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I was pretty astonished how deep the T65s were. Even if they are front ported how far do you keep them from the walls?
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I was pretty astonished how deep the T65s were. Even if they are front ported how far do you keep them from the walls?

If I could put them right up against the wall, I would, but the speaker cable runs there. Pretty much within an inch or so from the back wall and a couple feet from the side walls. They are deep, but they sound soooo good. Sarah McLaughlin's "Into The Fire" is one that plays great on these

My biggest problem is that they are so tall. They are 1/2" taller than the 6T's. I wish I could make a T65 in a T55 cabinet with 3 woofers that was a little deeper than the T65 (to make up for the difference in enclosure volume and maintain the bass and efficiency).
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My biggest problem is that they are so tall. They are 1/2" taller than the 6T's. I wish I could make a T65 in a T55 cabinet with 3 woofers that was a little deeper than the T65 (to make up for the volume and maitain the bass and efficiency.

Half an inch isn't that much. I'd always thought speakers should be given more room from the wall not only for the bass but for the mids. I've always had rear ported speakers to this point and even with the B25s i'd want to at least keep them more than a foot from the back walls.
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I have a small living room and I felt the T45s were plenty when I auditioned them. I will probably get a SVS or something sub when we buy a house in the next year or so, but that's a ways off.

Right now, I have JBL E100s (Dual 10"). They are monsters and absolutely must be about a foot out from the wall if you don't want so much boom it gives you a headache...... Don't even think about putting them within sight of a corner

They sounded good in my last apartment which had a bigger living room and a more open floor plan. The midrange is a little dead but it's not a huge problem if you listen to mostly rock like I do. Jazz piano is not the E100's strong suite however......

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I have another question for all of you. What do people here think of the maple finish on the image series? I like them without the grills on and they would go in my living room and with the rest of setup ok. I've never seen them with the grills on however and with kids, the grills will probably live predominantly on. Also, I'm worried about the long-term look of them. If I do end up keeping these for a long time (which I hope I do), I don't want them to look "dated" after a while. The black seems like a safer choice.....

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The T55's I auditioned were in Maple with the grills on and I thought they looked great. I don't think long-term they will look "dated" and they should always sound great! I went with black since I am upgrading things a few at a time and my current set up is all black and I plan on Berkline black leather seating some year......
If you think you may not like the maple over time, consider that the black speakers are less noticable when watching movies in a darkened room.

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i thought the maples look way better w/o their grille. If i was forced to leave the grilles on, i would've probably went for the black.
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Half an inch isn't that much. I'd always thought speakers should be given more room from the wall not only for the bass but for the mids. I've always had rear ported speakers to this point and even with the B25s i'd want to at least keep them more than a foot from the back walls.

The front of the speakers are more than a foot away from the back walls because the speakers are 20" deep. So just by their own size (depth) they are almost 2 feet away from the back walls. Mine are also toed in.

I have black models since in my home theatre it's better that way because everything is black anyhow.
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My C60 arrived today (my wife did not buy that it was a 15 yr Anniversary gift ), T65s should be here tomorrow.
Might have to send my wife to the spa while I sit at home all alone.......

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Sounds awesome. Be sure to come back and tell us how the T65's are. I'm sorta split on getting T55 or the T65. The T65's three drivers along the face seems irresistable but i can't justify the higher price with my relatively small room. If anyone has opinions on which tower to get, i'd like to hear them. Thanks
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Sounds awesome. Be sure to come back and tell us how the T65's are. I'm sorta split on getting T55 or the T65. The T65's three drivers along the face seems irresistable but i can't justify the higher price with my relatively small room. If anyone has opinions on which tower to get, i'd like to hear them. Thanks

I ended up getting T55s last year. The T65s were tempting, but the T55s price felt better to my wallet and they fill my 3000 ft^3 room very well. I am very happy with the decision and have no regrets.
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Yeah, I was lucky and found a set of used T65's, C60's, S50's and B25's and bought the whole set and sold the B25's. The upgrade from the 6T's and 9C etc was quite good.
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I have moved to an apartment and I regretably have to sell my Image set up. I hope I'm not stepping on any rules but I have a 9C center speaker and a pair of 10S for sale on Audiogon. Please check them out from kelecoleman. I would not sell them had I not moved to another state and into an apartment. I kept my 6T. The low and mid bass is full at low volume making them well suited to lower level listening. My good fortune; I have no neighbors on either side so I have been able to listen to movies at a reasonable level. My components are a NAD T753 and Elite 79AVi.
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So you liked the S50's over the B25's? I have been trying to decide on these thinking the B25's with the same 6 1/2" and 1" as the T65/C60 would blend in better than the 5 1/4" in the S50. I would like to know your thoughts.

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So you liked the S50's over the B25's? I have been trying to decide on these thinking the B25's with the same 6 1/2" and 1" as the T65/C60 would blend in better than the 5 1/4" in the S50. I would like to know your thoughts.

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I was worried about that too. For surround purposes, the S50's are awesome. The drivers are smaller, but they are so nice with their dipole configuration. I would choose them over B25's for sure, no question. Playing movies and multi-channel audio like DVD-Audio, SACD's and CD's using DPL II, the PSB S50's shine in a way the 2B's and B25's simply could not. The sound feels like it's coming from the middle of the room. The S50's sound better in this room than the Axiom QS8's I had previously, and I think a good deal of the reason why is because now all my speakers are very well matched. I know what you mean about the driver sizes, but it's ok. I think it would be awesome to make a custom S60 with the 6.5" drivers, but the S50's are fine as is.
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Do you guys think this is a good deal? A pair of T65 and a C40 for $900. All new of course.
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Do you guys think this is a good deal? A pair of T65 and a C40 for $900. All new of course.

