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Old 02-04-2016, 03:53 AM
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New Boston User VR-35 VR-14 VR-2000 VRS-Pro

Morning folks! First time poster here, thought this would be the best place to get some info on a set of BA's I just got from a friend.
I used to be quite tech savvy with all this around 10 years ago but for the life of me I cannot remember a thing about setting these things up correctly so I'm very much a rookie again

The Speakers are:

2 x VR-35
1 x VR-14
2 x VRS-Pro's
1 x VR-2000 Sub

The original manuals are long lost unfortunately and I've searched high and low on the internet for them with no luck.
Can anyone tell me what the frequency range of these speakers are and what on earth I should be doing as far as crossover points for them go?

If it helps the Amp I'm using is a Denon AVR-2807 (old I know but it all sounds great to me!)

Any advice would be very much appreciated, feeling very much like a fish out of water and don't want to do them an injustice! Many thanks, Tom.
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Morning folks! First time poster here, thought this would be the best place to get some info on a set of BA's I just got from a friend.
I used to be quite tech savvy with all this around 10 years ago but for the life of me I cannot remember a thing about setting these things up correctly so I'm very much a rookie again

The Speakers are:

2 x VR-35
1 x VR-14
2 x VRS-Pro's
1 x VR-2000 Sub

The original manuals are long lost unfortunately and I've searched high and low on the internet for them with no luck.
Can anyone tell me what the frequency range of these speakers are and what on earth I should be doing as far as crossover points for them go?

If it helps the Amp I'm using is a Denon AVR-2807 (old I know but it all sounds great to me!)

Any advice would be very much appreciated, feeling very much like a fish out of water and don't want to do them an injustice! Many thanks, Tom.
I seem to have become the resident Boston Acoustics specialist of this forum but that's okay with me. I'm probably the only active member that's read the majority of this thread and has a full Boston system and cares to respond. I know what I'm talking about at least.

Anyways, that's a nice set of speakers! The only thing that might leave a little to be desired is the subwoofer, but it is still a nice unit.

Okay, so I don't know the full specs on the speakers but I know approximately what their frequency responses would be based on the ones I know for sure.
VR-35s: ~45 Hz (maybe a tad lower) - 20 kHz
VR-14: ~65 Hz - 20 kHz
VRS-Pro: 80 Hz - 20 kHz
VR2000: ~30-120 Hz (I think but I haven't done enough research on the sub to know for sure)

For a crossover, you should be looking at somewhere around 80 Hz for the set, which is the standard THX-recommended crossover for the majority of speakers. You could go up to 100 Hz if you wanted, but no higher than that would be necessary. Lower than 80 Hz would be fine for stereo on the VR-35s but not for surround.

So, in short, crossover should be between 80 and 100 Hz, depending on your preference.

I recommend running the auto-setup (Audyssey) on your receiver. It should set your crossovers for you, however if it sets them to anything other than 80-100 Hz, you should change them (Audyssey does some funky things sometimes as all auto calibration systems do). Even if it messes up the crossovers a little, it's worth it to get the room correction (EQ and distances) set.

I don't know how well you remember what goes where, so I can make some suggestions for placement/use if you require it. The VRS-Pros in particular have very specific placement requirements.

I hope that all makes sense. If you need me to clarify something, just reply to the post and I'll do my best. You're certainly lucky getting that set!

7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V671, Boston Acoustics VR40 (Mains), VR12 (Center), CR8 (Surrounds), CR8 (Rear Surrounds), Mirage Omni S10
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Thanks so much for your response! So just to clarify, when I run the Audyssey it sets my fronts all to "Large" and my rears to small with a Crossover of 120hz for the rears.

Once audyssey is finished should I then go into the speaker settings and set them manually to "small" (this turns the Audyssey LED to RED rather than GREEN - I'm assuming this is because I still have the Audyssey EQ on but not EXACTLY as the Auto-setup Calibrated things?) and then set each speaker to an 80hz-100hz crossover and the Sub to a 80hz aswell?

If this is correct (im very new to all this) am I right in assuming that if I increase the fronts to 100hz they will handle LESS bass than if they were set to 80hz (sending more to the sub) perhaps giving them more clarity in the job they've been given to do by the soundtrack - BUT if they are at 100hz and the sub is only playing frequencies at 80hz or below am I simply loosing the 81-99Hz range? should I then increase the Sub to 100hz too or will that mean it playing to large a range and start to lack definition aswell?

