Dr_Mark, thank you for the information. You really put a lot of effort in listening to the DALI's. I have something to add, ofcourse (
I think we must never forget that we are talking about the potential
of speakers when we talk about them. The circumstances are important, and these are:
1. amplifier/quality of the source
2. room/roomacoustics / dsp
3. listening triangle, speaker placement.
In general: place a small speaker in a big room: bad sound. The other way around: idem ditto. And a good speaker in a acoustic not treated room will never will never come to it's full potential. I see lots of expensive speakers in bad rooms - and this is such a waste.
Ehm, I think that DALI made a big mistake with the H800mk2.
H800mk2 need a very good amp (this is most times not the problem and lots of speakers do) and the H800mk2 should only be in a big(ger) room and despite the technical brochure: they should stay away from walls at least a meter, the distance between the speakers should be at least 2 meters, but preferably 3 meter - no more - and the room should be acoustic improved. At least the floor, the first wall and the side walls.
If the circumstances for the H800mk2 are right, then they will not sound harsh at all (depending on the music ofcourse, harsh music will sound harsh), there will be perfect balanced bass that has much more power then the E6 and the imaging is very good - and I agree with dr_mark: much better then most speakers up to this price-class. The level of details is amazing and the H800mk2 do not miss a single detail compared to the E6.
So I guess the mistake DALI made with the H800mk2 is that they expected people who are willing to spend lots of money on speakers, are also willing to put lots of effort in the circumstances and let's face it: most people don't do that. It's really difficult to make the H800mk2's sing
It seems that the E6 is more forgiving considering the circumstances. Very smart of Dali.
I can see that you are really into the Epicons and I admire your enthusiasm. And I understand that DALI really want to sell the Epicons to current Helicon owners also - and if the E8 outplays the H800mk2 I am into the E's also
- but it is impossible to compare the E6 with the H800mk2 in the same room. People should never buy the E6 instead of the H800mk2 just because it is a better speaker. They should consider:
- R8, H800mk2, E8 (big room, acoustics)
- R6, H400mk2, E6 (smaller room, acoustics)
- and so on.