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post #5641 of 6141 Old 08-03-2014, 05:53 AM
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I just took the plunge and bought a pair of Imagine T speakers. They are a significant upgrade from the Wharfedale Diamond 10.5s I have and will be selling. I was driving the Wharfedales with a Yamaha A-S500. I'm thinking I need to eventually upgrade my integrated amp. NAD is a possibility, but I've read there may be some quality control issues with that brand. Cambridge is another possibility, but the ultimate determining factor will be my budget around $1000, less if possible.

BTW, I'm using these almost exclusively for music. I also have a sub that I can use with them if absolutely necessary. I play about 70% CDs and 30% vinyl.

I'd be interested in what others are using to drive their PSBs, especially the Imagine Ts.
When I had my Imagine Bs set up in the living room (before kids), I used an NAD T747 AV receiver to drive them. This would be a perfect cheap solution. The video processing on the unit sucks but the audio
is exceptional so if you're only using it for music, it would be perfect.
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My Imagine B speakers are currently being driven by an Integra DTR 6.4 (from 2004), in a 2 channel configuration (I moved the Integra to the living room in January 2012 when I inserted my Yamaha RX-A1000 AVR into the home cinema). For its intended use, my living room setup is fine. The PSB/Integra combination works well in Pure Audio mode (no processing) for music, while as a 2.0 movie-watching setup, it does an excellent job at recreating my circa 2001 setup of a 2.0 speaker/AVR combo (at the time, a Denon AVR-1600/Celestion DL6s), with DVD/BD/HD DVD/cable box playback via component analogue video into the Integra and out to the 32" Sony Trinitron SDTV (from 2001). My wife offers no resistance to my upgrades in the home cinema room, but won't consider changing the living room TV unless it stops working. I have no issues with that, as the TV has a nice little 16x9 "cheat" function for BD/HD DVD/anamorphic DVDs for casual viewing.

The beauty of the PSBs is they will outlive most of the other gear (eventually, the TV will change, the AVR will change, the cable box will change and so on, but the PSBs will continue to provide audio enjoyment for years to come--I typically keep speakers 15-20 years and see no reason to change that "policy").
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I have a chance to buy a pair of Image T4's for $140 or less. Should I go for it? ....ummm...hello? Is this mic on? Lol

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I just took the plunge and bought a pair of Imagine T speakers. They are a significant upgrade from the Wharfedale Diamond 10.5s I have and will be selling. I was driving the Wharfedales with a Yamaha A-S500. I'm thinking I need to eventually upgrade my integrated amp. NAD is a possibility, but I've read there may be some quality control issues with that brand. Cambridge is another possibility, but the ultimate determining factor will be my budget around $1000, less if possible.

BTW, I'm using these almost exclusively for music. I also have a sub that I can use with them if absolutely necessary. I play about 70% CDs and 30% vinyl.

I'd be interested in what others are using to drive their PSBs, especially the Imagine Ts.

I have driven my PSB speakers with NAD / Denon / Anthem / HK / Adcom / Yamaha. My current NAD M15/M25 is fantastic. I also remember the NAD 218 being extremely good. No problems with NAD. I have had problems with Anthem processors but good fortune Anthem amps. I also run my Goldenears with NAD T163 / Anthem amp and it is a very good combo.

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So they don't make the C5 and T6 any more? Crutchfield has the 1 step down but I'd want their biggest since I am already spoiled with big sound. The dark wood style would match my cabinet too. I was looking to step away from the brightness of the Klipsch and I loved the look of these. But it seems I can't get them any where.

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What is "big sound"?
Generally a big soundstage. Meaning the tower woofers have to be a decent size, and the tweeter has to be a good quality one. The more drivers on the tower the more pressurized the room so therefore more sound. I describe it as a "presence" to the soundtrack. IE the music soundtrack sounds fuller, richer, clearer.

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In my experience, you can achieve the same sound with a set of quality bookshelf speakers and one or more good subs. PSB bookshelf speakers use the same tweeters and mid-range drivers as the tower speakers in the same line.
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In my experience, you can achieve the same sound with a set of quality bookshelf speakers and one or more good subs. PSB bookshelf speakers use the same tweeters and mid-range drivers as the tower speakers in the same line.
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I prefer floorstanders for looks and also the more woofers the better that's my opinion you can disagree but you won't change my opinion on that.

