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Talking New owner and satisfied :)

I just got my PSB T6 tower, paired with Marantz SR5008 amd I'm happy with the sound!

Connected devices are Mac mini for music and Samsung DVD player for movies. Now I can't wait to buy center, sub, and surround for a complete HT setup (blue ray player last). But with this stereo setup, a BIG improvement from my Bose Companion 3 (for obvious reasons hehe).
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I just got my PSB T6 tower, paired with Marantz SR5008 amd I'm happy with the sound!

Connected devices are Mac mini for music and Samsung DVD player for movies. Now I can't wait to buy center, sub, and surround for a complete HT setup (blue ray player last). But with this stereo setup, a BIG improvement from my Bose Companion 3 (for obvious reasons hehe).
Try to get the rest of the PSB set as that would be an awesome matched setup.

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From Parttimeaudiophile.com , this quote about the Symphony line.


Playback in this demo was from a pair of Imagine T2 loudspeakers ($3,849.98/pair). I should note that the new flagship loudspeakers, the T3, will see a debut this month at RMAF 2014. The T3 will be replacing one of my all-time favorite speakers, the Synchrony One.
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Try to get the rest of the PSB set as that would be an awesome matched setup.
Yup, i will, but one by one.
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Try to get the rest of the PSB set as that would be an awesome matched setup.
I agree with everything but the sub. Subs from Rythmik, SVS, HSU, and Outlaw will out perform subs from PSB at much less cost. I have a PSB Subsonic 5 and I replaced it with Rythmik LV-12R and the difference in bass articulation alone is staggeringly in favor of the Rythmik. I have two home theater setups, the main based on PSB Image series the secondary system based on the old Alpha series. Love both of them. However, the PSB sub is no match for the Rythmik.
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From Parttimeaudiophile.com , this quote about the Symphony line.


Playback in this demo was from a pair of Imagine T2 loudspeakers ($3,849.98/pair). I should note that the new flagship loudspeakers, the T3, will see a debut this month at RMAF 2014. The T3 will be replacing one of my all-time favorite speakers, the Synchrony One.
The elephant in the room, for some of us - will those T3 speakers have an add-on Atmos module which would fit them as "caps"? Or be dual-firing (top and forward), along the lines of Pioneer's Andrew Jones speakers? I know PSB is a relatively conservative company when it comes to change, but as Atmos starts to roll out in the consumer HT world, it's an obvious question to raise. Even if I just bought my T2 mains this year and am very happy with them so far .

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NEW imagine T3 and C3 just added to psb website... looks to be very much a hybrid of the imagine T2 and sync tower, just with 7 1/4" bass drivers!

lov'n the 3 way centre channel...

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NEW imagine T3 and C3 just added to psb website... looks to be very much a hybrid of the imagine T2 and sync tower, just with 7 1/4" bass drivers!

lov'n the 3 way centre channel...

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Thanks for the news. Those T3 towers look very nice, but they're physically larger than I would prefer - they're bigger than my Sync Ones by a good amount. Looks like they're nearly full-range and perhaps an easier load than the Sync Ones.

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Thanks for the news. Those T3 towers look very nice, but they're physically larger than I would prefer - they're bigger than my Sync Ones by a good amount. Looks like they're nearly full-range and perhaps an easier load than the Sync Ones.

http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/...agine-T3-Tower
They can also be bi- or tri-amp'ed. But more than that, you supposedly can optionally use the bottom woofer as a kind of bass trap, by disconnecting it and shorting it with a "woofer shorting bar". That certainly sounds like a unique feature....

I doubt I'd be interested, but I wonder what these beasts (and the new C3) will cost, or if the T3 will ultimately make the T2 towers obsolete, with the X1T and X2T also in the Imagine line. I called Saturday Audio and other than confirming they'll carry them, they know about as much as us right now about price.

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They've been officially launched at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest
$USD1999 for the C3 and $USD7498 for a pair of T3's.

you can google imagine T3 october 2014 for press release

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Wow, $7498 for a pair of the T3's? I was guessing they'd be around $6k. They sure appear to be a really nice speaker, but that's getting pricey by PSB standards.

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That is pretty close to the price for the Synchrony One's, which these are supposed to replace.
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That is pretty close to the price for the Synchrony One's, which these are supposed to replace.
The Sync Ones started out at $4500/pair, then moved to $5000/pair, then finally $5500/pair before the closeout at around $4200/pair. But even when the MSRP was $5500/pair, one could still get them under $5k/pair.

So I see these as quite a bit more.

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Heard the Imagine T3's today. Amazing speakers. In a not at all scientific heads up against the Revel F208's I listened too earlier the T3's are worth the price difference. I was very, very impressed.
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Heard the Imagine T3's today. Amazing speakers. In a not at all scientific heads up against the Revel F208's I listened too earlier the T3's are worth the price difference. I was very, very impressed.
Where did you hear the Imagine T3's at? Have they already been released?

