Originally Posted by sydneybird
Can anyone tell me the difference between the TW1 and TW1a specification-wise and/or cosmetic? My TW shipping box just says Time Windows without any model number; originally purchased by me in 1983. My TW's have the two plastic strips in the back holding the foam in place forming a gap between the strips where you can see the paperboard cylinder back. I think I remember that TW1a's as having the foam meet in the back. Maybe the TW back is made from a paper cylinder concrete form?
Has anyone had a chance to compare the TimeWindow (or TimeFrame for that matter) with any of the Ohm Walsh speakers? I would love to know what Steve has to say comparing the two. I am so tempted to get a pair of Walsh's to compare to see if the Walsh's are really superior or just different.
From my memory,
I recall the TW-1a's to be the first to have the solid oak tops and bottoms. I think the tops/bottoms of the original 1's had a high density partical board core with veneers. Both were the same physical size. I seem to remember the original 1's had a foam surround but the 1a's had a fabric "sock" that was prone to snagging a lot. There may have been an overlap period though as I also have a 1a with foam. I'm going from memory from the early 80's and I'm sure there are some out there with more definitive information.
Back in the day, I managed a stereo store in the Syracuse, NY area. We had Ohm F's as well as some B&W's and other high-end sweethearts. The B&W's were the ones with the funky feet and stepped back grill. They looked like little robots or something. LOL! I forget the model. Nothing like getting to play these honeys with Threshold and Bryston amps, Linn TT's and all sorts of goodies.
They call that work. hahaha!
My favorite setup was the B&W's on the Bryston 3B. (Guess now I know why I ended up with a set of Wharfedales. LOL!) Anyway, everything was fine until a set of Time Windows came in. At $800 a set, they went rignt into the high-end room! I didn't actually pay them much attention until my coworker hooked them up and started messing with positions in the room and such. One day he yells out the sound room door for me to get in there right away! "Sit here and close your eyes" he says pointing to a chair.
The TW's were sitting out from the walls, about 4 feet from the back wall (which was floor to ceiling drapery) and about the same from the side walls. They were spaced about 8 feet apart. Well, I don't remember what he put on the TT but what I do remember is about falling off that chair when this amazing soundstage was opened up in front of me!
It was if the musicians had suddenly stepped into the room and taken up positions all around me! I could clearly hear where they were positioned and pick up subtle things they were doing: The skritch of fingers sliding on strings over there, the singers breaths in front of me, the drummer's kit behind and so on. It was like hearing a recording all over again! I caught myself turning my head towards the sounds!
Then we started to switch things around and the TW's became our "reference" speakers. Quite frankly, there was NOTHING in that room that would produce the sound and especially the imaging the TW's would. It was actually a little disheartening to find that all these very high priced speakers weren't cutting it! Even my beloved B&W's sounded like boxes with speakers in them. When you were in the sweet spot of the TW's they would disappear.
One day a little gray box came in from headquarters. Adcom GFA-1 it said. This little box was going to produce 200 watts a channel???? Yeah, right
Well, this thing made the TW's even better! The Ohms would suck up every watt but still, they didn't compare. The little amp seemed to just push the TW's to an even higher plateau!
Again, this is all from long ago memory. But I still remember clearly though how amazed and impressed I was by the TW's! I didn't hear anything like them until I heard a set of Polk's in the mid 80's. These were the ones with the interconnection between the speakers. In my mind though, it was an electronic trick. The TW's did it without fancy wiring and cost half as much.
So now, I have a set of 1a's and 3's. I have an Adcom 555ll amp and am enjoying the sound I fell in love with years ago. Yeah, some nostalgia for you all, but still, the TW's never fail to impress. Even my kids are in awe at what these 20+ year old speakers can do.
Synopsis: Skip the Ohms. You'll have to replace the crappy foam surrounds on their woofers anyway. LOL!