I take it they don't make the T6 and C5 any more? What is the equivalent that I can get currently?

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Hi. Can anyone recommend a stand for putting up the b4 as surrounds?
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Just ordered my new speakers. I'm replacing my MKsound S-125 and S-85 with the Imagine T2, Imagine C, and Imagine Mini. Should have them early next week.

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A little more information would be useful. Are you also using a sub? If yes, what is the crossover setting? Did you run the Audyssey calibration? If yes, do you have Dynamic EQ turned on? And is Dynamic Volume turned off? What about placement? A picture of your listening room would be helpful.

And by the way, bi-amping provides little or no contribution to the overall sound quality. Given that you have spare amps to use, it doesn't detract from the sound, but it is providing little or no added value. And I don't thing the 4000 is underpowered, and if you spend the additional money on external amps, I don't think that would be the immediate solution you are looking for. I suspect there is something related to where the speakers are positioned that is influencing your sound. Ideally, you would have a measurement system that would allow you to measure in-room response.
I just purchased a denon avr-x2000 and psb t5 towers. I was having the same problem with low power from the receiver. Figured out there is a source level for each input, set to 0 as stock. Turned the source level up and it solved the low volume issue, for the most part. Much better but still doesn't seem to be overly powerful. Hope this helps.
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I just purchased a denon avr-x2000 and psb t5 towers. I was having the same problem with low power from the receiver. Figured out there is a source level for each input, set to 0 as stock. Turned the source level up and it solved the low volume issue, for the most part. Much better but still doesn't seem to be overly powerful. Hope this helps.
I also have them bi-amped, tried them with and without. Not a huge difference, especially in loudness, but does seem to sound a little cleaner with very slightly improved bass response and slightly smoother highs
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There was a slight hitch in my order for the Imagine speakers.


I wanted walnut, which is being discontinued. Once the stock on hand at PSB is exhausted, you won't be able to get that finish any more.


I had to get the Imagine C from an online dealer that had stock to complete my set.

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1 Year update!

Alright folks. Havent been on these forums in months, but wanted to give you all an update. I bought the B5/C4 combo in July 2013. All I can say is HOLY SH** these things are just awesome! I have been listening to a lot of music now, even though they were bought for movies and TV. With my childs "Frozen" blu-ray (ok....I like it too!) the music just comes to life! Simply mind-blowing music. I have also listened to Above & Beyonds Accoustic CD (even if you dont like trance music, this is all set to an orchestra and will blow your mind-hole) and all I can say is wow. Just wow. I do not regret buying these speakers, even though some said I should have bought the B6/C5's. The treble is rich, the bass is ok (I have a nice sub, so who cares) and the highs are clear and precise, without being "ear-bleeding" harsh even at high volume. They are also driven by my Yamaha receiver with no issues.

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That's why I like PSB. They don't make great HT speakers or a great music only speakers. They make excellent neutral and versatile speakers that can be used for either HT or music only applications.
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What exactly is the difference between a HT speaker and a music only speaker? Does the speaker know how it is being used?
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What exactly is the difference between a HT speaker and a music only speaker? Does the speaker know how it is being used?
To me a good speaker is a good speaker that should be able to perform both HT and music only applications equally well. All too often, I've seen speakers and their manufactureres being classified by audiophiles as being good at one application but not the other. This kind of classification is just wrong.
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Hi guys

Can you please share your feedback on image B4. I recently bought T6, C5 and S5. I am yet to setup the surrounds and was thinking of sticking with 5.1 (yet to buy woofer). I have x4000 and was just wondering if I should go ahead and buy B4 since the series is being discontinued. They are available for $179 a pair on Crutchfield. Was wondering if they are decent for the side surround or rear surround or may be I can get something besides PSB. Wonder how good are they for the 7.1 setup.
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I just took the plunge and bought a pair of Imagine T speakers.... I'm using these almost exclusively for music. I also have a sub that I can use with them if absolutely necessary. I play about 70% CDs and 30% vinyl.

