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A little more information would be useful. Are you also using a sub? If yes, what is the crossover setting? Did you run the Audyssey calibration? If yes, do you have Dynamic EQ turned on? And is Dynamic Volume turned off? What about placement? A picture of your listening room would be helpful.

And by the way, bi-amping provides little or no contribution to the overall sound quality. Given that you have spare amps to use, it doesn't detract from the sound, but it is providing little or no added value. And I don't thing the 4000 is underpowered, and if you spend the additional money on external amps, I don't think that would be the immediate solution you are looking for. I suspect there is something related to where the speakers are positioned that is influencing your sound. Ideally, you would have a measurement system that would allow you to measure in-room response.
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The PSB Alpha was the very first set of speakers I ever owned (@ $200 for the pair) and basically started me on the path down 2 channel audio and expanded to Home Theatre. I remember when I had those AWESOME little speakers, I ended up purchasing a PSB 100C center channel to go with them a few years later. Not sure if they had the same drivers or tweeter but I do remember it blended very well with the Alphas.


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I found one, PSB 100C for around $100. Thoughts?

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Question New member looking for speaker suggestions

I am upgrading my home theater to a 7.1 system, and am looking for 2 pairs of surround sound speaker (side and rear) to go with my following PSB Image speakers:-

PSB Image T5;
PSB Image C5;
PSB SUB 5I;
Can anyone please suggest which PSB speakers work well with the Image speakers above and are good enough for movies? Thanks!
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PSB Image B4 $199 a pair they are discontinued so they might sell out soon.

Here is a direct link to the Audioadvisor page for them

http://www.audioadvisor.com/PSB-Imag.../#.U7ocKkDRN_Y
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I have a brand new in the box never opened image b6. Pm me if interested
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PSB Image B4 $199 a pair they are discontinued so they might sell out soon.

Here is a direct link to the Audioadvisor page for them

http://www.audioadvisor.com/PSB-Imag.../#.U7ocKkDRN_Y
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I have a brand new in the box never opened image b6. Pm me if interested
Thanks for the suggestion and offer.
Instead of buying 4 surround sound speakers, does it make sense to buy another pair of PSB T5 towers for now to make it 5.1, and add a pair of reference level towers for future 7.1 upgrades, then move the 4 T5s for surround sound?
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I have been searching to replace my Onkyo HT setup for a while now. Heard the B&W towers, bookshelves and the M1 home theatre package. Bought some Martinlogan bookshelves but ended up returning them. The highs were just too much for my taste. Heard the sonus faber stuff..and liked the sound but not the price.

Then I got a chance to hear the PSB Imagine X1T and really liked them. Turns out the image line is being discontinued, so I ended up ordering those instead.

Got a pair of T5, a pair of B4, and the C4 center channel for $830 new! Those normally retail for $1630.

#excited . Should be here thursday. Ordered some Sewell speaker wires.

I should probably get a better amp for these speakers. I think the onkyo puts out 100watts at 8 ohms. Or so it says. any suggestions?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-vv8aItn...o-HT-S760.html
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Thanks for the suggestion and offer.
Instead of buying 4 surround sound speakers, does it make sense to buy another pair of PSB T5 towers for now to make it 5.1, and add a pair of reference level towers for future 7.1 upgrades, then move the 4 T5s for surround sound?
It depends on your usage I reckon. If your dominant usage is movies, I personally think T5's as surrounds/rears is overcooking it, given the amount and type of content that is generally present in these channels. For movies, there would be better value for you in the Image B4's (say) as surrounds/rears and putting the difference towards a second closely matched sub. The B4's are a surprisingly capable little speaker.

On the other hand, if your passion is multichannel music where an excellent timbre match is more important and the surround channels are quite active, the T5's could make some sense because they're identical to your mains. The trouble is though, that you loose the advantage of a perfect timbre match if you then go for different/reference front towers in the future. You would at least need to go for Imagine X2T's, or ideally Image T6's (if you can find a pair) to maintain the excellent timbre match required for M/C music.

Hope that helps in your decision.
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I have been searching to replace my Onkyo HT setup for a while now. Heard the B&W towers, bookshelves and the M1 home theatre package. Bought some Martinlogan bookshelves but ended up returning them. The highs were just too much for my taste. Heard the sonus faber stuff..and liked the sound but not the price.

Then I got a chance to hear the PSB Imagine X1T and really liked them. Turns out the image line is being discontinued, so I ended up ordering those instead.

Got a pair of T5, a pair of B4, and the C4 center channel for $830 new! Those normally retail for $1630.

#excited . Should be here thursday. Ordered some Sewell speaker wires.

I should probably get a better amp for these speakers. I think the onkyo puts out 100watts at 8 ohms. Or so it says. any suggestions?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-vv8aItn...o-HT-S760.html
Congratulations Justin! Thanks for posting your comparisons and welcome to impending PSB ownership.

A couple of comments...

Is it too late to swap out the C4 for a C5 or XC? These are a larger centre (5.25" woofers) and a slightly better match for the T5's. The C4 will do a good job though if it can't be managed.

