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post #55051 of 55067 Old 11-15-2016, 09:14 PM
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Thanks. is Carbon-fiber speaker like Energy Sub got better than paper based ones?
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These mics are typically used only one time, so you might find it cheaper on eBay or could even borrow one from some local person that has a Yamaha AVR - I'm guessing they all use the same mic.

Also, what speakers do you have? That would dictate what your crossover setting should be. 100 is good for many bookshelves, but too high for floor standers and too low for satellites.
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Thanks. is Carbon-fiber speaker like Energy Sub got better than paper based ones?
I'm not sure it makes all that much difference. More important to hear how it sounds, how flat the response is, how loud and low it goes. I've got the ESW-8 from the Take Classic 5.1 package and it's pretty damn good for how cheap and small it is. I've since upgraded to an SVS SB2000 and the ESW-8 can hang with it pretty far. So the ESW-10 should be a mighty fine sub. Enjoy!
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Anyone can tell me if the excel model is older than the encore model or which one is better thank you
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If you're talking about the Excel and Encore bookshelf speakers they're from around the same period. Early 90's I think.

Excel has 6.5" woofer while the Encore has the 5.25" woofer. I have the Excel speakers and they sound great. The only drawback is that the grill does not come off. A little brighter than the RC-10's I have and very basic build quality. I got my pair off Craigslist for $50 so they're just fine for my use.


There is also the Encore satellite/sub system but those are completely different. They came out in the early 2000's a few years after the Takes.

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thanks for the reply afrogt
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I had it backwards. The Encore was the one with the larger 6.5" woofer.

Specification:
Type: Vented-2 way design
non-diffracting enclosure
Tweeters: 1 - 1/2" titanium dome
Woofers: 1 - 6-1/2 injection molded with foam surround
Frequency Response(+/- 3dB): 48 Hz - 20k Hz
Usable Bass: 42Hz
Crossover Points: 2.5 kHz
Sensitivity: 87.5 dB
Impedance: 8 ohms nominal/ 4 ohms minimum
Rec. Amp. Power: 25 watts - 100 watts
Maximum Power Handling: 100 watts
Dimensions(HxWxD): 12-1/2" x 7-3/4" x 9-1/2"
Finish: Black Ash

Energy Excel has the 5.25" woofer
- rear firing bass reflex port
- 1/2" Titanium dome tweeter
- 5 1/4" poly woofer
- sensitivity 86 dB
- nominal impedance of 8 ohm
- power handling 25 to 80 Watt
- frequency response 60 HZ - 20 KHz (+/-3dB)
- crossover point 3.5 KHz

I have the Encore bookshelf pair

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Time for another HT. The room is 12' x 16'. Thinking of some CB-20 for the fronts with the RC-LCR. What should I use for the rears? Right now I'm able to find these new.
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Time for another HT. The room is 12' x 16'. Thinking of some CB-20 for the fronts with the RC-LCR. What should I use for the rears? Right now I'm able to find these new.
Its typically not recommended to mix and match the front 3 because of timbre matching. The CB-20's will be a bit brighter that the RC-LCR. If your receiver has a good room correction software, it may be able to match them pretty well. But personally, I would look into the RC-10's with the RC-LCR, or a CC-10 with the CB-20's.

As for surrounds, are you looking for bookshelf or bipolar speakers? I personally use a pair if Fluance XLBP bipolar speakers with my RC-10/rc-mini-c system and they work pretty well.
http://www.fluance.com/bipolar-speak...pair-black-ash

Its not as important to match the surrounds to the front 3 due to the separation of the speakers and the limited content sent to the surround channels.
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Its typically not recommended to mix and match the front 3 because of timbre matching. The CB-20's will be a bit brighter that the RC-LCR. If your receiver has a good room correction software, it may be able to match them pretty well. But personally, I would look into the RC-10's with the RC-LCR, or a CC-10 with the CB-20's.

As for surrounds, are you looking for bookshelf or bipolar speakers? I personally use a pair if Fluance XLBP bipolar speakers with my RC-10/rc-mini-c system and they work pretty well.
http://www.fluance.com/bipolar-speak...pair-black-ash

Its not as important to match the surrounds to the front 3 due to the separation of the speakers and the limited content sent to the surround channels.

Thanks for the suggestion- I wanted to go with the CC-10, but I'm having a hard time finding one.


My other setup- link below, is using the CR-10's in the rear. Can't find any of these either right now. I'll look into the fluance- what about klipsch R-14S?


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Afrogt should i buy old speaker encore energy at 40$ or newer one like cb-20 for 100$ ??? thanks
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Afrogt should i buy old speaker encore energy at 40$ or newer one like cb-20 for 100$ ??? thanks
I would get the newer speaker at those prices. Build quality / cabinet aesthetics are better, and less chance of something having gone bad over the years. The CB speakers sound pretty good too.

EDIT: also it's going to be much easier finding matching speakers on the used market to expand to a full surround setup with newer models

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thank you,,, it makes sense because the encore speaker we cannot remove the black grill cannot see if the cone is damage over the years.
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those older Encore/Excel models are over 20 years old at this point, good move to get the newer model

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those older Encore/Excel models are over 20 years old at this point, good move to get the newer model
Yep, they are old but my Encore pair sounds great. But the grilles cannot be removed so I would have said go for the CB-20.

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