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PoshFrosh,

FWIW, Here's my 3 RC-LCR's behind an acoustically transparent screen.
Have you heard / owned the RC-10? Is there a large difference in sound quality when compared to the RC-LCR with their separate midrange drivers vs the 2-way RC-10?

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Wow! I had no idea the grills would have so much of an effect. Makes me think about running without them. I'd have to go all the way one way or the other though, because I'd want to run Audyssey without the grills if I were going to do all my listening with them removed.

Do you think Audyssey could reasonably "correct" the effect the grills are having? Do you or anyone else have a comparison with an Audyssey-calibrated line added to the same graph you posted?

I guess, as you said, if it sounds good to me, then I should just continue to enjoy my setup.

My next project is: I finally picked up an RC-LCR (when they were $219 recently) and I'm going to experiment with swapping it in and out for the RC70 I currently use (vertically) as a center.
wow good to know. I'm going to take the grills out and see how everything sounds! I have a quick question tho, I have a 7.1 system all RC-10's with RC-LCR center. I have an onkyo TX-SR605 and an ED A2-300 sub (RIP ED). I am very happy with the sound but now that I have been seeing the RC-70 going cheap at FRY's I was wondering if there is any real difference in upgrading the fronts to RC-70. Also, will I get any benefit in upgrading the receiver to something newer? more output? Thanks in advance guys
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Have you heard / owned the RC-10? Is there a large difference in sound quality when compared to the RC-LCR with their separate midrange drivers vs the 2-way RC-10?
Sorry, I have not heard the RC-10's.

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Ok, thanks. I just ordered the RC-LCR, so now I'll have the matching front Soundstage with my RC-10.

I was also wondering about the best placement for the RC-70 towers.

How far from the back wall is ideal for these speakers?

My RC -10 speakers are almost 2 feet from the back wall and they sound very good.
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Attention!!!

Just popped up on ebay:

A pair of V1.8 towers for $500 buy-it-now!!!

They are listed as V2.2's but the pictures are obviously V1.8's. The pics also show a sub and center. They are listed as local pickup only, in Brentwood, California.

Holy road trip Batpig!
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They were showing 28 viewed per hour and only 2 watching. And I'm one of them. I Don't think I've ever seen a pair for less than $1200.

The listing says they are in working condition. One pic clearly shows the V1.8 sticker on the back. You can also see a chunk out of the rear of one of the bases. No biggie.

Come on, somebody grab them so I can stop thinking about them! It's a 3 hour drive for me , and I've already got a pair of RC-70's and V2.3's, along with prolly 20 other Energy speakers. The V1.8's would be the next step up though...
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They were showing 28 viewed per hour and only 2 watching. And I'm one of them. I Don't think I've ever seen a pair for less than $1200.

The listing says they are in working condition. One pic clearly shows the V1.8 sticker on the back. You can also see a chunk out of the rear of one of the bases. No biggie.

Come on, somebody grab them so I can stop thinking about them! It's a 3 hour drive for me , and I've already got a pair of RC-70's and V2.3's, along with prolly 20 other Energy speakers. The V1.8's would be the next step up though...
Damn. Those are the ones that were praised big time. Or was it the 2.8's???
Wish I was closer. No way would I buy them without hearing them first. The bases could be repaired/replaced. The drivers on the other hand...
Have always wanted those, but not as bad as a set of Carver Amazing Platinums.

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Well, somebody got them. I hope they went to a good home. Mine woulda been better tho.
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Damn. Those are the ones that were praised big time. Or was it the 2.8's???
Wish I was closer. No way would I buy them without hearing them first. The bases could be repaired/replaced. The drivers on the other hand...
Have always wanted those, but not as bad as a set of Carver Amazing Platinums.
The 2.8s are the big brother to the 1.8s and apparently need a very large room for them to sing properly. I haven't heard either, but I would be interested if I found a local pair for a reasonable price as well.
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Concerning the grilles on the RC's... I find them super nice. Without them the speakers are very "in your face", perfect for demo nights with the guys, etc. With the grilles on, they look like black monoliths, very subdued, very modern, and the kids are not tempted to put their fingers behind the guard on the tweeter. I love being able to remove the grilles but the look would probably wear out more rapidly without

A quick question regarding high output capabilities. The question popped on another thread regarding compression at high levels with aluminum dome tweeters. Basically whether such a tweeter was capable of reaching reference level without compression in a "typical room" (whatever that is) was the issue. Looks to me like it strongly depends on distance to speaker and room dimensions, but is compression in the highs a known issue with the RC's at high listening levels?

I probably wouldn't be able to notice as my own hearing is not very good above 2kHz anyway.

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I have 2 energy xl-25 and 1 energy xl-c.
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So I currently have a 12x22' room where my current setup is.

Setup Consists of....

3 x LCR Fronts
2 x VS Surrounds
2 x RC 10 Rears
Klipsch PB12 - NSD


I have been seeing some really awesome deals on RC-70's recently. If I replace two of the LCR's with the RC-70's, would I hear a huge difference in game and movies? Not sure its worth the price tag to upgrade and might be overkill for my room.
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So I currently have a 12x22' room where my current setup is.

Setup Consists of....

3 x LCR Fronts
2 x VS Surrounds
2 x RC 10 Rears
Klipsch PB12 - NSD


I have been seeing some really awesome deals on RC-70's recently. If I replace two of the LCR's with the RC-70's, would I hear a huge difference in game and movies? Not sure its worth the price tag to upgrade and might be overkill for my room.
If you have a Fry's nearby run (don't walk) and get a pair with a promo code.