Damn, that's a smoking deal. Where, how?

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Well I have spent a few days now with the T65s and I am very pleased. I tried to throw a real mix at them from Norah Jones to the new Rush cd to Nickelback to my Fouplay cds. Having used the smaller 500s with a sub it took a little while to get used the bass level from just the T65s (at first I found I preferred the sub in the mix) but with a little position tweaking and a few DIY acoustic panels I am quite satisfied. The midrange and vocals (male or female) are simply superb, I was concerned about a few comments of the 6 1/2s sounding a little muddy compared to the T45s 5 1/4s. My wife kept commentening on how lifelike everything sounded. The dynamic range for movies seems to be stronger as well, dialogue is much richer. I highly recommend the T65s.
My vinyl collection is up next, I am feeling like I am coming down with somehting, I hear an NAD 542 calling my name, must resist.....

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Just got a couple T1 Alpha's on ebay, still new in the box. Haven't seen much discussion on them here and just wondered if anyone has heard them or own them. For $300, I did a little research and decided to bid on them and was able to bring them in with the initial bid.
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and I'm about ready for new system. Not so much an "upgrade", just new stuff.

I'm leaning towards (99.9% sure) AV123 x-cs across the front, and would rather not have large bookshelves as rears. Looking for sealed design so I can mount right up to wall..... how do you think the Alpha LR1s would work as rears??? And I have a hard time getting to my local dealer - what is the MSRP????


I realize that this a month late but if you click on any of the Product Specs link it will show MSRP on the bottom of that page.

cheers.

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I have to say that I love my new PSB Image speakers very much. The more I listen the more I like them. My "new" used Marantz SR 14EX receiver really works awesome with these T65's. Lot's of slam in the low bass, great bass and treble clarity and so much clean detail. I can really hear alot of real definitive sound that makes the voices and music so real with lot's of ambience. Very awesome combination. If anybody is interested in maxing out their sound quality, look for a Marantz SR 18U, 18EX or 14EX. I know there is no DPL II and for more than 5.1 with the 18EX and 14EX you need outboard amps (18U is 5.1 only), but man does the sound quality ever rock. Wow.
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I have moved to an apartment and I regretably have to sell my Image set up. I hope I'm not stepping on any rules but I have a 9C center speaker and a pair of 10S for sale on Audiogon. Please check them out from kelecoleman. I would not sell them had I not moved to another state and into an apartment. I kept my 6T. The low and mid bass is full at low volume making them well suited to lower level listening. My good fortune; I have no neighbors on either side so I have been able to listen to movies at a reasonable level. My components are a NAD T753 and Elite 79AVi.

Regrettably, I also have to sell my 9C center (PM me if interested in local pickup), although for a different reason. The PSB T65 did not match the 9C the way I hoped they would. I'm hoping to get the c60 to replace in the near future

If you kept your 6T, I dont see any reason why you cant keep the 9c also. I have a complete 9c, t65, 2b setup in my bedroom that is only 10x10 ft.
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I am noticing boomy vocals on the sound of movie/film on dvd's. Not sure if it's the receiver. I use NITE mode and put the centre channel to +2 dB because a family member is hard of hearing. Anybody else notice boomy vocals on 'some' dvd's? I have the T65 fronts C60 centre and S50 rear surrounds.
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The more I listen the more I like my T65s. I have not spent much time with DVD-A, I am falling back in love with my vinyl and cd collection. I will try some DVDs this week and listen for "boomyness" with the dynamic range restricted. I did get a tip that placing an 18x18 floor tile on the floor (more often used when you have plywood floors under the carpet pad) and then placing the speakers with carpet spikes on the tile will tighten up the bass. Not sure if this will help when it is only on certain DVDs. Heck for $5 a tile at Home Depot I am going to try it just to see what it does.

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I am noticing boomy vocals on sound dvd's. Not sure if it's the receiver. I use NITE mode and put the centre channel to +2 dB because a family member is hard of hearing. Anybody else notice boomy vocals on 'some' dvd's? I have the T65 fronts C60 centre and S50 rear surrounds.

Could be from placing your speakers too close to the wall. Try experimenting by first moving the speaker completely into the room then gradually closer to the wall.
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Yeah you may have it to close to the wall. The rear of the speaker can be up against the wall, but you want to check that the sides are clear because the bass ports are on the front.

Another thing you could try is plug up the of the holes on the port baffles with some foam. That could tighten up the bass but may result in lower bass extension.
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I will try to move them away from the wall a bit more, but the centre channel speaker, the one with the dialouge/vocals is quite a ways away from the wall already. I tried plugging up the ports on my 6T's and didn't find it sound any better, and was maybe worse. The woofers are designed to worked in a ported enclosure, so the drivers Q won't be ideal for a sealed speaker. You're not getting the most of your speakers if you try to make them sealed by stuffing socks in the ports.
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what receivers are you guys pairing your T65s to? When i moved from my onkyo receiver to a nad, everything seemed to tighten up and the speakers became more articulate.
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I currently use a Yamaha RX-V2095 as a pre into an Outlaw Audio 770 amp. This summer I will replace the 2095, looking at an Outlaw 990. I have considerd the NAD T763. Which NAD are you using aboroth00?

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I currently use a Yamaha RX-V2095 as a pre into an Outlaw Audio 770 amp. This summer I will replace the 2095, looking at an Outlaw 990. I have considerd the NAD T763. Which NAD are you using aboroth00?


The 990 doesn't appear to be offering the next gen audio codecs (Dolby TruHD, DTS-HD)...just wondering if that is a big consideration with you? I'm sure it's feature filled nonetheless but to me that would be a big turn off.
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