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It means they are NOT Energy speakers. So don't expect the traditional Energy sound. They are entry level Jamo speakers. In fact while Newegg has a sale on these for $150/pr, Fry's has them for $99/pr as Jamo s426 speakers and $150 for a 5.0 set.

They're better than HTIB speakers or the Onkyo packaged speaker systems but nowhere near as good as the Jamo s606 package.

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Would the RC -LCR sound okay paired with the 5.1s since they are from different lines?

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no, it will sound terrible, that's why he suggested it as the 2nd best option.

I have my RC-LCR currently running with my 5.1's. I'll agree that if you want the best fit you should get the 5.2c That said i don't think the LCR sounds terrible with the 5.1's at all. Actually i quite like the front soundstage. I am using my 6.3's now with the LCR and it still sounds very good.

I also have the 5.2c but need help getting the LCR out of my stand. I need to take the tv and top glass shelf off to get it out.

I'm assuming because you have asked if they would work with the LCR that you have one and are looking for good mains to go with it. If you have the LCR there is no reason why you shouldn't get the RC-10's or any of the RC towers. If you already have the 5.1's then there's no reason to get the RC-LCR.

If you're deciding between the RC or Veritas it basically comes down to two things. (in my opinion)

Price and Aesthetics.

If you're more price sensitive go for the RC series.

If you want the "nicer" looking speakers then get the Veritas (preferably in Rosenut)

The difference between my RC10, RCLCR vs V5.1, V5.2C is not a night and day difference. I love both arrangements but to me the difference was as described above.

This is just my opinion on the products i actually have. You can't go wrong with either.
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It means they are NOT Energy speakers. So don't expect the traditional Energy sound. They are entry level Jamo speakers. In fact while Newegg has a sale on these for $150/pr, Fry's has them for $99/pr as Jamo s426 speakers and $150 for a 5.0 set.

They're better than HTIB speakers or the Onkyo packaged speaker systems but nowhere near as good as the Jamo s606 package.

Ouch. This is a sign that the Audiovox buyout of Energy is going to slowly erode the Energy quality we all know and love. Brace yourselves.
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Yeah, I politely told him there's no way he'll get $1k (yes, he wanted that just for the bookshelfs).

$1k is approaching 2.4i territory (the biggest towers).

A pair of mint 2.3i towers sold for $700 here two years ago.
A pair of mint 2.3i towers sold on Audiogon earlier this year for $700 as well.
A pair of mint 2.3i towers is listed in LA for $750 and has been listed for several weeks with no buyers.

So how would the 2.2i's, without stands, sell for $1k??!!

Nice, maybe the thought was that if Audiovox/Klipsch can capitalize on the name, than why can't he. There is a guy wanting $2800 or $2400 for 2.4's around here, but I also expressed to everyone that he was out to lunch with a glass pipe months ago. These guys have high hopes.

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Ouch. This is a sign that the Audiovox buyout of Energy is going to slowly erode the Energy quality we all know and love. Brace yourselves.

Buy the RC's and older models while you still can. I have been doing that for a few years now. I don't think I will ever need to buy a new speaker again, and I don't think there will be a better reasonably priced new speaker from any company that will ever tempt me. Energy was that good.

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That said i don't think the LCR sounds terrible with the 5.1's at all.

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wow really??!? are you sure about that? That would be a break from the way Audyssey has worked on pretty much every receiver ever...

Yeah, but by all means try it the way the manual and Audyssey says. When I got mine months and months ago I was getting weird readings from Auddysey and found the official tx-nr609 thread here on AVS and quite a few people tried the 123 instead of the 213 position with better results. I havent messed with it in awhile since I have everything the way I like it now, but if I move anything in the future I will check the results again.

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Thanks Afrogt. I've picked up that poster. Maybe i'll alter it by putting an energy logo on the back wall.

Anything is possible if you want to put some effort in. This is what I did from a tiny picture that I liked.

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your sarcasm meter may be broken

Wasn't being sarcastic...just saying i don't think they sound horrible. I'm curious why you would say it's a terrible combination. Have you tried the 5.1's with a RC-LCR? There isn't a huge difference between the RC's and the new V's as we all know.
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Wasn't being sarcastic...just saying i don't think they sound horrible. I'm curious why you would say it's a terrible combination. Have you tried the 5.1's with a RC-LCR? There isn't a huge difference between the RC's and the new V's as we all know.

Seems your sarcasm meter isn't the only thing broken!

Batpig was the one being sarcastic, when he said they sound horrible!

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Seems your sarcasm meter isn't the only thing broken!

Batpig was the one being sarcastic, when he said they sound horrible!

My bad. At least put a wink in there so those of us who pay attention to every little thing said on these threads can follow along.

I took it as he was being serious with the comment so i wanted to know more about why he felt that way. Since he's one who helps a lot of people out i thought maybe he knew something i didn't.
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I was just being a dick because sometimes I get snippy when people ask repetitive questions

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I was just being a dick because sometimes I get snippy when people ask repetitive questions

Haha yeah i noticed that. I thought maybe you had some insight i wasn't aware of. I should have caught that. For that mistake i made I'll send you one Energy EF-500. I'll keep the other but will tie a string between them as Hank said that is the best utilization of them. In fact i'll send one to him as well. Then we can all have a 3 way conversation about energy products.
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Newegg now has the S10.3 for $200. How low has the price been on this sub in the past?
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Newegg now has the S10.3 for $200. How low has the price been on this sub in the past?

If you need a great sub for a great price, get it now. This is a great value.

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$199 is the cheapest newegg has ever had it, so if you want one buy it now!

