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never believed in this either, but for some reason the rc series seems to defy this. these were my only speakers that i've noticed an "improvement" on once the hours were tacked on. it seems others have come to the same conclusion.
Stiff cones and tight rubber. I do believe they get better.
I've heard it in car speakers as well.
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I have NO doubt they will be fantastic (like my RC30's) once broken in. After measuring the speakers themselves, I am wondering if they will be too big or simply too much for the room. It will be approximately 15x16.5 ft with a scaled ceiling 9.9ft down to 8ft.

Is there such a thing as too big? LOL

Call me silly, but I had to ask. I also have a buttkicker and may forego a dedicated sub for a while to see of the RC70s can bridge the gap.

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I was hoping for a little feedback on the room size for the new RC70's. My current RC30's will likely stay in the house (to be sold) and the new home has a 15X16.5ft media room with with a scaled ceiling 9.9ft down to 8ft in the front. Are the RC70's too much for this small room?

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Or give them more of your business by buying the the matching RC10s and RCLCR.

I will definitely order an RC-LCR for the center channel when Frys runs a sale on them again at that $220 mark. Hoping that won't be too long. I have some Atlantic Technology speakers for center/rears that are will do fine in the meantime.......... I may not replace the rears.
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Looks like i may be getting a pair of v2.8s in a couple of weeks! If all goes well ill post my thoughts and how they compare to the other towers I've had or have (v6.3/2.4i). I briefly heard the rc series but never owned any (except for pair of rc-r) as i always preferred veritas...just my taste

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Looks like i may be getting a pair of v2.8s in a couple of weeks! If all goes well ill post my thoughts and how they compare to the other towers I've had or have (v6.3/2.4i). I briefly heard the rc series but never owned any (except for pair of rc-r) as i always preferred veritas...just my taste
Wow. Good luck!
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Thanks. I hope it works out. Here is a pic of them. Look pretty nice!
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Thanks. I hope it works out. Here is a pic of them. Look pretty nice!
Lucky Dawg!!! I would be happy to find some 2.4i's at a decent price. Would love to have a full matching Veritas I series setup. At least for the front stage.

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No more Future Shop means the end of Energy in Canada? I'm gonna be on the hunt if theres going to be a blowout of FS stock.

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New Energy Owner

I recently became a member of the Energy owners club. I am in the process of a slow build out of a new home theater setup. At present it is a combination of new equipment and whatever spare equipment I have on hand. The front L/R speakers were my first purchase for new audio equipment. I went to the local BB to check out and possibly purchase the Klipsch R-28F or R-26F towers since Klipsch seems to be popular with the home theater crowd and they were sale at 50% off. Long story short, one of the guys in the Magnolia section offered me deal on pair of CF-70 towers for $50 more than a pair of R-28F towers. I took them home and they survived the 30 day return period. Next up was the center channel. I went back the BB recently to see if they could get me a deal on the CC-10. The price they gave me was the same as the on sale price for a RC-LCR at Fry's. Since the RC-LCR is a better speaker for the same price I went and got the RC-LCR instead. I received the RC-LCR a few days ago and even though it not yet broken in, I am very pleased with it.

My next target is the L/R surround speakers. My surround speakers mount to a wall that people need to be able to walk along so I am looking at compact speakers that have small depth or something that I would feel comfortable mounting higher up on the wall to help avoid people bumping into the speaker as they walk by. This eliminates most bookshelf type speakers as a possibility. About the only thing in the Energy lineup that I am considering is the CR-10 which is for use as a rear channel speaker. The CR-10 does angle down when flush mounted so I would be comfortable mounting it higher for better clearance and it would still be directed at the listening position. Other speakers that I am considering are the Def Tech Mythos Gem, Mythos Gem XL, Mythos XTR-20BP, ProMonitor 800, and the Martin Login Motion 2.

Any opinions on using the CR-10 as L/R surround speakers? Or any of the other speakers that I mentioned?
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How much were the CF-70's? Did you consider the RC-70's at Frys?
As far as surrounds, maybe find some used RC-Rs or something like that.

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No more Future Shop means the end of Energy in Canada? I'm gonna be on the hunt if theres going to be a blowout of FS stock.
They only Energy line that Future Shop was still selling was the connoisseur series. I'd imagine if FS was turning a profit on them that BB would continue on the same path. Even if they do decide to pull the plug, they'll have to do something with current stock so possibly some clearance pricing when they re-open their doors on the 4th.
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Thanks @batpig and @Aarghon .

So i tried following options:
1. Set RC-70 (Front) as Large and SUB Set as PLUS (Double BASS where receiver is duplicating the BASE to SUB)

2. Set RC-70 (Front) as Small and SUB Set as YES

With the both cases i tried the X Over Frequency is set to 50Hz, 80Hz and 100Hz.

