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Hi , just bought a pair of PSB Image B5 Cherry to replace my Athena S2 and im kinda disapointed ! I own a pair of PSB image T4 since 5years now and i love them ! But the B5 just seems to have not bass and no highs ... Compared to the Athena S2 ... Powered by a HK3270 for a 2.0 setup . Do they need some kind of break in period or something ? Maybe they are underpowered ?

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Hey guys, just entered the Psb family with the purchase of a pair of t2's. Looking into some surrounds and want to keep in the imagine line. I'd like some feedback of imagine minis vs. b's vs. surround s. My best deal is with the surround s. Thanks for the input.
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Any Imagine X2T owners or dealers in here? I'm looking to find out the width and depth of the actual housing, NOT including the protruding feet. I suspect the official specs and product materials are including feet in their dimensions, which look like they could be adding about an inch to the recorded 9" width.
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Hi , just bought a pair of PSB Image B5 Cherry to replace my Athena S2 and im kinda disapointed ! I own a pair of PSB image T4 since 5years now and i love them ! But the B5 just seems to have not bass and no highs ... Compared to the Athena S2 ... Powered by a HK3270 for a 2.0 setup . Do they need some kind of break in period or something ? Maybe they are underpowered ?

Thx
I bought some too and am somewhat disappointed. I only paid $212 for them so I thought I'd take that chance to hear some psb's. I have klipsch in my main setup and I planned on using these at the computer. I'm using a Native Instruments audio interface and an adcom amp to power them(60w). I also moved them on top of the Klipschs and powered them with my crown xls. They seem like a sideways move from the Klipsch. They sound different but not exactly "better". One thing I noticed is they really bring out the voices in music, not really the "music" if that makes sense. The cymbals and snare almost fell into the background and they sound a little flat/lifeless. I think x'd over at 80hz, the bass was smoother than the Klipsch above xover because my sub magically sounded better. The Klispch had noticeably larger soundstage. But I didn't find much detail or imaging improvements. I don't like them much nearfield at the computer. The rear port is causing trouble, I thought there would be enough space but the bass is bloated and I'm sure that can't be right. There's probably at least 6" of space behind them. On the flip side, my wife likes them better than the Klipschs and they look fantastic!! I'll be moving them to one of my kids rooms when we move next summer. I'll be acquiring a few more bookshelves over the next year to figure out which I'd like to replace the Klipschs.
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Hey guys, just entered the Psb family with the purchase of a pair of t2's. Looking into some surrounds and want to keep in the imagine line. I'd like some feedback of imagine minis vs. b's vs. surround s. My best deal is with the surround s. Thanks for the input.
Chose the minis as surrounds with my T2s.


I contacted PSB about this, because the B's would be a very tight fit. They recommended I go with the minis, and I am happy with the result.

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Are you still having problems with the psb-B5 I bought the B-6's and I love them.
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Chose the minis as surrounds with my T2s.


I contacted PSB about this, because the B's would be a very tight fit. They recommended I go with the minis, and I am happy with the result.
Thanks for your response. I have a fairly large room, 30'x15' with vaulted ceilings, didn't know if the minis as surrounds would fill the room.
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My room is smaller, about 20x15 with 7.5 foot ceilings. My T2s are 12' from the listening position, and the minis are only 6' away. I am using my receiver, an Anthem MRX-300 as the pre-amp, and I have a 200 wpc Rotel power amp.


Anthem Room Correction (ARC) is crossing over the T2's and the C at 60Hz, and the minis at 100Hz. No correction was needed to "level match" the minis to the T2's.


Given the closer distance, the higher crossover frequency, and the fact that there is usually not a lot of content in the Surround channel anyway, you may want to give the minis a shot. Perhaps your dealer will let you audition the minis for a few days, and take them back and apply the price to the B's if they don't work for you.

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I feel like that was a good choice to go with the minis as the surround speakerswhat type of receiver do you have for your home theater.
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I feel like that was a good choice to go with the minis as the surround speakerswhat type of receiver do you have for your home theater.
I'm don't think the dealer have the minis in stock and I might try to pick up the surrounds used. There is a good price online for the surround s but I am not familiar with that type of speaker, always used bookshelves. I have a Denon 4520 and sometimes listen to 5.1 instead of stereo. I was able to demo the t2s at the same time I had the Verus Grand Towers and as you can tell the Psb's were better for me.
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I'm don't think the dealer have the minis in stock and I might try to pick up the surrounds used. There is a good price online for the surround s but I am not familiar with that type of speaker, always used bookshelves. I have a Denon 4520 and sometimes listen to 5.1 instead of stereo. I was able to demo the t2s at the same time I had the Verus Grand Towers and as you can tell the Psb's were better for me.
I have PSB's all around in a 11.1 setup (see the My Setup link in my sig). I also have the 4520, and listen to a lot of music in 5.1 PLII Music mode. IMO, you will be much better off with a direct-radiating speaker, rather than the Imagine S. I have both the Imagine B's and the Imagine Mini's in my setup, and can highly recommend either.
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the Denon 4520 is a nice receiver I was actually looking at it last night because it's on sale at Amazon for $1400 what do you think about Onkyo receivers when it comes to the speaker configuration I couldn't use towers in my listening area because of the
configuration of the living room so I went with PSB B6 bookshelves Front and rear of the living room and PSB C5 Center and I'm extremely happy with that setup.