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Buy the RC's and older models while you still can. I have been doing that for a few years now. I don't think I will ever need to buy a new speaker again, and I don't think there will be a better reasonably priced new speaker from any company that will ever tempt me. Energy was that good.

Hank, does this mean you think the newly available RC's (the RC-70's specifically) at Vann's are the equivalent to the RC's available a year or two ago? Or are you recommending used RC's?

If you ever get the opportunity to compare the 6.3's to the RC-70's, I'd like to hear your opinion. I will likely get one or the other -- just having a difficult time deciding between the two. I like my RC-50's a lot (i.e., the warm/neutral sound), so I know I would like the RC-70's. But after reading Calgary's comparison, the soundstage or the 6.3's seems impressive.
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Hank, does this mean you think the newly available RC's (the RC-70's specifically) at Vann's are the equivalent to the RC's available a year or two ago? Or are you recommending used RC's?

If you ever get the opportunity to compare the 6.3's to the RC-70's, I'd like to hear your opinion. I will likely get one or the other -- just having a difficult time deciding between the two. I like my RC-50's a lot (i.e., the warm/neutral sound), so I know I would like the RC-70's. But after reading Calgary's comparison, the soundstage or the 6.3's sounds impressive.

I have previously noticed that the newer RC-70's weighed in less than other RC-70's, but that doesn't mean that there is reason for people to hesitate. In seperate rooms, I don't notice anything different except for the weight and the grilles fit differently.
I will compare the 6.3's to the 1.8's and RC-70's, it just may take some time, it will happen though.

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I haven't posted here in awhile but I'm back with Energy! I couldn't resist the Vann's sale right now. I sold my old speakers today and purchased a pair of RC-10's and an RC-LCR (I run a 3.1 setup). So I will have the energy speakers up front with a yamaha 667 and an Emotiva Ultra Sub 12 (I love this sub!). I can't wait until they arrive!
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I haven't posted here in awhile but I'm back with Energy! I couldn't resist the Vann's sale right now. I sold my old speakers today and purchased a pair of RC-10's and an RC-LCR (I run a 3.1 setup). So I will have the energy speakers up front with a yamaha 667 and an Emotiva Ultra Sub 12 (I love this sub!). I can't wait until they arrive!

Welcome back! There are some great prices out there right now on Energy speakers. What speakers did you get rid of to move to those RCs? Since you are "back", what Energy speakers did you previously own?
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Welcome back! There are some great prices out there right now on Energy speakers. What speakers did you get rid of to move to those RCs? Since you are "back", what Energy speakers did you previously own?

I had some PSB Alpha B1's and a C1 for the center. I had a pair of RC-30's and an RC-LCR about a year go. The RC-30's were not a good idea with little children running around (6 year old and 4 year old) so I ended up selling them. I also realized I just preferred a bookshelf speaker more. I should have just jumped on a pair of RC-10's at the time but I started thinking about the money factor and what I had already spent so far (plus having to sell the RC-30's at a loss).

So I decided to downgrade but regretted it shortly after. I love PSB and honestly the Alpha's are great speakers (second set I had bought in recent years). The RC's are on another level though in my opinion. Plus I am not out that much after selling the PSB's and I knew Vann's wouldn't have the RC's much longer for that price.

Everything is ready to go and I am watching tv on a single old mono speaker right now waiting for the RC's to arrive .
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I haven't posted here in awhile but I'm back with Energy! I couldn't resist the Vann's sale right now. I sold my old speakers today and purchased a pair of RC-10's and an RC-LCR (I run a 3.1 setup). So I will have the energy speakers up front with a yamaha 667 and an Emotiva Ultra Sub 12 (I love this sub!). I can't wait until they arrive!

I have my 2nd set of RC-10's running on a Yamaha 667 full range on a 2.0 setup. They sound great for what i'm using them for. You'll be very happy i'm sure.
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wow really??!? are you sure about that? That would be a break from the way Audyssey has worked on pretty much every receiver ever...

When it say place at ear level, would that be sitting down or standing up?
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I have my 2nd set of RC-10's running on a Yamaha 667 full range on a 2.0 setup. They sound great for what i'm using them for. You'll be very happy i'm sure.

Good to know. I had the 667 running with the PSB speakers and it sounded great so I was hoping the RC-10's would sound even better.
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When it say place at ear level, would that be sitting down or standing up?

would be at whatever ear level when you're watching movies. I'd say ear level when your sitting down. Hold the mic where your ears would be.
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Currently calibrating my system with audyssey and with my S10.3, the knobs on the back "crossover" and "phase" and the switches "auto" and "crossover mode", "a" or "b"....how should I set this stuff, or should I just leave it on auto?!?
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Currently calibrating my system with audyssey and with my S10.3, the knobs on the back "crossover" and "phase" and the switches "auto" and "crossover mode", "a" or "b"....how should I set this stuff, or should I just leave it on auto?!?

leave the crossover on the highest setting...you'll crossover your speakers through your receiver. As for Phase i think you can leave that at 0. The auto switch is for your sub to wake up when it detects a signal. I have no clue what the crossover mode a or b means. Lookup that in the manual or wait for someone else to chime in.
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leave the crossover on the highest setting...you'll crossover your speakers through your receiver. As for Phase i think you can leave that at 0. The auto switch is for your sub to wake up when it detects a signal. I have no clue what the crossover mode a or b means. Lookup that in the manual or wait for someone else to chime in.

Well it says on there "a - crossover activated" "b - crossover bypassed"
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You want to bypass the crossover. This should all have been covered in the link I gave you.

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