But still same issue.
Thanks Guys, it worked now. I needed to restart the Receiver to apply the changes and now its working fine.
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Thanks Guys, it worked now. I needed to restart the Receiver to apply the changes and now its working fine.
Well, how does it sound?
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Well, how does it sound?
Did you mean Overall Sound RC-70 + SUB or RC-70 Sound only?

Overall Sound RC-70 with SUB is better than RC-70 sound only.

The RC-70 sound is clear, nice to ear and doesn't sound harsh which makes it easy for long listening hours.
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The CF-70s were $500 for the pair. Honestly, I knew nothing about Energy speakers until I bought the CF-70s. I had not considered the RC-70, but the after I got the RC-LCR I might consider replacing the CF-70s at the Fry's sale price. I'm not complaining about the CF-70 at the moment though.

As for the RC-R or the V-S, I think they are NLA new, so I would have to find a used pair. For the size of those speakers I would want to mount them ~7ft high on the wall to get them up and out of the way. I suppose I could fab a mount to angle them down a bit while keeping them close to a flush mount.
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The CF-70s were $500 for the pair. Honestly, I knew nothing about Energy speakers until I bought the CF-70s. I had not considered the RC-70, but the after I got the RC-LCR I might consider replacing the CF-70s at the Fry's sale price. I'm not complaining about the CF-70 at the moment though.

As for the RC-R or the V-S, I think they are NLA new, so I would have to find a used pair. For the size of those speakers I would want to mount them ~7ft high on the wall to get them up and out of the way. I suppose I could fab a mount to angle them down a bit while keeping them close to a flush mount.
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Not Energy but if you sign up on the Polk Audio website you can get a 50% off code and grab a pair of FXiA6 or FXiA4's.
Nice bipole/dipole soeakers and mount flush. 7' high would be good also.
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Suggestion?
Not Energy but if you sign up on the Polk Audio website you can get a 50% off code and grab a pair of FXiA6 or FXiA4's.
Nice bipole/dipole soeakers and mount flush. 7' high would be good also.
What are people's feelings on the Fluance surrounds? http://www.amazon.com/Fluance-XLBP-D.../ref=pd_cp_e_2
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The CF-70s were $500 for the pair. Honestly, I knew nothing about Energy speakers until I bought the CF-70s. I had not considered the RC-70, but the after I got the RC-LCR I might consider replacing the CF-70s at the Fry's sale price. I'm not complaining about the CF-70 at the moment though.

As for the RC-R or the V-S, I think they are NLA new, so I would have to find a used pair. For the size of those speakers I would want to mount them ~7ft high on the wall to get them up and out of the way. I suppose I could fab a mount to angle them down a bit while keeping them close to a flush mount.
I have a pair of VSs. Send me a PM if interested.
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The CF-70s were $500 for the pair. Honestly, I knew nothing about Energy speakers until I bought the CF-70s. I had not considered the RC-70, but the after I got the RC-LCR I might consider replacing the CF-70s at the Fry's sale price. I'm not complaining about the CF-70 at the moment though.

As for the RC-R or the V-S, I think they are NLA new, so I would have to find a used pair. For the size of those speakers I would want to mount them ~7ft high on the wall to get them up and out of the way. I suppose I could fab a mount to angle them down a bit while keeping them close to a flush mount.
I haven't heard the CF-70 but I believe @batpig has and recommended the RC-70's over them.
If not too much hassle you might consider it if you can find the RC-70's at the latest sale price of around $250 each at Fry's.
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I have a pair of V2.3s. I noticed that one speaker had some noise at the higher volumes. When looking at it closely, the rubber surround on one of the woofers started to separate from the cone ( looks like unglued ). Anyone ever try to repair? Easy to do or should I take it in? What kind of glue is usually used? Any input would be appreciated.
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Was it a bit of a rattling noise. Id say just take it to any speaker repair place and have them do it unless u know what ur doing. It shouldn't cost more than a couple of bucks. I believe some type of epoxy glue is used.
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They only Energy line that Future Shop was still selling was the connoisseur series. I'd imagine if FS was turning a profit on them that BB would continue on the same path. Even if they do decide to pull the plug, they'll have to do something with current stock so possibly some clearance pricing when they re-open their doors on the 4th.
On Friday I was in the speaker room brokering a deal for the last remaining Veritas vr63 they had.The manager myself and sales associate were all in on the deal.Had them at $750 OTD,I was gonna pick them up on Saturday.Little did any of us know what was gonna happen.IM a little pissed cause thats a smokin deal for those speakers.Since there already a BB around the corner that FS got shut down and all stock sent back to mothership warehouse.Piss me off.

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Suggestion?
Not Energy but if you sign up on the Polk Audio website you can get a 50% off code and grab a pair of FXiA6 or FXiA4's.
Nice bipole/dipole soeakers and mount flush. 7' high would be good also.
Suggestions are welcome and I like 50% off, but those speakers are larger than what I would like. I am not ruling them out. I'll have to mock up something and place it on the wall to see what might work for the larger speakers.