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I have PSB's all around in a 11.1 setup (see the My Setup link in my sig). I also have the 4520, and listen to a lot of music in 5.1 PLII Music mode. IMO, you will be much better off with a direct-radiating speaker, rather than the Imagine S. I have both the Imagine B's and the Imagine Mini's in my setup, and can highly recommend either.
Thanks, I appreciate the input. I was kind of leaning that way. I'll probably try to find some b's due to the size of my room and height of celings. $1400 is a heck of a price, the Denon is great.
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I have PSB's all around in a 11.1 setup (see the My Setup link in my sig). I also have the 4520, and listen to a lot of music in 5.1 PLII Music mode. IMO, you will be much better off with a direct-radiating speaker, rather than the Imagine S. I have both the Imagine B's and the Imagine Mini's in my setup, and can highly recommend either.
I have a pair of Imagine S' in a 7 channel setup. The Imagine S is a "tri-mode surround" speaker. It can be wired Dipole, Bipole or as 2 separate channels in a direct radiator configuration, which is what I did. I have them mounted close to the ceiling and about 3' from the back wall. I think the Minis can reach a little lower on the FResp, but I wouldn't say they sound any different. I would honestly rate them almost exactly the same in SQ. The only reason I would pick one over the other would be because of odd room dimensions. The Minis would give you more configuration choices and better control. My back wall and side walls are square and symmetrically identical, so the Imagine S' work fine. The only advantage is 2 extra channels at almost twice the price. It would be "a wash" between the 2 speaker choices in my living room. Both great speakers! Enjoy your system
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this questions a little bit out of my reach I'm looking for a new home theater receiver but I keep hearing about external amplifiers and monoblocks one brand is Emotiva instead of spending a fortune on a receiver can I buy a cheaper one and by a external amplifier to run my home theater speakers does hey wire run from the receiver to the external amplifier not sure how that works if anyone can help with this I appreciate it I just have some questions about all that Thanks
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this questions a little bit out of my reach I'm looking for a new home theater receiver but I keep hearing about external amplifiers and monoblocks one brand is Emotiva instead of spending a fortune on a receiver can I buy a cheaper one and by a external amplifier to run my home theater speakers does hey wire run from the receiver to the external amplifier not sure how that works if anyone can help with this I appreciate it I just have some questions about all that Thanks
Yes. In case you'be never done it, it works like this...
The receiver has to have preamplifier outputs. Better know as preouts. If they are in use, the processed signal will be sent outboard by way of a cable (rca or xlr) to an external amplifier before the the signal makes it to the receiver's internal amp. Most people say it makes no difference in sound quality. If you like lots of volume, and I do, I think it's worth it. Accessories4 less had a Yamaha rxa 810 for $399 or a Marantz 5008 for $499 if you want audessey.

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Hi

I am a newbie and trying to get some help with my setup. I just setup my T6 and C5 with my Denon X4000. I mostly use the setup for movie wand shortly will install my S5 (already bought). I plan to keep it to 5.1 or max 7.1. Room size is 1500 cu ft. My questions are the following

1. I notice that I have to increase the volume to around 75 for the loudness that I like. Is that normal? I have run Audyssey and stored the settings

2. Somehow I am not getting too excited with the tower's performance. Something make me feel that I am not extracting too much out of them ( I may be wrong). Do I need an external amp? If yes then do I need a one that has more than 150w per channel considering AVR already puts 125w.



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Hi

I am a newbie and trying to get some help with my setup. I just setup my T6 and C5 with my Denon X4000. I mostly use the setup for movie wand shortly will install my S5 (already bought). I plan to keep it to 5.1 or max 7.1. Room size is 1500 cu ft. My questions are the following

1. I notice that I have to increase the volume to around 75 for the loudness that I like. Is that normal? I have run Audyssey and stored the settings

2. Somehow I am not getting too excited with the tower's performance. Something make me feel that I am not extracting too much out of them ( I may be wrong). Do I need an external amp? If yes then do I need a one that has more than 150w per channel considering AVR already puts 125w.



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An amp would only make what you hear from the speakers louder. Shouldn't change how they sound very much. Especially with 125w. It would take a lot more power to make a difference unless your talking about 5/7 channel. You might want to get with the audessey crowd. You hear of people complaining it "sucks the life" out of speakers when something goes awry. I know nothing about audessey so I can't help you there.

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People buy separates for a reason. Separate amps add to the sound your speakers produce. Some will notice it, others not.

There is a reason for pre outs and amps.

If you are fortunate enough not to hear a difference, you'll save a ton of cash and frustration in matching components.
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People buy separates for a reason. Separate amps add to the sound your speakers produce. Some will notice it, others not.

There is a reason for pre outs and amps.

If you are fortunate enough not to hear a difference, you'll save a ton of cash and frustration in matching components.
I always run at least a 2 channel amp. I love adcoms. Had a aragon until it broke. I have a crown xls now. I swear by separate amps. There is the anti-watt crowd, but I'm not one of them. You know the story, double the power only nets +3db, 50w is all you ever need. To me, an amp "wakes" the speakers up. Even if there isn't much difference in sound, it's peace of mind knowing the speakers are driven properly and you can turn them up to your hearts desire. I like to have distortion lights as well. See....adcom, crown.

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