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He's full of crap that the avr is the issue.

Before you determine that the tweeter is blown remember that the RC-10 has dual biwire binding posts. So make sure it's not something as simple as the shorting straps being loose. Try disconnecting the shorting straps and just connect the avr output to the top (tweeter) binding posts and see if it makes noise.
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Hey guys and gals,

I would like some help regarding my (Left/Right) RC-70, (Center) RC-LCR, (surround) RC-10 setup that I purchased late April of this year.

Over the weekend I purchased a boom mic and decided to redo my odyssey setup to get a better calibration for my room. As I was running the 1 first position and it tested my surround right RC-10, I noticed that it sounded flat with and did not have that high pitched "chirp" that my other speakers had during the calibration. I ran it again and had the same result with that specific speaker. So I swapped the SR and SL wires in my AVR to see if it was channel dependent or speaker dependent. Turns out that specific speaker lacked the highs regardless of what channel I set it to in the AVR. I'm guessing the tweeter is shot on that RC-10.

So today I called energy and spoke with a gentlemen in the product support department and informed him of my issue. First he was highly surprised I bought an RC-10 setup as recent as April and he didn't know they were still being sold at Frys. Second he asked what AVR I was using and I told him I am using a Denon AVR-X4000 to power my 5.1 RC setup. He told that the RC-10 need 175 watts and that my AVR is most likely the issue, but wasn't able to explain why only one speaker was having an issue and not the others, especially the RC-70s. Instructed me to email them a receipt, description of the problem, and AVR that I am using.

His comments caught me off guard because everything I've read says these are highly efficient speakers and doesn't require a ton of power.

Can anyone shed some light on this? I suspect he might have been mistaken, but I'm in the wrong, I'd like to know so I can get external amps if need be to prevent damage to the other speakers.
He is indeed mistaken/misinformed. A denon x4000 is more than adequate for the entire rc series. Plenty of power unless your sitting far away and trying to play at reference level. Audyssey doesn't play test tones at reference so the damage must have occurred sometime before that.
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Agreed with the other guys. You should call him back and tell him its a shame Audiovox has people like him taking technical calls. Thats just plain awful.
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It probably is rooted in the old adage that it's easier to destroy a tweeter by UNDERpowering it (clipped signal) than overpowering it. Yes, if you tried to push the X4000 so loud that its amps went into clipping, you could destroy a tweeter.

But making any sort of gross connection between the 175W max RMS rating of the RC-10 and the 125W/ch rating of the X4000 is asinine. That's like saying it's your fault you blew your tire because it's V-rated (149mph) and your car can't go faster than 115mph.
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Hey guys and gals,

I would like some help regarding my (Left/Right) RC-70, (Center) RC-LCR, (surround) RC-10 setup that I purchased late April of this year.

Over the weekend I purchased a boom mic and decided to redo my odyssey setup to get a better calibration for my room. As I was running the 1 first position and it tested my surround right RC-10, I noticed that it sounded flat with and did not have that high pitched "chirp" that my other speakers had during the calibration. I ran it again and had the same result with that specific speaker. So I swapped the SR and SL wires in my AVR to see if it was channel dependent or speaker dependent. Turns out that specific speaker lacked the highs regardless of what channel I set it to in the AVR. I'm guessing the tweeter is shot on that RC-10.
This same thing recently happened to me with one of my Energy V-S's. I switched the tweeter from the other VS and the problem remained, so I figured the crossover was broken. I contacted Energy and they said it was unlikely, but that it did happen sometimes. They sent me a new crossover free. It completely fixed the problem.

That being said, the VS doesn't have dual binding posts, so first I would check on the RC10 is what bitpig mentioned about making sure the screws on the dual binding posts are tight and firmly holding the metal straps in place.

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I think you are turned around. The RCs came in black, cherry and rosenut. The V's are only offered in two finishes, gloss black and gloss rosewood.
I was , effectively. Didn't look at the energy site, I was so convinced it was the case.. My bad and thanks for correcting it!

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I think you should be able to get $750 rather than just ask for $750, however you may have to sell the v5.2c separately since it isn't a match in colour or series. .

And most importantly of all, what will you be replacing them with???
Well, I hear you! But since I want it to move fast, I won't be as finicky and hard negotiating as usual... But I do want at least 750.

Almost two months ago I've bought reaction audio dual subs... They've impressed me so much I'm willing to go full-on with a reaction audio cx-10 LCR... Always loved Tannoy's dual concentric speaker concept. Some people say to me I should wait until the company gets bigger, but no. The company's owner is really communicative, upfront, and honest. He is passionate about what he's doing. ! And I'm excited as much as him as being part of that new project!

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Last thing I really need right now is more speakers as I have enough collecting dust, but there is a semi-local pair of 22 RC speakers in black for $700. Never heard them before other than their reputation. Are they worth looking into without having an immediate use for them? Price seems a bit steep given their vintage, but I'm wondering how they would compare to my v2.3s...
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