I appreciate the assistance!
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Thanks so much for your response! So just to clarify, when I run the Audyssey it sets my fronts all to "Large" and my rears to small with a Crossover of 120hz for the rears.

Once audyssey is finished should I then go into the speaker settings and set them manually to "small" (this turns the Audyssey LED to RED rather than GREEN - I'm assuming this is because I still have the Audyssey EQ on but not EXACTLY as the Auto-setup Calibrated things?) and then set each speaker to an 80hz-100hz crossover and the Sub to a 80hz aswell?

If this is correct (im very new to all this) am I right in assuming that if I increase the fronts to 100hz they will handle LESS bass than if they were set to 80hz (sending more to the sub) perhaps giving them more clarity in the job they've been given to do by the soundtrack - BUT if they are at 100hz and the sub is only playing frequencies at 80hz or below am I simply loosing the 81-99Hz range? should I then increase the Sub to 100hz too or will that mean it playing to large a range and start to lack definition aswell?

I appreciate the assistance!
You're welcome.

You would want to set all your speakers to small. If your fronts are set to large, you may get more bass but you'll lose clarity. You may also lose bass depending on the phases of the bass waves as they reach your ears.

Then set each speaker's crossover to 80-100 Hz. I would probably do 80 Hz for the fronts and 100 Hz for the center and rears to start with and then experiment from there.

The LED being red means you have done manual setup instead of 100% automatic I believe. That's nothing to worry about.

If you set your fronts to 100 Hz crossover then they will handle less bass (higher crossover = more bass on the subwoofer = less bass on the speakers). This can clean things up. Generally, most subs will handle up to 100 Hz well. Once you go over 100 Hz a lot of them starting having issues, mainly because frequencies over 100 Hz are more directional (i.e. you can tell exactly where the subwoofer is on those tones) and as that is approaching their upper frequency range. Going below 100 Hz will increase clarity a bit, but it comes at the cost of sending more bass to your speakers, especially your rears (which can't handle those tones too well). It's somewhat of a catch-22, however there's really nothing to be done about that with speakers that need a higher crossover. Personally, I find 80 Hz to be the best crossover in my system (so does THX), but my speakers have a slightly lower range than yours. I recommend experimenting by playing something you are familiar with and seeing what setting works best for you.

I'm not 100% familiar with Audyssey so I'll need some clarification on the subwoofer crossover question. Are you talking about setting the crossover on the sub itself or on Audyssey? On the sub itself, the crossover should be turned all the way up because the receiver is bypassing it. If you turn it down lower, especially lower than 100 Hz, the crossovers will not match up. In Audyssey, I think it should be set to whatever your highest crossover is. If your crossovers don't match each other, then yes you will be losing bass from certain channels in the range that is not accounted for.

I hope that helps answer your questions.

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2.1 Setup: Nakamichi RE-2, Boston Acoustics VR40 and Mirage Omni S10 (shared with 7.1), Emotiva XDA-1, and Pioneer, Kenwood, DBX and JVC vintage equipment

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Boston acoustics in wall speakers

Folks,
I have several of the Boston acoustics VSI 5835 speakers to install. They came with a beveled plastic ring that looks like it's used angle the woofer. There are no instructions in the box. Boston acoustics has not been helpful so far. Has anybody get any idea what these are thanks so much
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Folks,
I have several of the Boston acoustics VSI 5835 speakers to install. They came with a beveled plastic ring that looks like it's used angle the woofer. There are no instructions in the box. Boston acoustics has not been helpful so far. Has anybody get any idea what these are thanks so much
Mark Franke
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I don't know the answer to that one. So I'll bump it.

7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V671, Boston Acoustics VR40 (Mains), VR12 (Center), CR8 (Surrounds), CR8 (Rear Surrounds), Mirage Omni S10
Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
2.1 Setup: Nakamichi RE-2, Boston Acoustics VR40 and Mirage Omni S10 (shared with 7.1), Emotiva XDA-1, and Pioneer, Kenwood, DBX and JVC vintage equipment
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