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post #54871 of 54882 Old 07-17-2016, 04:07 PM
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energy take classic 5.1 to 7.1

First post here so forgive my lack of knowledge as so many of you admirably possess. New purchases of a Denon x2200 and Energy take Classic 5.1(good sale prices on both) Not being a polished audiophile it sounds very good to me. I am limited to space in the front so that played a part in my speaker decision, as well as budget. My question is, I have a pair of Bose 301 book shelf speakers(doing nothing) and room behind and above the sofa to mount them to possibly make a 7.1 system. Is a setup like this doable and reasonable, or just a bad mismatch? I really don't have room to make them front speakers and from reading that may push me into buying a better center speaker blowing my budget. Thanks all
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Since you already have the speakers you can definitely try it. They might actually make good surrounds since they're direct/reflecting speakers.

plus they can be placed horizontally. Probably not timbre matched to your Energy but surrounds don't matter as much as the front 3 speakers.

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Since you already have the speakers you can definitely try it. They might actually make good surrounds since they're direct/reflecting speakers.

plus they can be placed horizontally. Probably not timbre matched to your Energy but surrounds don't matter as much as the front 3 speakers.
Thanks Afro Gt,
I'll be doing the wiring and mounting this coming week and I will report back. Great forum for guys like me.
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Thanks Afro Gt,
I'll be doing the wiring and mounting this coming week and I will report back. Great forum for guys like me.
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I have the Takes, and bought a second set to give me 7.2. In hindsight, the extra two surrounds didn't do a whole lot for me (yes, they were placed per Dolby guidelines). IMO the 2nd sub helped more. I suggest you test things with temporary setups before putting holes in walls or whatever. Plus, you don't know if the 301's work better as sides or rears. Have fun :-)
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I just scored a pair of Cb10's for my Surround speakers on FleBay for $64 shipped. The only down fall is that one was missing a speaker grill. If anyone here has an extra, they're willing to part with, I'd gladly purchase it, or a pair. Send me a PM if you do.


With those, that will replace the Take 2's I currently have for SLR/SRR. Cb20+CC5 Center, Klipsch Sub-12HG, Yamaha VX477 and now the Cb10's for the surrounds. This is my "starter" setup, and I look forward to continue upgrading in the near future.
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That's a terrific starter set!! Honestly it's WAY better than what most people would consider a starter kit (e.g. soundbar, HTIB, mini Polk/Klipsch sub-sat rig, etc). I would target a center channel upgrade and keep your eyes on eBay for a cheap CC-10, which will be a much better match for the CB-20 fronts. Also keep your eyes peeled for a good deal on a nicer used sub, I've seen great subs like Outlaw LFM-1 for $200ish, and even used Klipsch 12" subs for that or less. Add a second sub to pair with the current one, upgrade the center and you'll be rocking the 99th percentile of HT setups

Maybe try calling Energy parts dept and see if they have extra grills lying around?

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Thanks Batpig, the CC-10 has be atop my list for a while, but they seem to be a unicorn on the internet as of lately. I scored this Sub for $169 shipped, so I can't complain. If I do end up upgrading I planned on a BIC-F12 I think next, but we'll see how this one sounds.


I may do some more digging around the internet, and see if they offer it as a replacement part, otherwise, I'll just use the grilles from the CB10's I have in my Record Player room, and have those be exposed for now.
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Thanks Batpig, the CC-10 has be atop my list for a while, but they seem to be a unicorn on the internet as of lately. I scored this Sub for $169 shipped, so I can't complain. If I do end up upgrading I planned on a BIC-F12 I think next, but we'll see how this one sounds.


I may do some more digging around the internet, and see if they offer it as a replacement part, otherwise, I'll just use the grilles from the CB10's I have in my Record Player room, and have those be exposed for now.
If a BIC F-12 is what you plan to upgrade to...please aim higher!

I have one in my 5.1 system in my guest room. It's just "OK" for the low-level system it's mated to (Pioneer VSX530, Ascend CBM170-SE L-R, Martin Logan Motion C, Infinity SS-1000 surrounds) but can't hold a candle to my SVS SB2000 or my son's SVS PB2000.

Take your time and save up more. A BIC F-12 really isn't much of an upgrade. BTW, I picked up the one I have from Craigslist for $120 in mint condition.
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Agreed -- the Klipsch is already a decent 12" budget sub, so you should aim higher for an upgrade. My suggestion was more about looking for another inexpensive 12" sub to pair with it for dual subs, not necessarily the next step up. But if you want to take a long-term view then, yeah, upgrading to something much better is a good plan.

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batpig, situation is changing as I'm typing this. The Emotiva monoblocks are no longer available but got a stereo amp ST-500 mkii instead, from HiFi Heaven, they have free shipping to Hawaii. The amp is lot smaller and lighter too. Now that I think of it, I think this was a blessing in disguise because, ST-500 seem to have better reviews than the Emotiva. Don't know if it's a better product, but HiFi Heaven suggested it and Jim at HiFi was really helpful.

As for the zone 3, I think I want my 5.2.4 config than a 7.2.2 config, which I will have if I have the zone 3 enabled. I will take your advice and keep an eye for a better center and will lower the volume for the veritas as not to overpower the rest of my HT speakers. Hopefully, when I do the YPAO calibration, YPAO will level match the speakers. The speakers should be shipping today from Hilo, I live in Honolulu, and hopefully get the amp by the end of next week. Mahalo for all your help and suggestions, this is a great forum.
Update, got the Veritas 1.8 and W4S ST-500 mkii amp to power the Veritas. The Veritas is in very good condition. Hooked in up to the RX-A2040 and been listening to the new setup for a couple of days. My old setup, CF-30’s as fronts with two subs was very good but the Veritas took the sound quality to another level. I hear others say that good speakers blend in and just disappear, now I know what they’re talking about. You can hear sounds coming from somewhere in front but can’t pick out the source. Sounds are clearer and fuller. Movies sounds better too and the CC-10 is just fine as center, just had to adjust the level 2 db higher. My problem now is can’t decide which is better for music, straight with the two subs or pure direct with only the Veritas.

Question though, the manufacturer recommend a 300 hours break-in for the amp. Does this mean 300 consecutive hours or can I play it 6 hours today and 6 hours tomorrow and so on?
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300 hours break in for an amplifier? WTF??

I'm sure if there is actually any "break in" it will just happen naturally over the course of use. You don't need to leave it on for 300 hours consecutively

What a score to find those local in Hawaii!

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300 hours break in for an amplifier? WTF??

I'm sure if there is actually any "break in" it will just happen naturally over the course of use. You don't need to leave it on for 300 hours consecutively

What a score to find those local in Hawaii!
And thank you for giving me that little push not to pass it up. I was very satisfied with my old setup and wasn’t even looking for speakers while browsing the local craiglist. Funny thing is, I haven’t visited craiglist for over a year or two. But that’s when I saw it and posted pulling the trigger in this forum. Had to convince significant other for approval before pulling the trigger though. Another coincidence is that my brother happened to be working in Hilo at that time, I’m in Honolulu, and I asked him to audition the speakers for me. If my brother wasn’t there, I would never have pulled the trigger. And Denis, the guy I bought it from is first class; he packed the speakers really good with foam, cardboards and plastic wrap; tied the speakers to a pallet with tie downs for shipping, really safe and secure. I think someone up there wanted me to get these speakers, mahalo.
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