I wonder how would the Ascend Acoustics w/ Raal tweeter compare to the T3's...granted the super huge price difference.
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Where did you hear the Imagine T3's at? Have they already been released?

I wonder how would the Ascend Acoustics w/ Raal tweeter compare to the T3's...granted the super huge price difference.
They were at the RMAF show in Denver. IIRC they are going to be released next month along with the C3 center.

In regards to the Ascend, different ball game. RAAL's have there own sound, and if you like them, not much this side of electrostatics compare. That said, based off of my ever faulty and completely inaccurate audio memory, I liked the mids better on the T3's, and the bass isn't in the same ball park. Same for aesthetics. This isn't a dis against Dave or Ascend, but we are talking about two extremely different price ranges. For what it is worth, I quite liked the Ascend towers I heard, but I preferred the dome tweeter (I'm not much of a ribbon or electrostatic guy, just not my cup of tea).

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They were at the RMAF show in Denver. IIRC they are going to be released next month along with the C3 center.

In regards to the Ascend, different ball game. RAAL's have there own sound, and if you like them, not much this side of electrostatics compare. That said, based off of my ever faulty and completely inaccurate audio memory, I liked the mids better on the T3's, and the bass isn't in the same ball park. Same for aesthetics. This isn't a dis against Dave or Ascend, but we are talking about two extremely different price ranges. For what it is worth, I quite liked the Ascend towers I heard, but I preferred the dome tweeter (I'm not much of a ribbon or electrostatic guy, just not my cup of tea).
Dang...Denver...

No doubt T3 will have better aesthetics (such sexy looking beasts) than Ascend Towers, but we're paying a HUGE premium for that higher quality build. With the T3 MSRP price...we can buy 3 pair of Ascend Acoustic Towers

Interesting, have you heard the Ascend Towers dome tweeter? Based on what you said I would imagine you like those more than the ones with the RAAL's.
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Dang...Denver...

No doubt T3 will have better aesthetics (such sexy looking beasts) than Ascend Towers, but we're paying a HUGE premium for that higher quality build. With the T3 MSRP price...we can buy 3 pair of Ascend Acoustic Towers

Interesting, have you heard the Ascend Towers dome tweeter? Based on what you said I would imagine you like those more than the ones with the RAAL's.
Consider for a moment that the T3's might be three times better than the Ascend towers... The difference may not be limited to build quality.
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Hi all,

I have a question for everyone, needing some advice. I currently have a pair of Synchrony Two towers, and was thinking of expanding to a 5.1 system. What are folks opinions on using the Imagine XB's as the rear channels and the Imagine XC as the center channel?

I am looking to keep the cost of moving to 5.1 down as much as possible while still maintaining good performance.

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Hi all,

I have a question for everyone, needing some advice. I currently have a pair of Synchrony Two towers, and was thinking of expanding to a 5.1 system. What are folks opinions on using the Imagine XB's as the rear channels and the Imagine XC as the center channel?

I am looking to keep the cost of moving to 5.1 down as much as possible while still maintaining good performance.

Thanks!
Personally, I would look around to see if you could pick up a Synchrony 2 center. Otherwise, the PSB speaker line uses the same tweeters across many of the models, so you really can't go wrong with the Imagine XB's, IMO. I have Imagine B's as surrounds with my Synchrony One's, and they match quite nicely.
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I have a question for everyone, needing some advice. I currently have a pair of Synchrony Two towers, and was thinking of expanding to a 5.1 system. What are folks opinions on using the Imagine XB's as the rear channels and the Imagine XC as the center channel?

I am looking to keep the cost of moving to 5.1 down as much as possible while still maintaining good performance.

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Consider for a moment that the T3's might be three times better than the Ascend towers... The difference may not be limited to build quality.
I seriously doubt that. OK, given that saying things like "three times better" is a completely subjective thing to say, I would guess they new T3s beat the Ascend towers easily in low bass, and may slightly better them elsewhere, but I'd never say they're three times better.

I own the Sierra Towers (nrt) and PSB Sync Ones. The Sync Ones win below about 50Hz. Above that, I'd just about call it a draw.

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Consider for a moment that the T3's might be three times better than the Ascend towers... The difference may not be limited to build quality.
That is something that never crossed my mind. Just because MSRP is 3 times as much doesn't mean SQ is 3 times as good. SQ, as everyone know, is purely Subjective. Lets say for example...you take a noobie to Best Buy and he/she sees these awesome BOSE Lifestyle 135 System (for $2600, Bam!)...he/she thinks to themselves that Woww..it costs $2600...must be more than 3 times better than them B&W 685! Funny thing is...maybe they would even believe it is 3-4 times better than B&W 685, even after listening to both speakers. Would you take them seriously?