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I have a pair of VSs. Send me a PM if interested.
I might be interested. I need to figure out the fit of the larger speakers.
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I have a pair of V2.3s. I noticed that one speaker had some noise at the higher volumes. When looking at it closely, the rubber surround on one of the woofers started to separate from the cone ( looks like unglued ). Anyone ever try to repair? Easy to do or should I take it in? What kind of glue is usually used? Any input would be appreciated.
How much is unglued? If 1/3 or less, you could reglue it yourself. You might be able to reglue it if more than a 1/3 has become unglued, but the more that comes unglued the more difficult it is to maintain proper alignment. If you do not maintain alignment, the voice coil will rub and make noise. When replacing surrounds or reconing speakers a shim is used to keep the voice coil aligned until everything is glued in place. If you are lucky you might see an impression in the old glue showing where the surround was glued and use that as a guide. You can find the right type of glue at places that carry speaker repair parts.
http://www.parts-express.com/parts-e...ottle--340-076

As to whether you should repair it yourself or not, it is hard to say. It depends on how much is unglued and your skill/comfort level with doing the repair. I will also point out that I have replaced foam surrounds but have no experience regluing partially unglued surrounds, so my advice could be off base one way or the other.
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Did you mean Overall Sound RC-70 + SUB or RC-70 Sound only?

Overall Sound RC-70 with SUB is better than RC-70 sound only.

The RC-70 sound is clear, nice to ear and doesn't sound harsh which makes it easy for long listening hours.
Yeah, I meant with whichever one you picked but both will do.
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Yeah, I meant with whichever one you picked but both will do.
First i used RC-70 as Front Left and Right only for Music. I felt the BASS was not good. I was expecting RC-70 to produce better BASS, and since i live in apartment i really didn't wanted to have a SUB. One of the motivation of buying a Tower speaker was to avoid a SUB and still get good BASS which will be enough for apartment.

But i didn't like overall sound with RC-70 only, the BASS was not there. Even my Car speakers which are factory installed were producing better BASS.

So i just bought an used SONY SA-W2500 SUB which is 100 Watt to try. And after setting my receiver to use SUB, i almost love the overall sound. This was much better.

I am still within 100 hours of break-in duration for RC-70 so i am still expecting RC-70 to improve its BASS performance. Lets see.

For now I am happy with RC-70 + SUB
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First i used RC-70 as Front Left and Right only for Music. I felt the BASS was not good. I was expecting RC-70 to produce better BASS, and since i live in apartment i really didn't wanted to have a SUB. One of the motivation of buying a Tower speaker was to avoid a SUB and still get good BASS which will be enough for apartment.

But i didn't like overall sound with RC-70 only, the BASS was not there. Even my Car speakers which are factory installed were producing better BASS.

So i just bought an used SONY SA-W2500 SUB which is 100 Watt to try. And after setting my receiver to use SUB, i almost love the overall sound. This was much better.

I am still within 100 hours of break-in duration for RC-70 so i am still expecting RC-70 to improve its BASS performance. Lets see.

For now I am happy with RC-70 + SUB

I had this speakers ,saying that your car factory speakers produce more bass is an exaggeration ,I dont know what receiver do you use or what are your receiver settings but this speakers produce plenty of mid bass to feel on your chest,now if you have a living room with lots of open areas that can be a problem even for a sub.

I believe in this speakers break in ,they get loose over time and sound better . the material of the driver is very stiff so give it a time.

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Has anyone noticed that the screws securing the drivers in the cabinet get loose after removing the drivers a few times? Each time I have taken them out, more and more wood shavings come out with the screws and the looser they seem when screwing them back in. Only thing I can think of is to try the toothpick trick down the road???
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I always use the round minty ones ,,,
If the hole/screw is bigger you can also use a wooden shish-kabob skewer.
This trick is a life saver ....
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First i used RC-70 as Front Left and Right only for Music. I felt the BASS was not good. I was expecting RC-70 to produce better BASS, and since i live in apartment i really didn't wanted to have a SUB. One of the motivation of buying a Tower speaker was to avoid a SUB and still get good BASS which will be enough for apartment.

But i didn't like overall sound with RC-70 only, the BASS was not there. Even my Car speakers which are factory installed were producing better BASS.

So i just bought an used SONY SA-W2500 SUB which is 100 Watt to try. And after setting my receiver to use SUB, i almost love the overall sound. This was much better.

I am still within 100 hours of break-in duration for RC-70 so i am still expecting RC-70 to improve its BASS performance. Lets see.

For now I am happy with RC-70 + SUB
I noticed that my RC 70's bass response improved enormously after a few months ...like night and day IMO
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