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Got a pair of Energy RC-10s in perfect condition along with a pair of Energy V-Surrounds. PM me if you're interested. I have the boxes and everything.
Black ash, or otherwise?
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Black ash, or otherwise?
Black Ash RC-10s. Black Energy V-Surrounds.
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I'm running CF-30s fronts, CC-5 center, and CB-5s surrounds with an S10 sub, powered by a Denon 1911 receiver in my small den, and am pleased with the performance.
Nice, I looked at those as well for a smaller application but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Good to hear.

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I don't see many people with the C-10 or C-50's? Anyone else have these? I enjoy them quite a bit, they are running from my SC71. The only thing they really lack is bass, but that is to be expected.
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I'm running CF-30s fronts, CC-5 center, and CB-5s surrounds with an S10 sub, powered by a Denon 1911 receiver in my small den, and am pleased with the performance.
I once ran a setup consisting of 2 x CB-20s, 1 x CC-5 and 2 x CB-5s. I quickly upgraded the center to a CC-10 afterwards which was much better. The whole series is rather bright so maybe that's why you find them lacking in bass. The CB-20s were alright bass-wise although I always used a sub to complement the setup (first an Energy ESW-C8 which is not worth the cost, and afterwards an SVS SB12-NSD). At the time I had a Pioneer 1020 running it.

I since sold the whole setup to a friend, and it's still running fine. The only caveat being finish: it seems that in a varying humidity environment, the finish has a tendency to peel away and fade a bit. They're not as pretty as they once were.

Nonetheless, I'm now in the process of building a secondary setup for a kid's playroom / parent's training room. The setup is all-new, with 4 x CB-10 and a CC-10. A PSA XS15se subwoofer will add the needed oomph. An Onkyo 818 will provide the wattage to the speakers and the signal to the sub. I've yet to test the setup though, but in Canada, owing to deep discounts found at FutureShop, it's pretty hard to find a better deal than Energy's C-series.

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Kind of curious if Energy will get into making Dolby Atmos type speakers. I like Pioneer's design with the top mounted driver aimed at the ceiling, and the idea of running speaker wire to an existing location instead of figuring out ceiling options.

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I've posted in here before about selling my speakers, but have kept them because I've enjoyed them. However, I could now use the money. Are cherry Rc-10 and RC-LCR still in demand at all? Searching on craigslist, I didn't see any other cherry so wasn't sure if I'd be wasting my time.

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I don't know how much demand there is but I think they look better than black ash. I have RC-70's, RC-10s and RC LCR in black and then in another setup I have RC-10s, RC Mini C, RC Mini's all in cherry.

The Cherry finish definitely looks better in my opinion.

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Kind of curious if Energy will get into making Dolby Atmos type speakers. I like Pioneer's design with the top mounted driver aimed at the ceiling, and the idea of running speaker wire to an existing location instead of figuring out ceiling options.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...akers/SP-EFS73
Fat chance. You can effectively consider Energy speakers dead in terms of interesting new product development. The only thing they've put out since being lobotomized by the Audiovox takeover are crappy subs and soundbars.
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Fat chance. You can effectively consider Energy speakers dead in terms of interesting new product development. The only thing they've put out since being lobotomized by the Audiovox takeover are crappy subs and soundbars.
Yeah but what about a crappy ATMOS soundbar?

That being said, I agree about the crappy subs but I'm not sure whether Energy's soundbars are crappy as far as soundbars go.

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Well my writing was grammatically ambiguous but I meant the adjective "crappy" to refer only to the subs

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Fat chance. You can effectively consider Energy speakers dead in terms of interesting new product development. The only thing they've put out since being lobotomized by the Audiovox takeover are crappy subs and soundbars.
This sucks, I'm in the process of converting my 7.1 setup to Energy except the sub. So far with the C2 mains, C-C1 center, C-R100 side surrounds, Sony rears, and Sony sub it sounds pretty awesome. I would have to look at some speaker options to do Atmos and keep the Energy's still in use.

