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post #53341 of 53359 Old 03-03-2015, 09:25 PM
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I like the klipsch, but I really need a new center channel. So I was kinda waiting for s klipsch center to go on sale. Now frys has the energy's on sale. I guess I need to go listen to them.
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I like the klipsch, but I really need a new center channel. So I was kinda waiting for s klipsch center to go on sale. Now frys has the energy's on sale. I guess I need to go listen to them.
As I mentioned before (and I know tons of others have as well), the Energy's and Klipsch's have much different sound signatures. The Energy's are warmer and more laid back, the Klipsch are more clean and crisp. IMO the Energy excel at music, the Klipsch at movies. But, I think the Energy is better at movies than the Klipsch are at music, if that makes sense. (I'm talking about RC-52/RF-52 vs RC-70/RC-LCR)

Definitely try listening to both, and seeing what you like best. I have the Klipsch Reference line, but I am changing over to the Energy RC line.
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Went to Fry's. Bought 2 energy rc 70, 3 rc lcr and 2 rc r from ebay.
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Ah. You don't need to go through that, since the RC-10's are not part of the equation.

The crossover value shouldn't be an issue if you have all your speakers defined as Large. It should be ignored, since the crossover is not enabled.

Are you using the same input as you did before? your AVR can have different speaker configurations for separate inputs.
The sound is the same regardless of the input.

I ended up resetting the processor on the HK in order to clear all the previously stored settings.

Now,

The Speakers are all set to LARGE.

The Sub is set to NONE

But, the x-over is still listed as 40 Hz for each speaker. The default setting is 100 Hz.

Since the Sub is set to NONE and all the speakers are set to LARGE, I would imagine that the x-over setting(s) wouldn't be in use. No matter what, the x-over settings are variable starting at 40 Hz - 200 Hz.

After some more listening ,after the receiver was reset, it sounds fine, but I still think †hat certain surround sound fields cut the bass / low frequencies off below 40 Hz.

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Just because it shows 40hz doesnt mean it is being applied. Are you expecting your speakers to even play below 40hz??? Im willing to bet they are playing fullrange and just rolling off on their own.

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Just because it shows 40hz doesnt mean it is being applied. Are you expecting your speakers to even play below 40hz??? Im willing to bet they are playing fullrange and just rolling off on their own.
Yes, I do expect the RC-70 speakers to play below 40 Hz

From Energy's PDF: http://www.energy-speakers.com/docs/...0/RC-70_OM.pdf

"RC-70 Frequency response: 31 Hz ~ 23 kHz +/- 3 dB. Usable Response: -10 dB Anechoic @ 26 Hz"

But not the RC-LCR:

"RC-LCR Frequency response: 48 Hz ~ 23 kHz +/- 3 dB. Usable Response: -10 dB Anechoic @ 42 Hz"

And not the RC-10:

"RC-10 Frequency response: 50 Hz ~ 23 kHz +/- 3 dB. Usable Response: -10 dB Anechoic @ 43 Hz"


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There are several third party measurements of these speakers out there. The RC-70s are rolling off pretty steeply by <40hz.
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The review I gave for the RC70s, I mentioned that I thought they have built in subsonic filters to keep them from playing the low stuff. I would play a sweep from 5hz up and the cones wouldnt move until they started producing sound. I'm guessing 30hz or so.

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It may also be that since this is now a three channel setup, (3.0), the distribution of sound is tilted towards the center channel, which rolls off before the RC 70's. Just speculating now, maybe a small sub (I understand you're being considerate to your neighbors) would help.
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Can the RC-LCR be wall mounted? If so, does anybody have any pictures of them wall mounted? And back to my initial question, How do they do for music and how will they compare to my A5+2's. Fry's is less than a mile away from me but they only have one RC-LCR set up and it's for center channel stuff. I guess I might see if they'll get another one out and hook them up in a left/right configuration so I can listen to some music.
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Can the RC-LCR be wall mounted? If so, does anybody have any pictures of them wall mounted? And back to my initial question, How do they do for music and how will they compare to my A5+2's. Fry's is less than a mile away from me but they only have one RC-LCR set up and it's for center channel stuff. I guess I might see if they'll get another one out and hook them up in a left/right configuration so I can listen to some music.
http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Clam...+speaker+mount

I use these for my RC-10's and they are great. The RC-LCR will fit, but given the width of the LCR (height in a vertical position), they may be prone to tipping over if you have kids with wandering hands. Im sure you could find some sort of elastic band or velcro strap to wrap around the speaker while it is seated on the stands for extra stability.

The mounts can go in a stud and wont go anywhere. Studs weren't available where I mounted mine, so I used butterfly drywall anchors and they are very secure. The RC-10's are obviously lighter, but it looks like you still have 8-9 pounds of speaker to spare and be within the specs of the stand.

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Energy Veritas 1.8 Speakers - $1200 (downtown vancouver)

I was thinking about making the 7 hour round trip drive to check these out, but I just don't know if I can justify reaching that deep into my wallet for 20+ year old speakers. I'd love to hear them though.

(fixed the URL)

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Can the RC-LCR be wall mounted? If so, does anybody have any pictures of them wall mounted? And back to my initial question, How do they do for music and how will they compare to my A5+2's. Fry's is less than a mile away from me but they only have one RC-LCR set up and it's for center channel stuff. I guess I might see if they'll get another one out and hook them up in a left/right configuration so I can listen to some music.
I hooked my single LCR up to my cheap Lepai 2020 20W amp on one channel and was really impressed with the depth, richness, and warmness (yes I realize that's not a word lol) of the sound. When I turned up the bass knob they provided tons of bass. If they were behind a screen I honestly would've thought the sound was coming from a tower. Sounded great with jazz, EDM, and some acoustic tracks (didn't have tons of time to test them). I bet two of them would be great for music in a medium sized room
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Energy Veritas 1.8 Speakers - $1200 (downtown vancouver)

I was thinking about making the 7 hour round trip drive to check these out, but I just don't know if I can justify reaching that deep into my wallet for 20+ year old speakers. I'd love to hear them though.

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that's a great deal age is not important if the speakers have a great sound.

This people have a business restoring vintage JBL speakers.

https://www.youtube.com/user/hosoken007/videos

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that's a great deal age is not important if the speakers have a great sound.

This people live restoring vintage JBL speakers.

https://www.youtube.com/user/hosoken007/videos
http://www.diysoundgroup.com/wavegui...ion15-kit.html

Another option that has been suggested.
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http://www.diysoundgroup.com/wavegui...ion15-kit.html

Another option that has been suggested.

look like very good speakers but for the price and the time to build the speakers ,I prefer to drive and take those energy gems.
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They look pristine for their age. I would pay it if they were local.

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look like very good speakers but for the price and the time to build the speakers ,I prefer to drive and take those energy gems.
It would definitely be one item off my bucket list. Also, the canadian dollar is worth less than 80 USA cents right now so a pair of those DIY speakers at $387 each would cost me around $1000 + 12% border tax. I have heard a similar pair before though and they were very impressive.

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They look pristine for their age. I would pay it if they were local.
The frustrating part is that I have family in Vancouver and was just down there for a visit. I left on the day that ad was posted.

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