I have the Vantage and I really like them alot. The sound is smooth and easy to listen too. I have read that they are not good for Rock and only Jazz, thats BS. These things rock. I have Axiom M80's and Dynaudio speakers, and I listen to the ML the most. If you look on Fry's electronics web page they have the Vantage for 1100.00 ea. They are no longer going to carry them and marked them down. I bought mine from them. Dont think you will be unhappy with the speakers. I found reading these forums just confuses people and the info is not that great, because of to many opinons. I have earn to weed through most of the opinions and go with what I like. Most folks like what sounds good to them, but push there choice on others which doesnt help.