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Are the Rc-10's in the email ad? I looked and didn't see them. Or was it in the Sunday paper ad?


Edit.... found them on their site. I assume no promo code is needed then.

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Are the Rc-10's in the email ad? I looked and didn't see them. Or was it in the Sunday paper ad?


Edit.... found them on their site. I assume no promo code is needed then.
Yup, none needed. They seem to go on sale very regularly.
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Have a chance to pick up a B&K Ref 7250 Series II amp for $450, currently driving my RC-70's plus RC-LCR, Polk FXiA6 surround 5.1 system with the Denon 4520 receiver.
I'm happy with the way they sound but wanted to know thoughts on any improvements an ext amp would have if any?
The B&K is a big amp, 87lbs and rated at 200W/ch at .09% THD at 1Khz 8ohms.
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Have a chance to pick up a B&K Ref 7250 Series II amp for $450, currently driving my RC-70's plus RC-LCR, Polk FXiA6 surround 5.1 system with the Denon 4520 receiver.
I'm happy with the way they sound but wanted to know thoughts on any improvements an ext amp would have if any?
The B&K is a big amp, 87lbs and rated at 200W/ch at .09% THD at 1Khz 8ohms.
The 4520 is a pretty powerful receiver and you are only using 5 of its 9 amps. With only 5ch driven it should be able to easily put out 120+ w/ch (and since all channels aren't driven constantly with real content it's going to be more than that). And the RCs are fairly easy to drive.

The real question is how loud you listen? For a living room type setup where you only get moderately loud -- say no higher than 15-20 dB below reference -- you likely won't see any benefit. If you are trying to play really loud and especially in a bigger room you may be able to eke out a bit more clean headroom and dynamics.
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Have a chance to pick up a B&K Ref 7250 Series II amp for $450, currently driving my RC-70's plus RC-LCR, Polk FXiA6 surround 5.1 system with the Denon 4520 receiver
B&K Reference Series amp's are good, period (as long as it's in good shape). I think the 200WPC power rating is perfect for the front-surround (RC-70's and RC-LCR). It could provide a solid power-base for your system, especially if you upgrade components (speakers, receiver or pre-pro) down the line. To me, it's the way to go these days.
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Are the Rc-10's in the email ad? I looked and didn't see them. Or was it in the Sunday paper ad?


Edit.... found them on their site. I assume no promo code is needed then.

the -70s and LCRs were also on sale for $279 and $219 respectively. after some longggg back and forth thinking, I returned one of the set -10s that I had picked up and picked up two more LCRs for the stage. I was going to go the way of the -70s, but decided I really didn't want floor standing speakers at the current time. that's why I passed on the $249 deal just yesterday. when I clicked to see the if the LCR just might be on sale, my mind was made up for me.


the sales people usually don't know a lot more than I do (as little as that may be), but the person who returned the -10s was a big energy fan and liked my swap. conversely, the person who went to the warehouse to get the LCRs for me asked if I was sure I wanted them and that I'd be more satisified w/ a bose system =)


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The 4520 is a pretty powerful receiver and you are only using 5 of its 9 amps. With only 5ch driven it should be able to easily put out 120+ w/ch (and since all channels aren't driven constantly with real content it's going to be more than that). And the RCs are fairly easy to drive.

The real question is how loud you listen? For a living room type setup where you only get moderately loud -- say no higher than 15-20 dB below reference -- you likely won't see any benefit. If you are trying to play really loud and especially in a bigger room you may be able to eke out a bit more clean headroom and dynamics.
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B&K Reference Series amp's are good, period (as long as it's in good shape). I think the 200WPC power rating is perfect for the front-surround (RC-70's and RC-LCR). It could provide a solid power-base for your system, especially if you upgrade components (speakers, receiver or pre-pro) down the line. To me, it's the way to go these days.
Thanks for the input fellas.
Probably picking it up today.
I know I probably don't really need it but I guess it's a pretty good deal.
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the -70s and LCRs were also on sale for $279 and $219 respectively. after some longggg back and forth thinking, I returned one of the set -10s that I had picked up and picked up two more LCRs for the stage. I was going to go the way of the -70s, but decided I really didn't want floor standing speakers at the current time. that's why I passed on the $249 deal just yesterday. when I clicked to see the if the LCR just might be on sale, my mind was made up for me.


the sales people usually don't know a lot more than I do (as little as that may be), but the person who returned the -10s was a big energy fan and liked my swap. conversely, the person who went to the warehouse to get the LCRs for me asked if I was sure I wanted them and that I'd be more satisified w/ a bose system =)


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You gotta be kidding me. Obviously the warehouse guy has never listened to good speakers.

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the sales people usually don't know a lot more than I do (as little as that may be), but the person who returned the -10s was a big energy fan and liked my swap. conversely, the person who went to the warehouse to get the LCRs for me asked if I was sure I wanted them and that I'd be more satisified w/ a bose system =)


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You can't make this stuff up... !
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Future Shop employees are the same way. When I bought my RC70s, they were priced lower than the CF70s. The associate was trying to talk me into upgrading to the more expensive speaker. Another time I was there and no one in the A/V department had a clue what audyssey was even though they carry Onkyo, Denon and Marantz. This is the company that claims to be the "electronic experts" in their advertising.
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I posted for FS my V-mini center speakers (have 3 for sale) if anyone is interested in the classified section. I used the three as my front stage so I have the mounting hardware that i used so two of them can be used as left and right. I am also looking for a pair of black v-mini bookshelf speakers to use as surrounds if anyone knows where I could find a pair. They seem to be hard to come by in black.
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You gotta be kidding me. Obviously the warehouse guy has never listened to good speakers.
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You can't make this stuff up... !
lol...i kid you not. the gent was an older person who was working in TVs. to be fair, at least he knew what an LCR was and knew right away where on the display shelf to go to get the inventory card. the other sales person in the same department looked at me like i was nuts when i asked for two "energy LCRS."

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Ignorance is bliss for some people in regards to sound quality. You also have to take into account the power of advertising. On the other hand, he might have just been messing with you.

As for the sales clerk not understanding your asking for two RC-LCR speakers, he probably isn't familiar with the product. It says it right on the box, that the RC-LCR can be used as a left, center, and/or right speaker.

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When I had my theater business, one of my distributors had Bose on their line card. To become a dealer you had to go through a training class. I was open the day they had it so I went ahead and sat in on it. I was only interested in their plant pot speakers for patio/garden use.
Their line was a 70 point line!!! In other words, you buy it for 70% off retail. No wonder so many people try to sell it!!! You can make a fortune on it. I never finished the class, left half way through during one of the breaks. lol
Advertising and incentive for the seller is how Bose has become a household name.

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When I had my theater business, one of my distributors had Bose on their line card. To become a dealer you had to go through a training class. I was open the day they had it so I went ahead and sat in on it. I was only interested in their plant pot speakers for patio/garden use.
Their line was a 70 point line!!! In other words, you buy it for 70% off retail. No wonder so many people try to sell it!!! You can make a fortune on it. I never finished the class, left half way through during one of the breaks. lol
Advertising and incentive for the seller is how Bose has become a household name.
To further what spinnin said about the power of advertising, it has become evident to me over the years that the first brand that comes to mind with any particular type of product is always the one that advertises the most, but rarely does that same brand offer the best product or value.

Dollars spent advertising has a more direct correlation to bottom dollar profits than does research and development. Sad.
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