$498 plus tax for a pair is an awesome deal

What do you drive your system with?
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harsh sound in dialogue from RCLCR?

Lately I've noticed a harsh sound coming from (I believe) my RCLCR during some dialogue in movies and TV shows, specifically when actors make an "ess" sound. Does this ring any alarm bells with anyone or point to a specific problem? I wonder if it could be simply due to low quality content streaming over netflix or poor sound editing in movies. Otherwise, could it be a more serious problem with the speaker?

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If you have a Fry's nearby run (don't walk) and get a pair with a promo code.

$498 plus tax for a pair is an awesome deal

What do you drive your system with?
Are they on sale right now? What promo code?

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Are they on sale right now? What promo code?
In-store only, today and tomorrow. You get promo codes via email. PM me if you want mine, I won't be using it.

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Lately I've noticed a harsh sound coming from (I believe) my RCLCR during some dialogue in movies and TV shows, specifically when actors make an "ess" sound. Does this ring any alarm bells with anyone or point to a specific problem? I wonder if it could be simply due to low quality content streaming over netflix or poor sound editing in movies. Otherwise, could it be a more serious problem with the speaker?

What receiver do you have? Some receivers need a firmware update to fix a bug decoding the DD+ audio bitstreams that Netflix sends (there's a whole thread on it).

If you think that could be the issue, try changing your streaming device to output something other than DD+.
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Concerning the grilles on the RC's... I find them super nice. Without them the speakers are very "in your face", perfect for demo nights with the guys, etc. With the grilles on, they look like black monoliths, very subdued, very modern, and the kids are not tempted to put their fingers behind the guard on the tweeter. I love being able to remove the grilles but the look would probably wear out more rapidly without

Agreed. They disappear much better in a dark, dedicated theater with the grilles on. A touch of treble (I use 1.5dB) restores the high end pretty well if you calibrated with grilles off. If you calibrated with grilles on then it should have compensated.
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What receiver do you have? Some receivers need a firmware update to fix a bug decoding the DD+ audio bitstreams that Netflix sends (there's a whole thread on it).

If you think that could be the issue, try changing your streaming device to output something other than DD+.
I'm using a Denon 2112 and streaming Netflix over a PS3 slim. That thread in your link is describing my problem exactly. I'll play around with the settings tonight.

Thanks for the information!
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I just picked up a pair of the Energy RC-70 tower speakers at Frys.

They are on sale, today only, for $249 each. In store pickup only. Promo code needed. Sign up for Frys free newsletter and you'll get the code.

I also picked up the matching RC-LCR center channel speaker for $219.

I had already purchased the RC-10 bookshelf speakers and I was very impressed with them.

Frys runs sales on these Energy speakers from time to time. The RC -10 were on sale yesterday for $199, one day only, in store pickup only. I paid a little more for my RC-10 speakers @ $229, but I'm very happy with them and I still think it's a good deal.

Anyway, I really like these speakers from Energy. To think that some people snub them just because they've been discontinued and discounted is, IMHO, a mistake of epic proportions.

Of course, all of this is my humble, and completely subjective, opinion.

At these prices, I don't see how you can go wrong. They're frequency response is very good, their sound is detailed, but not harsh (no listening fatigue), the cabinets and materials are solid, and the drivers are unique to Energy.

Take advantage of the corporate buyout by Klipsch and Audiovox and get your ears on these beauties in your environment.

I'm glad I heeded the good advice from some fellow forum members and I wound up with some nice, brand new, gear at super discounted prices.
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Are they on sale right now? What promo code?
Yes, I'm enjoying mine in 2 channel from my Tidal membership now.

Looks like the question has been answered but as long as you can go in store, sign up for the promo codes and go grab a pair.
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So I currently have a 12x22' room where my current setup is.

Setup Consists of....

3 x LCR Fronts
2 x VS Surrounds
2 x RC 10 Rears
Klipsch PB12 - NSD


I have been seeing some really awesome deals on RC-70's recently. If I replace two of the LCR's with the RC-70's, would I hear a huge difference in game and movies? Not sure its worth the price tag to upgrade and might be overkill for my room.
Probably not going to make a big difference unless you feel like the RCLCRs don't fill your room well, the 70s would help with that, but you could resell the pair of RCLCR's for 2/3 the cost of the RC70s or use the RCLCRs in a 7.1 setup. If you are close enough to Fry's to buy them in person, I would strongly consider them at $249, but if you have to have them shipped, it might be more headache then it's worth as many of them have been received with freight damage.

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Sign up for email deals and you'll get a promo code. Currently $249 each thru Thursday which is the cheapest I've ever seen them.
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Sign up for email deals and you'll get a promo code. Currently $249 each thru Thursday which is the cheapest I've ever seen them.
Hot buy? Volcanic buy instead! wow.

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Got it. Looks like they are available at both local stores too. Shame they only have the black ash finish. Have never liked speakers in that finish. Just seems so damn cheap.
But for $550, I may just pick them up simply because they are a quality speaker. Wish I could find another set of my V2.2i's for the same price!!! In fact, I'm hoping I can come across either a single or maybe a damaged pair for a good deal. Really want to swap out the center channel with another V2.2i. The Veritas center isn't very good. What sucks is that I had an Atlantic Technology THX Ultra 450 center and sold it to get the matching Veritas center. It was a HUGE step down for dialog. Have regretted it ever since. I'm sure another V2.2i as my center would be a huge step up.
If I do end up buying these RC-70s, they will either sit in their boxes or get used as surrounds. Too bad I can't afford 4 of them to use as my side and rear surrounds.

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