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post #2791 of 52503 Old 03-24-2008, 04:13 PM
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Where did you get that stand and for how much? Would it have enought ventilation for a PS3 and hefty receiver (Onkyo 805?)

In keeping with my budget-friendly lifestyle, that stand was purchased for $250 used off of craigslist. I've found some really nice furniture that way - I find the key is to look for ads from people in nice neighborhoods, oftentimes they just bought some new stuff and just want to get rid of the old stuff and aren't looking to make maximum dollar on the resale. New furniture is SO expensive, used is the way to go. e.g. got a really nice dark wood dining room table set + six chairs for $150 off some young married couple who had just upgraded!

I have no idea what brand it is or where to get it, unfortunately. It's actually a really nice stand and comparable in build quality to $1000-ish stands like BDI or Studiotech stuff (I've checked them out). Real solid wood, no cheap particle board panels, and it has optional inserts for the doors with either glass (what I use) or black speaker-cloth mesh.

The only thing it doesn't have is the fancy a/v-focused extras like cable management and sliding back panels that you get with a BDI or similar stand. The back panel is a single piece of heavy-duty cardboard (not like currogated cardboard from a box, but the thick rigid stuff like what clipboards are sometimes made of). There are two big vertical channel slots cut into the backing to allow cables to flow in and out of the two a/v compartment areas.

Don't know about ventilation but have never had a problem tripping the protection circuits of my older Sony DA555ES and my newer Denon AVR 2105. I've heard the Onkyo's run hot, though, and the 805 is a beast, so if I had something like that I'd probably want to install a couple of fans in the back for ventilation (and maybe switch to the speaker cloth so some air can get in the front).

I think it would also be a tight squeeze, assuming the 805 is a little meatier than the standard AV receiver. My AVR 2105 has about an inch of room side-to-side and just enough room (maybe 2-3 inches in the back) to manage all the cables and plugs in the back. I had thought about trying to find a used Denon 4800 or 4802 (which sometimes go for under $400 on ebay) but it wouldn't fit, since they are longer and a little wider.

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I have the black RC30s, but the rosewood looks like this, but even darker red.

When you say "darker red" do you mean "more saturated red" i.e they are redder than the picture, or "darker" as in it is the same hue of red but darker overall? Sorry if that doesn't make sense! Darker is fine as it would match better, redder is a problem if they look TOO red. Thanks!

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Hey Batpig. I would say the rosenut looks pretty much like the photo above. Although depending on what your monitor shows may differ a bit. Sould go very nice with your console... Personally It is not "redder" than that pic. It is a beautiful finish.

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Man, the rosenut is very nice. What type of black do the RC-10's come in? Is it a glossy piano black? If so, that's what I'll order. If not, I'll order the rosenut.
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no gloss, just black ash finish:

http://www.energy-speakers.com/v2/pr...age.php?id=269

everyone seems to love the look and quality of the rosenut finish.

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Here's the pic from energy's website of the rosenut:



from what I'm gathering this looks to be a pretty accurate representation of the rosenut color, correct?

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Ok, last question about my setup. Energy ESW-V8 or V10? Or another brand with the same price of about 500-700 dollars? I have a pretty average sized room, if not a little on the small side. So I was thinking the 8 inch would be enough? I could buy the Velo DPS-10 for only 314 bucks. But it sounds like the Energy V8 or V10 would be better? I have no way of hearing them for myself in person, so I just gotta trust people's opinion on here. I did a search but still could not really find the answer I'm looking for. Thanks.
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Would the RC-10 blend in with the C-C100 center? Because I can get a pair of RC-10s for the same price as the C-200s right now, so I'm considering buying the RC-10 w/ the C-C100 and the C-R100s (I don't have the budget for the RC center, which is like 600 bucks, or the RC surrounds, which are even more expensive I think)...Suggestions?

Btw, how would the C-100 compare to the C-200 in a small room (12ftx15ftx8ft)? And how would the C-200 compare to the RC-10?

And how would a C-200s + C-C100 + C-R100s system compare to a Monitor Audio Bronze system (B2s + BFXs + Bronze Centre)? Would the Energy system be worth another $200 or so? Thanks.
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You have the exact same problem as I do, rain. But, after some suggestions from these guys in the past couple days, I've decided to order the RC-10's, with the C-C100, and the C-R100's. I'm no too worried about the C-C100. I'm sure it will be fine. It's gonna have to be lol. The LCR is double the price of the C-C100.
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Ok, last question about my setup. Energy ESW-V8 or V10? Or another brand with the same price of about 500-700 dollars? I have a pretty average sized room, if not a little on the small side. So I was thinking the 8 inch would be enough? I could buy the Velo DPS-10 for only 314 bucks. But it sounds like the Energy V8 or V10 would be better? I have no way of hearing them for myself in person, so I just gotta trust people's opinion on here. I did a search but still could not really find the answer I'm looking for. Thanks.

Hey dave, you're really stretching that budget don't you?! lol

I just got the esw-v10. awesome sub. bests some sealed b&w subs in terms of tightness and accuracy. Definitely, the ESW is in another league than the Velo. Much tighter, more, output, bigger extension, nicer! lol
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what I'm gathering this looks to be a pretty accurate representation of the rosenut color, correct?

Yep, that photo is spot on.

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Here's the pic from energy's website of the rosenut:



from what I'm gathering this looks to be a pretty accurate representation of the rosenut color, correct?

i think this is exactly what it looked to me when I opened my boxes at christmas. the thing is that once you feel them with your hands... wow. it gets better. just get the rosenut already! You will never ever regret. Nicest speaker ever. I love to take out the grills while listening to music as they are so beautiful. in fact, beautiful enough that I'm calling audioadvisor tomorrow and if the shipping price is good to canada, then I have a pair for my computer to replace my C-100.