I'd be interested in what others are using to drive their PSBs, especially the Imagine Ts.
Hey guys, here's an update to the above. I went with the Parasound New Classic 2100 preamp and the Parasound Halo A23 amp. Neither is fully burned in, but so far I'm pleased with the sound I'm getting.

Thanks to all who replied. I really appreciated everyone's input.
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Can you please share your feedback on image B4. I recently bought T6, C5 and S5. I am yet to setup the surrounds and was thinking of sticking with 5.1 (yet to buy woofer). I have x4000 and was just wondering if I should go ahead and buy B4 since the series is being discontinued. They are available for $179 a pair on Crutchfield. Was wondering if they are decent for the side surround or rear surround or may be I can get something besides PSB. Wonder how good are they for the 7.1 setup.
I have the T6, C5 and B5s for my 5.1 and they sound great. I also have a set of B4s and a C4 which I will be using for a 3.1 setup in another room. The B4s are not set up right now, but I did try them out in my regular system and I think they would make an excellent surround speaker.
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Hi , just bought a pair of PSB Image B5 Cherry to replace my Athena S2 and im kinda disapointed ! I own a pair of PSB image T4 since 5years now and i love them ! But the B5 just seems to have not bass and no highs ... Compared to the Athena S2 ... Powered by a HK3270 for a 2.0 setup . Do they need some kind of break in period or something ? Maybe they are underpowered ?

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Hey guys, just entered the Psb family with the purchase of a pair of t2's. Looking into some surrounds and want to keep in the imagine line. I'd like some feedback of imagine minis vs. b's vs. surround s. My best deal is with the surround s. Thanks for the input.
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Any Imagine X2T owners or dealers in here? I'm looking to find out the width and depth of the actual housing, NOT including the protruding feet. I suspect the official specs and product materials are including feet in their dimensions, which look like they could be adding about an inch to the recorded 9" width.
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Hi , just bought a pair of PSB Image B5 Cherry to replace my Athena S2 and im kinda disapointed ! I own a pair of PSB image T4 since 5years now and i love them ! But the B5 just seems to have not bass and no highs ... Compared to the Athena S2 ... Powered by a HK3270 for a 2.0 setup . Do they need some kind of break in period or something ? Maybe they are underpowered ?

Thx
I bought some too and am somewhat disappointed. I only paid $212 for them so I thought I'd take that chance to hear some psb's. I have klipsch in my main setup and I planned on using these at the computer. I'm using a Native Instruments audio interface and an adcom amp to power them(60w). I also moved them on top of the Klipschs and powered them with my crown xls. They seem like a sideways move from the Klipsch. They sound different but not exactly "better". One thing I noticed is they really bring out the voices in music, not really the "music" if that makes sense. The cymbals and snare almost fell into the background and they sound a little flat/lifeless. I think x'd over at 80hz, the bass was smoother than the Klipsch above xover because my sub magically sounded better. The Klispch had noticeably larger soundstage. But I didn't find much detail or imaging improvements. I don't like them much nearfield at the computer. The rear port is causing trouble, I thought there would be enough space but the bass is bloated and I'm sure that can't be right. There's probably at least 6" of space behind them. On the flip side, my wife likes them better than the Klipschs and they look fantastic!! I'll be moving them to one of my kids rooms when we move next summer. I'll be acquiring a few more bookshelves over the next year to figure out which I'd like to replace the Klipschs.
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Hey guys, just entered the Psb family with the purchase of a pair of t2's. Looking into some surrounds and want to keep in the imagine line. I'd like some feedback of imagine minis vs. b's vs. surround s. My best deal is with the surround s. Thanks for the input.
Chose the minis as surrounds with my T2s.


I contacted PSB about this, because the B's would be a very tight fit. They recommended I go with the minis, and I am happy with the result.

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Are you still having problems with the psb-B5 I bought the B-6's and I love them.
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Chose the minis as surrounds with my T2s.


I contacted PSB about this, because the B's would be a very tight fit. They recommended I go with the minis, and I am happy with the result.
Thanks for your response. I have a fairly large room, 30'x15' with vaulted ceilings, didn't know if the minis as surrounds would fill the room.
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