I can hate PSB sound but love Klipsch sound, yet you can be totally opposite. I would be like...why the heck should I pay $7300+ for a pair of T3 when I can get a pair of Klipsch RF-82II for $900, and they have bigger woofers?

I know PSB is one of the best high end speaker manufacturers out there but I would never go as far to say they sound 3 times better than Ascend Acoustics Towers. What does 3 times better even mean? I can make a blind judgement call and say that they are better than Ascend Towers (given their market prices). I would say this however...they are very sexy looking relative to the Ascends (ascends are still sexy, however!).

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That is something that never crossed my mind. Just because MSRP is 3 times as much doesn't mean SQ is 3 times as good. SQ, as everyone know, is purely Subjective. Lets say for example...you take a noobie to Best Buy and he/she sees these awesome BOSE Lifestyle 135 System (for $2600, Bam!)...he/she thinks to themselves that Woww..it costs $2600...must be more than 3 times better than them B&W 685! Funny thing is...maybe they would even believe it is 3-4 times better than B&W 685, even after listening to both speakers. Would you take them seriously?

I can hate PSB sound but love Klipsch sound, yet you can be totally opposite. I would be like...why the heck should I pay $7300+ for a pair of T3 when I can get a pair of Klipsch RF-82II for $900, and they have bigger woofers?

I know PSB is one of the best high end speaker manufacturers out there but I would never go as far to say they sound 3 times better than Ascend Acoustics Towers. What does 3 times better even mean? I can make a blind judgement call and say that they are better than Ascend Towers (given their market prices). I would say this however...they are very sexy looking relative to the Ascends (ascends are still sexy, however!).
There is noting you say that I would disagree with. Perhaps people are taking my post more literally than I intended. There are many factors that go into a speaker's quality, and it would certainly be difficult to quantify differences. My point was that there may be subtleties in the build quality, component quality, design, etc. that would justify the Synchrony speakers as costing three times as much. All these things add up to subjective sound quality, and only the buyer can justify price differences.
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There is noting you say that I would disagree with. Perhaps people are taking my post more literally than I intended. There are many factors that go into a speaker's quality, and it would certainly be difficult to quantify differences. My point was that there may be subtleties in the build quality, component quality, design, etc. that would justify the Synchrony speakers as costing three times as much. All these things add up to subjective sound quality, and only the buyer can justify price differences.
I wonder if it's because it's the latest PSB product, although these haven't been released yet, so there could be a huge interests/demand at first. Maybe the prices will drop a good amount sometime next year? I would also think because PSB doesn't sell directly so they can't give the lowest possible prices to their customer; there is where Ascend has a big advantage in terms of pricing for their customers. I wonder what Ascend Towers would cost if they were sold in an electronics store like Best Buy... Regardless, these should be an upgrade or a step up to the Ascend Towers...I can't wait for the reviews.

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I am hoping I can get some advice here regarding a possible switch to PSB speakers.

- I currently have Polk TSi500 Front speakers and a Polk center speaker CS20 in a home theater configuration with a Polk TSi100 used for rear surrounds.
- I have a HSU VTF-2 MK4 subwoofer.
- The room size is large, it's a great room that continues into the kitchen. 14x26 ft with 10 foot ceilings = 3640 cubic feet
- The speakers are currently run from a Yamaha VTX-675. The fronts are bi-wired, for whatever that's worth
- Sources are ALAC files (converted from FLAC) streamed through an Apple TV.
- I probably listen to 40% music, 60% TV and movies on this system.
- Listening volume is about 60-70db about 12 feet away from the speakers.

I'm wondering if I should get Imagine XB on stands or are X1T's needed to fill the room?
-Imagine XC would be the center channel replacement.

The HSU subwoofer is currently crossed over at 80Hz, so I'm assuming the bass won't be an issue.
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There is noting you say that I would disagree with. Perhaps people are taking my post more literally than I intended. There are many factors that go into a speaker's quality, and it would certainly be difficult to quantify differences. My point was that there may be subtleties in the build quality, component quality, design, etc. that would justify the Synchrony speakers as costing three times as much. All these things add up to subjective sound quality, and only the buyer can justify price differences.
Guilty as charged there. You make good points. The Ascend tower build quality is very nice, but the PSB Synchrony series (and likely the Imagine T3) are more than just very nice - they're outstanding. The build cost of the PSB cabinets is probably quite a bit higher than the Ascend cabinets. The PSB drivers, other than the RAAL tweeter from Ascend, probably cost more too (speculating there). But as we all know, those things may add up to small differences in sound, but it's all about diminishing returns. I think PSB makes excellent speakers for the money; I think Ascend makes outstanding speakers for the money.

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