Your Onkyo will be fine with the PSB's and I'd hold fire on replacing it for a bit. You'll get way more improvement in your system by upgrading the HTiB sub. Take a look at the offerings from respected ID brands like SVS, Rythmik Audio and Hsu Research.
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How would one rate Image S5 as surrounds? They are retailing for $399.


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I have been searching to replace my Onkyo HT setup for a while now. Heard the B&W towers, bookshelves and the M1 home theatre package. Bought some Martinlogan bookshelves but ended up returning them. The highs were just too much for my taste. Heard the sonus faber stuff..and liked the sound but not the price.

Then I got a chance to hear the PSB Imagine X1T and really liked them. Turns out the image line is being discontinued, so I ended up ordering those instead.

Got a pair of T5, a pair of B4, and the C4 center channel for $830 new! Those normally retail for $1630.

#excited . Should be here thursday. Ordered some Sewell speaker wires.

I should probably get a better amp for these speakers. I think the onkyo puts out 100watts at 8 ohms. Or so it says. any suggestions?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-vv8aItn...o-HT-S760.html
Hi,
I would agree with the C5 suggestion.
If you are in Canada, 2001 Audio and Video is having promotion, also you might want to check out Crutchfield.ca.
Good luck!
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It depends on your usage I reckon. If your dominant usage is movies, I personally think T5's as surrounds/rears is overcooking it, given the amount and type of content that is generally present in these channels. For movies, there would be better value for you in the Image B4's (say) as surrounds/rears and putting the difference towards a second closely matched sub. The B4's are a surprisingly capable little speaker.

On the other hand, if your passion is multichannel music where an excellent timbre match is more important and the surround channels are quite active, the T5's could make some sense because they're identical to your mains. The trouble is though, that you loose the advantage of a perfect timbre match if you then go for different/reference front towers in the future. You would at least need to go for Imagine X2T's, or ideally Image T6's (if you can find a pair) to maintain the excellent timbre match required for M/C music.

Hope that helps in your decision.
Hi GIEGAR,

That helps a lot!
I felt lucky that I am going down the right path... , however, I just ordered two pair of B6 from Crutchfield.ca, as they are on promotion and within my budget. I hope they will do match well to my existing speakers.
I have a Yamaha RXA280, would that be capable enough for my below 7.1 system speakers below?
PSB T5 x2
PSB C5 x1
PSB B6 x4
PSB Sub 5i

Btw, are you suggesting me to upgrade my Sub or add another Sub for the improvement? if so, what Sub would you recommend, and will work better with the speakers I already have?

Many thanks!

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Congratulations Justin! Thanks for posting your comparisons and welcome to impending PSB ownership.

A couple of comments...

Is it too late to swap out the C4 for a C5 or XC? These are a larger centre (5.25" woofers) and a slightly better match for the T5's. The C4 will do a good job though if it can't be managed.

Your Onkyo will be fine with the PSB's and I'd hold fire on replacing it for a bit. You'll get way more improvement in your system by upgrading the HTiB sub. Take a look at the offerings from respected ID brands like SVS, Rythmik Audio and Hsu Research.
Thank you for the response.

I went with the C4 mainly because of the cabinet size. Since it's only 5.25" high, I can avoid mounting my tv for now. I built a small 3" riser for the tv. C5 is over 7.25".

Being on sale for $150 also helped with the decision. Imagine XC is $400 currently.

The odd thing is my current speakers all have the same driver size.
fronts are dual 5.25"...same as T5
center is dual 4"...same as C4
rear is single 4" ...same as B4.

I am probably going to keep the sub low, or take it out since it's an apartment.
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Hi GIEGAR,

That helps a lot!
I felt lucky that I am going down the right path... , however, I just ordered two pair of B6 from Crutchfield.ca, as they are on promotion and within my budget. I hope they will do match well to my existing speakers.
I have a Yamaha RXA280, would that be capable enough for my below 7.1 system speakers below?
PSB T5 x2
PSB C5 x1
PSB B6 x4
PSB Sub 5i

Btw, are you suggesting me to upgrade my Sub or add another Sub for the improvement? if so, what Sub would you recommend, and will work better with the speakers I already have?

Many thanks!

Bing
I replaced my old Subsonic 5 with a Rythmik LV-12R (an internet brand) and the difference is incredible. There are much better subs for the same price as PSB from Rythmik, SVS, HSU, and Outlaw. I would serioulsy recommend you going that route. Check out my library .
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My onkyo specs say
170 watts × 2 at 4 Ω
115 watts × 2 at 8 Ω

How many watts do you think it's pushing out at 6 ohms on all 5 channels?

The Image t5 is rated for 175w program and the center and surrounds are rated for 80w, all at 6 ohms.
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B4 or B6 as presence?

Have a RX2030, yamaha that is

Upgrading from 5.2 to 9.2 just now. Bought one set PSB image b6 and one set image b4.

Which set should I use as presence?
They will be on the wall above my PSB imagine t6.
(And my lovely PSB imagine center in between, just under the pj screen)

And - which should I use as rear surrounds?
They will be on the back wall, behind me, above my PSB imagine MINI which resides on a four feet stand.

Thanks!
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