Talking about audioadvisor. Would you trust buying a demo? I speaked to Joe and he said it was people who returned them as you would return an item at futureshop in the first 30 days. There is no way to know in what condition they are. It's hit or miss.
BTW I don't know if I hit bad days but the 3 times I called them they all seemed impatient, as if they couldn't wait to hang up. Is it my french canadian accent? lol. At least it's toll free so I don't feel guilty to call there
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Yes, the previous budget did not last long lol. This is some addicting stuff! I just don't want to skimp on the sub. Way too important to go cheap on, as far as I'm concerned. Plus, I can't pass up on the AA deal for the RC-10's.
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Wow how old/new is that pic? I don't recall the RC-70s having 3 6.5in drivers! Mine have a 5.25" and 2 6.5"
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Thanks batpig, yeah your stand is awesome looking. You read mind mind as the BDI's look great as well but so expensive, maybe at half price I'd be willing.

And yes that last pic is dead on for the color of my RC-30's. The rosenut's look fabulous with the grill's on or off. I have the Cherry's in my main room only because I had bought them before the rosenut's and have the RC-30's and RC-10's in cherry. The finish and look on them is grea as well but with grill's on (which is mandatory now with the little one I give the edge to the rosewood which has the better combo with the black grill.) The straight black ash finish on the RC series isn't nearly as nice of a finish IMO.
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Twisted Dave you are going to love them!

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Wow how old/new is that pic? I don't recall the RC-70s having 3 6.5in drivers! Mine have a 5.25" and 2 6.5"

btw the color of the 2nd speaker from the left is pretty accurate. Contrast of the pic is a little too high though.

Yeah, they definitely don't have that arangement. Probably before they officially went into production.
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Yes, the previous budget did not last long lol. This is some addicting stuff! I just don't want to skimp on the sub. Way too important to go cheap on, as far as I'm concerned. Plus, I can't pass up on the AA deal for the RC-10's.

Yes but if you're getting the RC-10s, the RC-LCR is a must! lol.
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Yes but if you're getting the RC-10s, the RC-LCR is a must! lol.

The sickness never ends!

Truthfully I've been doing fine without one so far (4.1 ). Offer me one at half price or less though and I'll probably jump When I had C-5's and C-3's, I honestly thought it sounded better without the CC1 than with, could be the smaller driver though as I was too cheap to drop money for the CC3 that had the matching driver.
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The sickness never ends!

Truthfully I've been doing fine without one so far (4.1 ). Offer me one at half price or less though and I'll probably jump When I had C-5's and C-3's, I honestly thought it sounded better without the CC1 than with, could be the smaller driver though as I was too cheap to drop money for the CC3 that had the matching driver.

Isn't the price on AA good enough for you yet? lol



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Wow how old/new is that pic? I don't recall the RC-70s having 3 6.5in drivers! Mine have a 5.25" and 2 6.5"

I got it from a googe image search, it comes from this link:

http://shows.soundstagelive.com/show...jan07_01.shtml

Apparently these are pics of RC prototypes at CES from Jan 2005. That is the picture that really concerned me as they look pretty red and that would stick out against the more espresso-ish brown tones. We've got a few different woods mixed together so as long as it isn't super-red like that pic it should blend in nicely.

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We've got a few different woods mixed together so as long as it isn't super-red like that pic it should blend in nicely.

Definitely not. Those look very red. But with a flash it happens often. Look at mine when I took some pics:
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...t=37165&page=3

I wouldn't even post one of them as color reference
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I see, thanks. In pic #3 they have that red look, not so much in pic #2 where they look more like the burnished brown I'm imagining. Thanks again..

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Yes but if you're getting the RC-10s, the RC-LCR is a must! lol.

Oh no, no, no. Don't say that! The C-C100 is fine! Don't make me spend that kinda money lol
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Ok, last question about my setup. Energy ESW-V8 or V10? Or another brand with the same price of about 500-700 dollars? I have a pretty average sized room, if not a little on the small side. So I was thinking the 8 inch would be enough? I could buy the Velo DPS-10 for only 314 bucks. But it sounds like the Energy V8 or V10 would be better? I have no way of hearing them for myself in person, so I just gotta trust people's opinion on here. I did a search but still could not really find the answer I'm looking for. Thanks.

Are you in Canada? If so, you'd be a sucker for not getting the SVS PB10 if you're got a $500 budget for sub.

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Oh no, no, no. Don't say that! The C-C100 is fine! Don't make me spend that kinda money lol

Well stay with the C-200 then! The RCs are much more refined speakers.
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Do I really need the RC LCR with the 10's? Or will the C-C100 be ok?
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Do I really need the RC LCR with the 10's? Or will the C-C100 be ok?

Usually you'll want your 3 front channels to be tone-matched for better effect transitions. I'll just tell you that right now, because of space constraints, I have 2 RC-70 as mains and a Csi3 from PolkAudio. I'm having a really hard time in movies or when using PLII effect.
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Do I really need the RC LCR with the 10's? Or will the C-C100 be ok?


If the RC LCR is too much $$$, you could go with the RC mini centre. It will match the RC10's. the RC mini centre has been as low as $150 CDN

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The mini center is ok huh? I'll check it out. Thanks.
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The mini center is ok huh? I'll check it out. Thanks.

The RC mini is not as good as the RC LCR, which is a truly outstanding centre

But, the RC mini centre will match the RC 10's. I have RC 10's as fronts along with the RC mini centre. I just couldn't bring myself to layout $500-600 or more for the RC LCR

Throughout this thread there is plenty of talk of the RC mini, take a look.

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