I remember hearing the C2's back in '97 in the a/v store I was working at, they were absolutely jaw dropping. Glad I bought a pair as they are scarce now.
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This sucks, I'm in the process of converting my 7.1 setup to Energy except the sub. So far with the C2 mains, C-C1 center, C-R100 side surrounds, Sony rears, and Sony sub it sounds pretty awesome. I would have to look at some speaker options to do Atmos and keep the Energy's still in use.
I know nothing about ATMOS but... can't you use regular speakers e.g. in-ceiling speakers or tilted speakers for ATMOS purposes? Surely speakers with mids aimed at the ceiling are not optimal?

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This sucks, I'm in the process of converting my 7.1 setup to Energy except the sub. So far with the C2 mains, C-C1 center, C-R100 side surrounds, Sony rears, and Sony sub it sounds pretty awesome. I would have to look at some speaker options to do Atmos and keep the Energy's still in use.

I remember hearing the C2's back in '97 in the a/v store I was working at, they were absolutely jaw dropping. Glad I bought a pair as they are scarce now.
Yes, the way to go now is to buy vintage Energy speakers which are a shockingly good value if you know what to look for. The "even number" Connoisseurs are phenomenal, I actually just sold a pair of the C-2's (along with some assorted other speakers) and they are just fabulous. I would also highly recommend the RVS speakers if you want matching L/C/R, or their replacement the AC-300 which is the "true" matching center for those speakers (the C-C1 is for the next gen "odd number" Connoissuers).

Sony subs aren't really highly regarded so that should probably be your next upgrade, since I'm spending your money

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I know nothing about ATMOS but... can't you use regular speakers e.g. in-ceiling speakers or tilted speakers for ATMOS purposes? Surely speakers with mids aimed at the ceiling are not optimal?
Upward-firing "virtual" height speakers are a compromise for those who can't physically install speakers on/in the ceiling. Obviously, if you CAN put physical speakers up there it's a better option for implementing Atmos.

The only exception would be if the speakers are so low that the physical speakers would be too "distracting" and "directional" because of how close they are to the listening postition. In this case the more diffuse sound of the reflected speakers can be preferable.

It's sort of like the decision between monopole (precise and directional) vs. dipole (diffuse) surround speakers. The virtual speakers by their nature won't be able to image as precisely as a physical speaker, but the diffuse sound may be subjectively preferred for greater "envelopment".

The reason for them however is because many people aren't going to chop up the ceiling and walls to run wires and install speakers up there. If Dolby depended on this it would probably doom Atmos to be a commercial failure for home use. Thus they spent a lot of time inventing the technology to make these virtual "Atmos enabled" speakers effective in simulating the experience of real overhead speakers. The advantage of course is that you it makes adoption MUCH easier in terms of physically locating the new speakers.

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I know nothing about ATMOS but... can't you use regular speakers e.g. in-ceiling speakers or tilted speakers for ATMOS purposes? Surely speakers with mids aimed at the ceiling are not optimal?
Unfortunately due to landlord restrictions I am limited to what I can do to the walls in my place. I think I may have to try the angle speakers that project toward the ceiling.

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Yes, the way to go now is to buy vintage Energy speakers which are a shockingly good value if you know what to look for. The "even number" Connoisseurs are phenomenal, I actually just sold a pair of the C-2's (along with some assorted other speakers) and they are just fabulous. I would also highly recommend the RVS speakers if you want matching L/C/R, or their replacement the AC-300 which is the "true" matching center for those speakers (the C-C1 is for the next gen "odd number" Connoissuers).

Sony subs aren't really highly regarded so that should probably be your next upgrade, since I'm spending your money
Hmmm........ would I really hear a huge sound quality difference between my current C2's and C-C1 L/C/R setup and the RVS speakers? Reason I ask is that I am extremely happy with my C-series speakers and I just got the center a few weeks ago.

Yea, the Sony sub I have had since forever (early 90's, 120W 12"), I was looking at replacing that with a Velodyne unit.
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Sorry, I wasn't suggesting that the RVS are much better than the C-2 (they aren't, they are approximately equal I would say). I was just making a general comment that they are an awesome value if you can find them used, especially if you can find three of them and get a perfect timbre match across the front three speakers.

In your case I wouldn't go upending the current C-2 / C-C1 setup at all; the subwoofer is then next domino to fall

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No worries, good to hear they are equal, I'd hate to start all over again shopping for a front setup. The C-C1 was the closest center I could get as a match for the C2's.

I love my Sony, however after hearing a friends Velodyne, I was sold.
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