.)
FWIW
years ago I had Axiom M60s delivered. It didn't take a week before I sent them back. The metal tweeters were a bit, quite a bit, too harsh for me having come from cloth/silk domes on my old Design Acoustics speakers.
My next audition was the Ascend 340s and it took no time to realize they were keepers.
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years ago I had Axiom M60s delivered. It didn't take a week before I sent them back. The metal tweeters were a bit, quite a bit, too harsh for me having come from cloth/silk domes on my old Design Acoustics speakers.
My next audition was the Ascend 340s and it took no time to realize they were keepers.
Helpful thanks. Pretty much set on the speaker decision. Now need to decide on the sub..
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